I have 2 copiies of this 45, One is a light Pink label and has the scratched in matrix number 1373 - 1A which I believe is a counterfeit.

As in John Manships Guide to Bootlegs, Conterfeits and Reissues. In it he says the original has the scratched in matrix number 1373 - 1E

 

My problem is the Darker one of the two has a stamped circle with MR inside and then followed by scratched in BG. 1372 - 1D on Reach Out side, and stamped circle with MR inside and then scratched in 1373 - 1D on the Magic Potion side.

Is this a reissue ?

thanks

Don

 

 

Can't see Magic Potion getting booted with reach Out on the other side.  I think it was booted as a vocal b/w instrumental.

Can't see Magic Potion getting booted with reach Out on the other side.  I think it was booted as a vocal b/w instrumental.

Hi Pete,

according to John's book it was ?

cheers

Don

Hi Pete,

according to John's book it was ?

cheers

Don

 

Must be true then 

'Magic Potion' was booted as the flip to 'Unsatisfied'. Didn't think 'Reach Out...' was booted? I have the pink one too and it's deffo kosher.  

Can't see Magic Potion getting booted with reach Out on the other side.  I think it was booted as a vocal b/w instrumental.

 

Actually think it was on a maroon or brown Big Top label with Unsatisfied on B side, still can't see why a common chart record would be counterfeited

Lou Johnson 1.jpg

 

Still think it's two different presses.

Still think it's two different presses.

Do you think they are both ok then Pete ?

The one i have is a pink label styrene press,with the Monarch MR stamp and 1373-1D,delta # 48391-XA on Magic Potion side.

 

Dave f.......

I have it on UK London, so have no problem with bootlegs! 

 

I can't actually remember noticing one though, "reach out" a great song in its own right, has never been in big enough demand to warrant booting.

But as Pete says, if it's in the book, then it must be true 

Reach Out For Me made number 74 on the Billboard pop charts, which is why I was sceptical about the need to bootleg it.

Both Reach Outs from the same stamper.

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I am sure I had a Gerrie Granger Breakdown west coast demo a while back.

Mine is pink, boot matrix, but it looks right, print definition is spot on, not expensive or rare, so why boot it ?

I have Missery by The Dynamics that has AT in the dead wax, me Gerrie Granger has a Bell stamp and ABC distribution and 2 Monarch Loo's oooh and one with an LW mark.

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 HI ALL.. Here is the rarest copy, from my collection, value in 2014 don't know Pete S could tell us, however it is a hard one to find, harder than unsatisfied in my opinion.  DAVE K

 HI ALL.. Here is the rarest copy, from my collection, value in 2014 don't know Pete S could tell us, however it is a hard one to find, harder than unsatisfied in my opinion.  DAVE K

LOU J REACH OUT FOR ME DEMO.jpgMAGIC POTION DEMO.jpg

 

Fudge me !! what a super-dupa copy 

I have them on this EP, not sure if it's an early "original" or a later issued "original" ?

I have to say that Lou Johnson is one heck of a singer and 'reach out' is a top choon but I do

prefer Roy Hamilton's version. 

The one i have is a pink label styrene press,with the Monarch MR stamp and 1373-1D,delta # 48391-XA on Magic Potion side.

 

Dave f.......

 

Dave, I think anything under the 100.000 Delta matrix number 'usually' means it's OK.

Dave, I think anything under the 100.000 Delta matrix number 'usually' means it's OK.

 

It's just an accurate way to date things.  90*** / 100*** are from 74 to 77

Mine is pink, boot matrix, but it looks right, print definition is spot on, not expensive or rare, so why boot it ?

I thought the same thing about my vinyl copy of Darrell Banks "Open the door to your heart" which was booted/counterfitted because it was so popular.

 

Dave

I thought the same thing about my vinyl copy of Darrell Banks "Open the door to your heart" which was booted/counterfitted because it was so popular.

 

Dave

 

Never really had that situation with Magic Potion though.  Massive popularity I mean.

reach out was released around 1963 which, if pressed at monarch at that time, would give it a delta number of between 46000 and 49000. Dave says the number on the magic side is 48391 so it could be good. vinyl copies also have a stamp, not too dissimilar to a bed, pressed into the runout the same as the verve and some mgm records. great record btw