Many Countries ended up using the Tamla_Motown Logo, but who was first & who decided on the Logo.

Did EMI set the ball rolling or were they told that Tamla_Motown was the Logo to use along with other countries.

I know that CANADA Used the Tamla Label as their first Logo.

Initially on a Blue Label then Yellow TAMLA with the Number for the U.S.A. Release.

Eventually adopting Tamla_Motown as a Logo

We had Columbia, Fontana, London, Oriole, Stateside.

Eventually Tamla_Motown

Reference to Tamla Motown found in the Credits on the Stateside Release, even though it was released on Gordy in the States.

So who decided on Tamla_Motown

Another Early Gordy Release.

Popsike.com

Has MOTOWN Reference on ORIOLE

Popsike.com

In CANADA has Tamla Logo - Gordy Number

Popsike.com

However Tamla_Motown eventually became the Logo of choice.

According to Terry Wilson's book "Tamla Motown", Dave Godin felt that since he already had the TMAS

and the Stateside releases carried the "A Tamla - Motown Production", he felt that Motown should use

that name for all U.K. releases. Berry Gordy proposed the idea to EMI who okayed the new label.

We had Columbia, Fontana, London, Oriole, Stateside.

Eventually Tamla_Motown

I think there is a similar pattern in other countries, as in Motown Group recordings appeared on other local labels before 'Tamla Motown' kicked in...happened over here in Japan with initial releases appearing on the Globe label. As with the UK (TMG501), the Supremes', 'Stop In The Name Of Love' (Japan code = MOT1001) was the first Japanese release to bear the classic Tamla Motown script logo on the sleeve, although the 7" labels kept just the name, Motown, on them.

Here in NZ there is Stateside stuff pre the pink Tamla Motown ones.

Here in NZ there is Stateside stuff pre the pink Tamla Motown ones.

...In Australia there were a few Motown releases on His Masters Voice (Fingertips, Mickey's Monkey, When The Lovelight Stars Shining Through His Eyes etc.) before Staateside and, subsequently, T-M.

Before that, W & G released at least one (and possibly more) Motown 45 - 'Do You Love Me' by the Contours.

I'd show you all a scan of it - only I seem to no longer be able to post scans on here since the last round of alleged 'upgrades' to the site...

BTW the UK T-M logo was apparently designed by an in-house EMI art person in about 5 minutes flat, after Berry Gordy rejected a bunch of considerably more elaborate ones that he'd spent days creating. BG liked the simplicity and a legendary logo was born!

...In Australia there were a few Motown releases on His Masters Voice (Fingertips, Mickey's Monkey, When The Lovelight Stars Shining Through His Eyes etc.) before Staateside and, subsequently, T-M.

Before that, W & G released at least one (and possibly more) Motown 45 - 'Do You Love Me' by the Contours.

I'd show you all a scan of it - only I seem to no longer be able to post scans on here since the last round of alleged 'upgrades' to the site...

BTW the UK T-M logo was apparently designed by an in-house EMI art person in about 5 minutes flat, after Berry Gordy rejected a bunch of considerably more elaborate ones that he'd spent days creating. BG liked the simplicity and a legendary logo was born!

When replying press more reply options,attach files bottom left Tony

now i'm trying to remember if there was anything pre-Stateside here in NZ.....

...and to really start nailing things down, the first release on T-M in Japan came out during June '65...sadly the files don't state a date.

I'm 100% certain no country before the U.K..

The launch of the label coincided with the Motown Revue tour and TV special.

From the EMI house magazine "EMI plans to launch the new label on March 19th (1965)"

The tour kicked off at the Astoria, Finsbury park on March 20th.

The label launched with 6 singles, 6 EP's and 6 LP's.

From RECORD MIRROR, week ending March 20 1965:

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Ad for the first 6 LP's and first 6 EP's:

And a bit fro Billboard Magazine in Feb 1965.

Obviously the launch date of the label was put back a few days.

When replying press more reply options,attach files bottom left Tony

Like this you mean?

...Still a a lot of unnecessary faffing about compared to the old way of doing things, IMO. One of the things that SS could ways pride itself on was the easy navigability of the site. Not any more, though, and it seems to me that it's becoming harder to navigate on a monthly basis.

Change is not always for the good...

ah but nobody said it was going to be easy tony

Many Thanks for ALL Information.

Always something new to learn when collecting.

Like this you mean?

...Still a a lot of unnecessary faffing about compared to the old way of doing things, IMO. One of the things that SS could ways pride itself on was the easy navigability of the site. Not any more, though, and it seems to me that it's becoming harder to navigate on a monthly basis.

Change is not always for the good...

Tony

i doubt if will ever convince you of either why needed or the advantages of upgrades etc

however the upload feature has always needed a new page open

one small thing just to demo one advantage, when posting now

if you use the "my media" button in the editor

you will now be able to repost that attachment or indeed any attachment you have ever posted on here anywhere you want

without leaving the page

Years ago I remember checking out the U.K. trade mark applications for that period. I expected to find the Tamla Motown logo trade marked but I think they just trade marked the words.

Thinking about it that made sense because you couldn't have the logo without the words and it gave them flexibility if they wanted to change the design.

I probably took copies but where would they be now . . . . . . . . . . . ??!!

MB

So, then Tamla Records in Canada, was the first Motown-owned label outside USA, and UK's Tamla-Motown was the first Motown owned label outside North America.

...In Australia there were a few Motown releases on His Masters Voice (Fingertips, Mickey's Monkey, When The Lovelight Stars Shining Through His Eyes etc.) before Staateside and, subsequently, T-M.

Before that, W & G released at least one (and possibly more) Motown 45 - 'Do You Love Me' by the Contours.

I'd show you all a scan of it - only I seem to no longer be able to post scans on here since the last round of alleged 'upgrades' to the site...

BTW the UK T-M logo was apparently designed by an in-house EMI art person in about 5 minutes flat, after Berry Gordy rejected a bunch of considerably more elaborate ones that he'd spent days creating. BG liked the simplicity and a legendary logo was born!

Tony

W & G in Australia also released the Marvellettes "Please Mr Postman" and, amazingly, Bunny Paul's "I'm Hooked".

But it all started in Australia with Bob Kayli on London (that's if you count Bob Kayli as a Motown record) and then Barrett Strong "Money" and the Miracles "Shop Around" both on London.

Then there was the Spinners "That's What Girls ... " on Aussie Astor in 1961 (again that's if you count the Spinners as a Motown record) and then, as you say, HMV and Stateside and finally Australian Tamla Motown.

Also, interestingly, there was actually an Australian Tamla Motown Appreciation Society, based in Melbourne, whom I understand were associated with Dave Godin and the UK counterpart.

According to Terry Wilson's book "Tamla Motown", Dave Godin felt that since he already had the TMAS

and the Stateside releases carried the "A Tamla - Motown Production", he felt that Motown should use

that name for all U.K. releases. Berry Gordy proposed the idea to EMI who okayed the new label.

HI ALL This is bang on as the correct info. Any other mention was verbal and any written reference to TAMLA-MOTOWN is coincidental. DAVE K