... I forgot!

Hey Everybody. Not long ago I´ve seen a post in here where someone told about a alternative to popsike, but I cannot remember.

This sucks...https://www.popsike.com/classes/access_user/login.php

So would be good to have an alternative.

Thanks for your help.

Spinne

You're saying Popsike sucks?

You're saying Popsike sucks?

Love Popsike....................

... I forgot!

Hey Everybody. Not long ago I´ve seen a post in here where someone told about a alternative to popsike, but I cannot remember.

This sucks...https://www.popsike.com/classes/access_user/login.php

So would be good to have an alternative.

Thanks for your help.

Spinne

hi, i think the alternative is called collectors frenzy though i dont think its as exhustive as popsike,hope that helps!

Love Popsike....................

Yeah well I thought to say it sucked was a bit harsh..

hi, i think the alternative is called collectors frenzy though i dont think its as exhustive as popsike,hope that helps!

No it's not as exhaustive but it's more recent, threrefore more reliable about prices. https://www.collectorsfrenzy.com/

No it's not as exhaustive but it's more recent, threrefore more reliable about prices. https://www.collectorsfrenzy.com/

Think I'll stick with Popsike - has done me well so far - only so many hours in the day...

No it's not as exhaustive but it's more recent, threrefore more reliable about prices. https://www.collectorsfrenzy.com/

auction prices more often than not aren't a reliable guide for prices.......

auction prices more often than not aren't a reliable guide for prices.......

Well more reliable than the price guides if you ask me. Of course there's a lot of factors to be taken into account (who sold it, when did it finish etc.) but it can be a good guide to see whether demand is rising or falling.

Well more reliable than the price guides if you ask me. Of course there's a lot of factors to be taken into account (who sold it, when did it finish etc.) but it can be a good guide to see whether demand is rising or falling.

I disagree, it isn't a guide to demand rising or falling at all. How often do you see a topic on here highlighting some pair of pillocks who are just bidding silly on an item. More often than not if you ask on here you'd get the same record for less.

Keeping an eye on lists from dealers and what is being sold from dealers at venues is the best guide to both demand and cost.

auction prices more often than not aren't a reliable guide for prices.......

Keeping an eye on lists from dealers and what is being sold from dealers at venues is the best guide to both demand and cost.

Are you serious?

Oh dear.

Edited March 5, 201015 yr by James Trouble

Are you serious?

Oh dear.

you lot in the city should read some books on economics as well judging by the mess they got the country in....or did you realise that and edit your post accordingly

So you say that the odd auction result not matter how inflated the price is the best guide to a records cost and demand? For me the actual shop floor is the best guide of all.

you lot in the city should read some books on economics as well judging by the mess they got the country in....or did you realise that and edit your post accordingly

So you say that the odd auction result not matter how inflated the price is the best guide to a records cost and demand? For me the actual shop floor is the best guide of all.

I didn't want to sound too condescending. Pretty hard though, as your opinion on this is just ridiculous.

I'll find you a couple of simple pages on the internet to read about the economics of demand and supply...

Edited March 5, 201015 yr by James Trouble

edit double post

Edited March 5, 201015 yr by James Trouble

Chalky, try this one: https://www.investope.../economics3.asp

After you've read that we'll move onto a more detailed look at some of the assumptions of demand and supply analysis and then look in depth at the mechanics of the market mechanism.

After this, if you need it, we can move onto statistical analysis of auction results and develop your understanding of Guassian distributions, standard deviations and confidence intervals etc.

Edited March 5, 201015 yr by James Trouble

If you are a frequent buyer then it pays to be as informed as possible.

It's never going to be fool proof - there will always be anomalies as in any market

Factors such as expectation of future demand, reduction in supply, erratic human behaviour etc - imperfect information exists always.

However, a combination of the sources already quoted above; auction data, previous sales (lists, dealers, websites, forums, word of mouth, and experience) all help to reduce the risk of the imperfect information factor in the demand and supply equation.

Buyer beware - do your homework.

Regards,

Greg.

"Keeping an eye on lists from dealers and what is being sold from dealers at venues is the best guide to both demand and cost."

You just have to convert the dollars on popsike to pounds and you got the british dealers prices...

Edited March 5, 201015 yr by hermanthegerman

"Keeping an eye on lists from dealers and what is being sold from dealers at venues is the best guide to both demand and cost."

You just have to convert the dollars to pounds and you got the british dealers prices...

Herman, don't give away their secrets, Chalky's perception of reality may be shattered forever.

Edited March 5, 201015 yr by James Trouble

I didn't want to sound too condescending. Pretty hard though, as your opinion on this is just ridiculous.

I'll find you a couple of simple pages on the internet to read about the economics of demand and supply...

I know all about supply and demand but I would sooner base my assumptions on other facts than often over inflated auction prices. Sure the super rarity you can't predict a price as clearly but for many many records then ebay and JM's auction isn't the best guide to a price. As I said lists, what's happening at all-nighters, the informed views of people on places like here carry more weight for me and has served me well enough over the years.

I know all about supply and demand but I would sooner base my assumptions on other facts than often over inflated auction prices. Sure the super rarity you can't predict a price as clearly but for many many records then ebay and JM's auction isn't the best guide to a price. As I said lists, what's happening at all-nighters, the informed views of people on places like here carry more weight for me and has served me well enough over the years.

And not forgetting the times you get a bloody bargain on e bay ! when you just know you have got a 45 for half price !!

Does that de-value the 45 cause everyone who see's the result is expecting to get another copy that cheap ?

Just a thought !

M

for me to gauge a price of a tune i check popsike as a guide, use manships price guide as another guide, check any history of sales or wants on SS as a guide then add it all togehter with some advice from friends then determine what im willing to buy or sell at, no one record has a price set in stone, its about doing your homework and sometimes just praying you have enough dosh to buy the bloody thing if its available, sometimes pay more than the so called going rate sometimes grab a bargain but at the end of the day what you pay for a tune or sell a tune on any given day is the value of that tune to the buyer/seller on that given day, tomorrow is another day though

well thats my way of thinking anyway

Oh my god, we were so good without him...

Anyway, I think the original poster wasn't saying popsike sucks, but that you have limited access unless you pay. And yes, that sucks big time.

I know all about supply and demand but I would sooner base my assumptions on other facts than often over inflated auction prices. Sure the super rarity you can't predict a price as clearly but for many many records then ebay and JM's auction isn't the best guide to a price. As I said lists, what's happening at all-nighters, the informed views of people on places like here carry more weight for me and has served me well enough over the years.

Totally agree about the supply and demand and I am by no means an expert!! Have only been collecting for 2 years at the most. But thankfully I've got some good mates who will always give me some very good advice! I do look at Popsike but they don't tend to give a lot of really recent buys IMO.

So personally would rather go with 'word of mouth.'

Carol

Edited March 6, 201015 yr by jobbo

Oh my god, we were so good without him...

Anyway, I think the original poster wasn't saying popsike sucks, but that you have limited access unless you pay. And yes, that sucks big time.

That´s how it is!

Thanks to everyone.

Best.

Herman, don't give away their secrets, Chalky's perception of reality may be shattered forever.

i think youve answered th equestion for me as to who i would ask as to the the value of a record i was looking for james. Thank christ the majority of people i have bought vinyl from arent like you. No offence meant but the above says it all.

Edited March 13, 201015 yr by whatsthiscalled

i think youve answered th equestion for me as to who i would ask as to the the value of a record i was looking for james. Thank christ the majority of people i have bought vinyl from arent like you. No offence meant but the above says it all.

i think youve answered th equestion for me as to who i would ask as to the the value of a record i was looking for james. Thank christ the majority of people i have bought vinyl from arent like you. No offence meant but the above says it all.

You wanna try selling vinyl to him.............

Popsike, whilst an excellent site, it does have many limitations. Firstly it only deals with Ebay.

Secondly, it doesn't give a true reflection of the average price. This is because if an item sells for less than $50 it isn't listed.

As an example - Seeing an item on Popsike has sold for $73, $82, $110, $55 say, doesn't mean it should fetch $80 on average. It may be that it sold 10 times on Ebay for the $73, $82, $110, & $55 shown + $5, $40, $21, $8, $12, & $30. Giving a truer average of $43.