https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HOLLY-ST-JAMES-THATS-NOT-LOVE-NORTHERN-SOUL-Acetate_W0QQitemZ320491002941QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Records?hash=item4a9ec09c3d

Must be the seller and a couple of mates bidding it up, no one in their right mind would pay that for a poor knocked up acetate. UK Ebay, don't you just love it.

https://cgi.ebay.co.u...=item4a9ec09c3d

Must be the seller and a couple of mates bidding it up, no one in their right mind would pay that for a poor knocked up acetate. UK Ebay, don't you just love it.

wasnt even aware it got a uk abc release as per eddie regan/willie hutch/august & deneen/sapphires etc

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HOLLY-ST-JAMES-THATS-NOT-LOVE-NORTHERN-SOUL-Acetate_W0QQitemZ320491002941QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Records?hash=item4a9ec09c3d

Must be the seller and a couple of mates bidding it up, no one in their right mind would pay that for a poor knocked up acetate. UK Ebay, don't you just love it.

I was just about to send the guy this message:

It's just a one sided acetate someone had cut to order, they've stuck a label off another ABC release on it, it never got a UK release anyway and it wasn't even discovered until 1977! It's also got nothing to do with Motown, why would it?

It's worth less than a fiver, how you've managed to get a bid of £75 on it is just beyond belief

but I didn't send it cos I'm not in the mood for an argument this morning, my gout hurts too much LOL

if anyone else wants to send it, go ahead!

youve just answered my query pete

https://cgi.ebay.co.u...=item4a9ec09c3d

Must be the seller and a couple of mates bidding it up, no one in their right mind would pay that for a poor knocked up acetate. UK Ebay, don't you just love it.

blimey dave,perhaps i'll get a couple done next time im over the pond,do you think i'll get away with it? Not bloody likely!

if he's had it for 20 yrs, where did he get it from? (his quote: "it seems certain it came from the US?) or words to that effect, but does not sound convincing.

P

What came out on 4143?

Edited February 22, 201015 yr by paup-ine

I was just about to send the guy this message:

It's just a one sided acetate someone had cut to order, they've stuck a label off another ABC release on it, it never got a UK release anyway and it wasn't even discovered until 1977! It's also got nothing to do with Motown, why would it?

It's worth less than a fiver, how you've managed to get a bid of £75 on it is just beyond belief

but I didn't send it cos I'm not in the mood for an argument this morning, my gout hurts too much LOL

if anyone else wants to send it, go ahead!

The label he has used must be a Four Tops or Lawrence Payton release as it is credited to Lawrence Payton - Producer. But I can't find out which record was ABC 4143

Its after the Crusaders ABC 4141 thats '71

Four Tops - Catfish1976|Vinyl|ABC Records|ABC4143Four Tops Catfish ABC Records ABC 4143 Vinyl 7" Single 45 RPM UK 1976 Funk / Soul Disco Lawrencewww.discogs.com/Four-Tops-Catfish/release/2061616

could this be it ???????????????

But I can't find out which record was ABC 4143

Four Tops - Catfish / Look At My Baby - ABC 4143 (released 1976)

Its after the Crusaders ABC 4141 thats '71

No it was recorded in 71 but reissued in 76 on that label Pauline.

No it was recorded in 71 but reissued in 76 on that label Pauline.

doh

I must do my homework, I must do my homework, I must do my homework..!"

Edited February 22, 201015 yr by paup-ine

Bet no chuff would give me £7.50p for me real catfish anybody !

dave,

its obvious some people aren't going to put stuff on a REAL northernsoul auction sites because they will be laughed out of the place and, honestly aren't ebay and popsike easy targets for mugging people where soul music is concerned?...its hit and miss isnt it?

rob.h

I see the guy has now added some comments to cover his ass. He knows full well what he's doing.

On 22-Feb-10 at 13:18:58 GMT, seller added the following information:

I would like to make it clear that I am not claiming that this is a Motown Disc. I just don't know. This is just one possibility. As I have already suggested it could have been labeled by a private collector/DJ , It has also been suggested that it may have been cut by a DJ who didn't have a copy.

On 22-Feb-10 at 15:06:43 GMT, seller added the following information:

I have been told now that being drilled does not necessarily mean that it was an export and that this could well have been cut in the UK for a DJ.

I am no expert so any info is welcome. I've always thought it was an interesting record and would hate to let it go for a couple of quid, then find out it is something special. If you buy this item it is because you find it interesting or think it might be wotrh something, do some research, I am not intending to mislead in any way.

So I have sent this question to him. I know we all make mistakes, but this is what makes a mockery of the UK soul scene overseas.

"It's no good saying buyer beware, if you sell this at this price you are mugging the buyer. This is a UK cut acetate, with a home made, photo copied and tipex label. If any record company had been involved, this would have a printed label, not photo copied."

Edited February 23, 201015 yr by Dave Thorley

I see the guy has now added some comments to cover his ass. He knows full well what he's doing.

On 22-Feb-10 at 13:18:58 GMT, seller added the following information:

I would like to make it clear that I am not claiming that this is a Motown Disc. I just don't know. This is just one possibility. As I have already suggested it could have been labeled by a private collector/DJ , It has also been suggested that it may have been cut by a DJ who didn't have a copy.

On 22-Feb-10 at 15:06:43 GMT, seller added the following information:

I have been told now that being drilled does not necessarily mean that it was an export and that this could well have been cut in the UK for a DJ.

I am no expert so any info is welcome. I've always thought it was an interesting record and would hate to let it go for a couple of quid, then find out it is something special. If you buy this item it is because you find it interesting or think it might be wotrh something, do some research, I am not intending to mislead in any way.

So I have sent this question to him. I know we all make mistakes, but this is what makes a mockery of the UK soul scene overseas.

"It's no good saying buyer beware, if you sell this at this price you are mugging the buyer. This is a UK cut acetate, with a home made, photo copied and tipex label. If any record company had been involved, this would have a printed label, not photo copied."

Well done Dave.

Ebay not taking any notice of reports sent to them about this item (by me), as par for the course.

seller has added in bold print,please stop e mailing me the bidder has been informed of all developments and the matter is being dealt with ,thanks for all the input. feckin con man