George G

Yes, all the Plato 45s had been available as new unplayed copies since the late 1980s, if not earlier. Thats when I got the Outcasts and a couple others. I think I got the KM about 10 years ago. The last stock held by the label owner was sold last year. The previous copies were either chunks of the stock or stock from distributors. There are probably 300+ copies of the Outcasts 45 in collections.

There is a Wikipedia entry on King records. They never moved to Chicago. The business was sold and moved to Nashville after Syd Nathans death. After the record business was sold, the recording studio and pressing plant were still used in Cincinnati, up to 1970-ish. They had an office in Chicago, probably on Record Row, so yes, some of their papers, etc would have a Chicago address. I presume the Chicago office was closed around the time of the sale.

Uhhh, check out a comp and movie called Wheedles Groove. Seattle is also the home town of Quincy Jones and had a very active jazz and R&B scene in the 1950s into the 1960s.

The seller acquired a quantity (40ish?) of original Kickin Mustangs 45s (and copies of the Outcasts on the same label) from the label owner last year. The seller had been selling true originals, I don't know if the recent sales are original but there are some around. The 45 has never been that hard to find, copies of those records have turned up here in Washington State.

Yes, that's right, thanks for telling me. I didn't read the part in the auction description about the "Moderized" side. The copies found are not Soussan boots though. The load of 45s included test pressings of the Trips as well as test pressings from other 45s of the same (mid 1960s) vintage all done through the RCA Hollywood plant. IMO the copies found are 1960s vintage but probably pressed shortly after the first pressing that JM sold. The mastering on the two sides is much different in volume.

18 or so copies of the Trips 45 were found in a load of records that belonged to a long deceased long time record hoarder who moved from Los Angeles to Springfield, OR. The conditions ranged from "M-" (the person who bought the collection grade, I didn't see the copy) to good playing VG. I got one of the VG ones for $300.

Right, Dearborn seems like they were in business to make records for the jukebox market, they released a lot of polka and pop records that were obviously not intended for radio play, but occasionally would release a record that was targeted at the 'teen' market.

yeah, thats right there is some weird Mirwood boot 45....the record I mention is legit though, it's 'jangle garage' and a pretty good one at that.

Thanks Nev. That would be Paul Ackley from RAFA club serious shades of Soul... a genuine confirmed copy . Counting the eBay copy a couple of yr back, 3 plus a acetate I reckon George.

There are a few rock records on Loma. I think they are all CA/west coast groups. I don't remember any country or pop records on Loma.

Great reply, thanks! Someone who was involved with the Tammy label from Youngstown, OH (Edsels, Iron Knowledge, etc) claimed that Gordy asked them to use the Tammy name but they told him (them) no. Any corroboration (or dispute) about that? The Tammy label was incorporated in 1958.

One of the earliest Tamla releases is by Nick and the Jaguars, a killer rock instro. I wonder how that came to happen.

No, there is a solid garage 45 by the Bees (who also had a different 45 on Mira) and at least one folky thing. I suspect when Jackie Lee's "the Duck" became a hit (and it was a pretty big hit) the paths were laid to distribution to soul operators so they used that network to promote other soul releases.

How many copies of Junior McCants are known? 2 or 3? I saw one in a playlist posted here, I assume its the original, another one owned by the buyer of the copy on popsike, so that's at least two.

Stax made a big and completely failed attempt to become a full range record label in the early 70s. Most famously for Big Star and the Ardent label. They also put out records by the British band Skin Alley. I remember Lena Zavaroni, seeing her perform on US TV shows back then, Stax invested a lot of marketing money behind her. The first original Stax releases (as Satellite) were rockabilly and country.

I know this is a five year old post, but why are Musicor and Liberty records mentioned? They are not 'soul' labels. The Chipmunks helped put Liberty on the map, they were one of the labels biggest money makers.

Wanted - good playing VG or better shape with labels that are presentable Ricky Hodges - Love in its making (Debrossard) Lil Lavair and Fabulous Jades - I'll be so happy Soul Excitement - Stay together Send PM or email buckeyebeat@hotmail.com thanks!

It was pressed by RI which was from Baltimore, MD. Based on the number and record info I'd say it was from 1969. RI pressings were pretty regional, a lot from DC, MD, VA, PA, a few from OH

Still wanted!

I dunno - what is the record on Columbia? if it was them, it would be after the BRC 45. See above for a little more info.

regarding the Promises, they go back to the girl groups of the early 1960s, they were originally called the Three Blond Mice. They had a 45 on United Artists and also did background vocals on a few Cleveland records. I don't know much about their career as the Promises, I also heard an LP was recorded but I dunno if it was released. I've known about the Three Blond Mice for years but this piece of the story is pretty new to me. I just checked the internet for Three Blond Mice, the only useful link is to my website...oh well. Also checked on youtube...no luck either. Time to call in my CLE team.

Thanks for the replies everyone

All, I was looking into the history of the Promises, a white girl group from Cleveland who recorded this song (as 'another girl') for Brunswick/BRC. I presume the Chi-Lites version ('another man') was first.....are there other versions?

Here's a track listing for the LP confirming a recording of the song is on there. https://collectorsfrenzy.com/details/140471085596/Soul_Inc_Live_At_The_Cellar_LP__Emblem_Charlotte_NC

The Soul Incorporated band who does this song were NOT from Louisville, the Louisville group did not record the live LP in question either. According to the LP cover the Cellar seems have been in Charlotte, NC The LP uses the Emblem logo that's shown on the Charms Unlimited.