Pete S Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 No offence but I'd be embarassed to offer this for sale if it were mine apparently it's The Opals..quick, it ends in 2 hours Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest dundeedavie Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 No offence but I'd be embarassed to offer this for sale if it were mine apparently it's The Opals..quick, it ends in 2 hours whats the vinyl condition like though ..... don't give an arse about the label Davie Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Matt Male Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 (edited) whats the vinyl condition like though ..... don't give an arse about the label Davie Really? Isn't the label important too though? If not you may as well buy an acetate or a boot and scratch the label off. Who's to know it's the original without the label intact? (yes i know there are other ways of finding this out) The label is as much part of the record as the grooves. M. Edited November 13, 2005 by Matt Male Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted November 13, 2005 Author Share Posted November 13, 2005 Really? Isn't the label important too though? If not you may as well buy an acetate or a boot and scratch the label off. Who's to know it's the original without the label intact? (yes i know there are other ways of finding this out) The label is as much part of the record as the grooves. M. Course it is. I wouldn't buy the above record for a quid. Spot on Matt. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest dundeedavie Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Really? Isn't the label important too though? If not you may as well buy an acetate or a boot and scratch the label off. Who's to know it's the original without the label intact? (yes i know there are other ways of finding this out) The label is as much part of the record as the grooves. M. not to me .... the grooves count for me ... if i was looking for an expensive tune and someone was selling it with a knackered label for a discounted price i'd have it no question Davie Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest noss Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 (edited) Course it is. I wouldn't buy the above record for a quid. Spot on Matt. Unless you like the music contained therein? This confirms my long held belief that collecting rare (soul) records is as much about the object as the music. Edited November 13, 2005 by noss Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 No offence but I'd be embarassed to offer this for sale if it were mine apparently it's The Opals..quick, it ends in 2 hours Bet you wouldnt say no to this one though Pete Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted November 13, 2005 Author Share Posted November 13, 2005 Bet you wouldnt say no to this one though Pete Mate if I wanted a Lester Tipton with no label I'd get a Grapevine one and tear it off. I honestly believe that anyone who buys a record like that is either very mad or has money to burn. Seriously, I'd pay maybe £50 tops for that. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest cC B Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 I would be happy to pay £200 for a £2000 record, if the label was fucked, as long as the vinyl was clean. But I wouldn't be interested in paying £10 for a £100 record with a fucked label. Does this make sense? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted November 13, 2005 Author Share Posted November 13, 2005 I would be happy to pay £200 for a £2000 record, if the label was fucked, as long as the vinyl was clean. But I wouldn't be interested in paying £10 for a £100 record with a fucked label. Does this make sense? Nothing makes sense anymore Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 I would be happy to pay £200 for a £2000 record, if the label was fucked, as long as the vinyl was clean. But I wouldn't be interested in paying £10 for a £100 record with a fucked label. Does this make sense? Makes a lot of sense especialy if you are trying to complete the label and with L T that is the one most are missing. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest allnightandy Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) No offence but I'd be embarassed to offer this for sale if it were mine apparently it's The Opals..quick, it ends in 2 hours Wasn't this one was it ? i know it's been a long time but.....and it is The Opals https://i.ebayimg.com...pwtg~~60_12.JPG you will be pleased to know the condition is G+ Edited January 8, 2012 by allnightandy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) Strewth, last winter I went past a shop in Chicago, western suburbs a few miles out, and nearly all of the records were like that , except Shades of Jade on Dore which was NM. Edited January 8, 2012 by Steve G Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest allnightandy Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Strewth, last winter I went past a shop in Chicago, western suburbs a few miles out, and nearly all of the records were like that , except Shades of Jade on Dore which was NM. a mate of mine brought some back from New York which he bought off street sellers they have been stored in boxes face to face with no covers for years some good stuff but in absolute shite condition ! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 That opals 45 pic is far from the worst condition ever. I actually bought the worst condition ever record here recently. The labels were 90% torn off completely, the vinyl was trashed, and there was a huge warp and a crack. It was described as "VG". Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 yeh but did it play ok bob Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
MrsWoodsrules Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Funny one really, I was watching this, beaten up but a nice record, decided too trashed in the end, went for nothing though. https://www.ebay.com/itm/370574269193?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_500wt_689 Aid. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 yeh but did it play ok bob yes it did play ok (obviously with some noise though). apparently that's all that counts to some people Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sleeps45 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 That opals 45 pic is far from the worst condition ever. I actually bought the worst condition ever record here recently. The labels were 90% torn off completely, the vinyl was trashed, and there was a huge warp and a crack. It was described as "VG". im sure it went straight back to the seller..i'll only buy beat up vinyl if its real cheap and very obscure Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 im sure it went straight back to the seller..i'll only buy beat up vinyl if its real cheap and very obscure no, i didn't want to deal with it and it was a record that would be expensive clean so i was like "f*ck it" Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest allnightandy Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 This one had to swim for it's life from hurricane Katrina https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jimmy-Norman-Dont-Love-You-No-More-Northern-Soul-45-/230481766690?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item35a9c8a922 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 This one had to swim for it's life from hurricane Katrina https://www.ebay.co.u...=item35a9c8a922 there was a seller selling 45s and advertising them all as katrina damaged. They were able to clean up the vinyl but the labels were ugly and had dirt that they were only able to partially clean. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest allnightandy Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 there was a seller selling 45s and advertising them all as katrina damaged. They were able to clean up the vinyl but the labels were ugly and had dirt that they were only able to partially clean. might be the same guy , i think he's got 1,600 records up and it would taketoo long to go through em Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 might be the same guy , i think he's got 1,600 records up and it would taketoo long to go through em no, i don't remember the id of the "katrina water" seller but that's not them. i think it was "leontgross" or something like that. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest allnightandy Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 no, i don't remember the id of the "katrina water" seller but that's not them. i think it was "leontgross" or something like that. i bought some okeh demo's off some dealer in new orleans just after the hurricane , and never received them he insisted he had sent them , i complained to ebay but nothing happened problem was these records were cheap and i felt he didn't want to part with them at the price i won them for anyway about two years after he refunded my money and this time he said that the reason he never sent them was because they were water damaged in the hurricane Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest allnightandy Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Another one for the list https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NORTHERN-SOUL-45-RPM-EDWARD-HAMILTON-FIFES-JAMECO-RECORDS-/370577485833?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item564823b009 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
John A Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 How about this one? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Soul-45-Howard-Guyton-Watched-You-Slowly-Slip-Away-Verve-Promo-10386-/160722147006?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item256bc956be Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 How about this one? https://www.ebay.com/...=item256bc956be this one is funny just because of the grade. the rest of the stuff is not even close to the worst ever on ebay at any time. also, the worst ever has to be what you can find in chicago in real life. like from a flooded basement when all the records are stuck together in one big sandwich Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest allnightandy Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 (edited) That has got to be the best so far only fit for covering a hole in the wallpaper LoL why would anybody try to sell it ? Edited January 24, 2012 by allnightandy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest allnightandy Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 this one is funny just because of the grade. the rest of the stuff is not even close to the worst ever on ebay at any time. also, the worst ever has to be what you can find in chicago in real life. like from a flooded basement when all the records are stuck together in one big sandwich There is a thread on this mysterious flooded basement somewhere on here ! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 There is a thread on this mysterious flooded basement somewhere on here ! you mean like every basement ever in the chicago south suburbs? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest allnightandy Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 (edited) you mean like every basement ever in the chicago south suburbs? Back in the Wigan Casino days Guys used to turn up with boxes of records with water damaged labels and fantastic stories of where they were obtained ! Ballast in ships was another good one ! Edited January 24, 2012 by allnightandy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Back in the Wigan Casino days Guys used to turn up with boxes of records with water damaged labels and fantastic stories of where they were obtained ! Ballast in ships was another good one ! The records I'm talking about are like one big moldy sandwich of stuck together singles. If you peel them apart you'll get like no label and the record will be trashed independent of that. I must have something like that lying around, although I mostly throw stuff like that away so i'm not sure. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Mrs M Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 My Ivories - Please Stay on Despenza is well knackered when you look at it but plays like a dream.. Came from the US for $1.75.. Fave tune of all time.. It came as a gift off Phil Wainwright and Alex Jones on a trip to the States... Can't ask for a more perfect pressie.. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sleeps45 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I bought a g condition record on ebay recently it was rare and I knew I was buying a hammered "playable" record..I paid like $20 bucks and I recieved the 45 cracked almost entirely in half just to put the icing on the cake..that was the worst conditon 45 Ive ever purchased to date..pissed me off..it came from italy and the crack was not mentioned..anyhow I think at this point its probably cheaper to keep it Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I bought a g condition record on ebay recently it was rare and I knew I was buying a hammered "playable" record..I paid like $20 bucks and I recieved the 45 cracked almost entirely in half just to put the icing on the cake..that was the worst conditon 45 Ive ever purchased to date..pissed me off..it came from italy and the crack was not mentioned..anyhow I think at this point its probably cheaper to keep it do a paypal chargeback Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sleeps45 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 do a paypal chargeback how do I go about doing that? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest enchantedrythm Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Really? Isn't the label important too though? If not you may as well buy an acetate or a boot and scratch the label off. Who's to know it's the original without the label intact? (yes i know there are other ways of finding this out) The label is as much part of the record as the grooves. M. CONDITION ON THE WHOLE IS THE LEAST IMPORTANT CRITERIA ON OUR SCENE-??????? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Codfromderby Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 bought a couple of records from a dealer in new york (i think) who now deals in autographs, mentioned his name on here before, records advertised as vg+ come in filthy nick packed in old cerial packets, the records i have bought have arrived safely, bought a record by ronnie and the ramblers, "woman of mine", filthy, scratched, dirty label and the outside edge of the record seemed to have been worn with a file or something resulting in a circular 45 with a 1" flat edge, Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Britmusicsoulfan Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 This one had to swim for it's life from hurricane Katrina https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jimmy-Norman-Dont-Love-You-No-More-Northern-Soul-45-/230481766690?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item35a9c8a922 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest allnightandy Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) I put this on comedy sale of the day but it's worth a viewing on here ! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251001826970?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648 Edited February 26, 2012 by allnightandy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 I put this on comedy sale of the day but it's worth a viewing on here ! https://www.ebay.co.u...984.m1423.l2648 But believe it or not, that is actually a common condition for reggae blanks, I still have 20 or 30! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest allnightandy Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 But believe it or not, that is actually a common condition for reggae blanks, I still have 20 or 30! Any reason for it ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Any reason for it ? I see this in the US as a result of a crate of records in a flooded basement. It would be interesting to know (as you're asking) how they get that way in Jamaica. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 Any reason for it ? Well they don't all start of plain white, some use old labels reversed so they look odd to start with. I suppose it's just general wear and tear but the really bad ones I've had all come from Jamaica and not the Uk so it must be to do with the weather conditions and the storage maybe? I mean some of them actually feel mouldy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest allnightandy Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Well they don't all start of plain white, some use old labels reversed so they look odd to start with. I suppose it's just general wear and tear but the really bad ones I've had all come from Jamaica and not the Uk so it must be to do with the weather conditions and the storage maybe? I mean some of them actually feel mouldy Could be staining from all the Ganja smoke LoL Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 Could be staining from all the Ganja smoke LoL You could be right actually! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Well they don't all start of plain white, some use old labels reversed so they look odd to start with. I suppose it's just general wear and tear but the really bad ones I've had all come from Jamaica and not the Uk so it must be to do with the weather conditions and the storage maybe? I mean some of them actually feel mouldy maybe it's the same as in the US -- crates of records in flooded basements. I wonder what Jamaicans think about 45s given that a specific style of music is more strongly associated with their country. Like do most people think it's old crap to be thrown away or do they value them more? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 You could be right actually! when I get records from a (tobacco) smoking household, I can smell it as soon as I open up the package. it seems to dissipate quickly though. I bet the weed smell would never go away though. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
kevinsoulman Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 even john manships selling em now kev Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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