https://cgi.ebay.com/Two-Plus-Two-I-M-SURE-...1QQcmdZViewItem

How can this be described as excellent? I appreciate it may be rare but it looks VG- to me. This is a subject close to my heart at the moment as I've just receievd two fairly low value records that were described as VG which were totally unplayable, and I paid registerd post I got a third of the value refund.

assuming someone found it before James, why didn't he let that bidder have it...

...cos Wrighty didn't want it

So what's J.J. Arrington like then?

Dan Marino is some kind of Rufus Lumley "Stronger Than Me" thing, is it not??

Dan Marino is the kind of - Tams - Hey girl dont bother me, type of player, people who havent much knowledge of NFL still know him.

JJ is Butch's latest reactivation. Played to an empty dancefloor at 5am in Wigan, JJ is about to break out in 'Suspicion' style at the top of the world, (Well a suberb of Phoenix actually) He had a tough rookie year, but has the potential to go with plenty of plays.

In actual fact Backfield in Motion (as he is a running back) would probably be more apt, but it doesnt fit my analogy. (Someone will now dispute that Suspicion was ever played at Wigan)

Dan Marino is the kind of - Tams - Hey girl dont bother me, type of player, people who havent much knowledge of NFL still know him.

JJ is Butch's latest reactivation. Played to an empty dancefloor at 5am in Wigan, JJ is about to break out in 'Suspicion' style at the top of the world, (Well a suberb of Phoenix actually) He had a tough rookie year, but has the potential to go with plenty of plays.

In actual fact Backfield in Motion (as he is a running back) would probably be more apt, but it doesnt fit my analogy. (Someone will now dispute that Suspicion was ever played at Wigan)

Mikey

I have it on good authority that your JJ Arrington card is a boot. If your Football Card forum did the decent thing and discussed live auctions you'd have been informed and spared the heartache.

Edited August 8, 200618 yr by sweeney

Mikey

I have it on good authority that your JJ Arrington card is a boot. If your Baseball Card forum did the decent thing and discussed live auctions you'd have been informed and spared the heartache.

If he does beome as good as I hope, and good enough to have boots made (they absolutely do), then I will be sitting on a few boxes of gold.

The only time auctions do get discussed are when bootleg cards crop up. Mostly jersey cards but these boots if not spotted can make serious money.

...cos Wrighty didn't want it

thank you jason

i guess i feel slightly responsible as i did indeed show james the auction last week, i stumbled across it by accident and at the time it only had a bid of $11 and very few views, and for some reason i thought james might want it

of course we'd all like to believe we're gonna get the bargain (?) of the century but as someone said earlier its increasingly unlikely these days....but human nature always takes over so if u're involved with a record u're not going to want to see it picked over on this very forum eh

fair enough, the original post was about the condition but it still flagged the record up

as to who got it taken off - my lips are sealed...

How can this be described as excellent? I appreciate it may be rare but it looks VG- to me.

I thought EX was actually short for Excrement!

Obviously the original poster did not mean anything by flagging up the auction. But generally speaking I think it is the agreement of pretty much all forums involved in collecting that it is bad form to discuss running ebay auctions before they are over.

Everything Mikey says is spot on.

I thought EX was actually short for Excrement!

Well it was in this case Gene

Obviously the original poster did not mean anything by flagging up the auction. But generally speaking I think it is the agreement of pretty much all forums involved in collecting that it is bad form to discuss running ebay auctions before they are over.

Everything Mikey says is spot on.

No chance

I got it through and it was unplayable. I sent it back and the chap has relisted it. G-? I think there might be another disappointed customer, even at g-!

I got it through and it was unplayable. I sent it back and the chap has relisted it. G-? I think there might be another disappointed customer, even at g-!

How on earth did he arrive at his EX- grade?

How on earth did he arrive at his EX- grade?

He never called it ex-, he said it was "in excellent- condition", like the dance floor at the 100 club is in "excellent condition", concidering how many people have been jumping up on down on it for 27 years!

He's an amateur, his feedback is from selling brick-a-brack. No paypal either, all money orders.

Edited August 16, 200618 yr by James Trouble

Paul I agree with you 100%.

It's a forum for discussing records.

ISNT THAT THE POINT OF THIS FORUM

i've just noticed this guy has re listed it, looks like he's had a crash course in record grading

https://cgi.ebay.com/Two-Plus-Two-I-M-SURE-...1QQcmdZViewItem

And now the seller says:

"PLEASE BE ADVISED, REGARDLESS TO WHAT IS POSTED ON THE WORLD WIDE WEB (INTERNET) I HAVE NEVER SHIPED THIS RECORD TO ANYONE. I HAVE PLAYED IT OVER THE PHONE. I HAVE AND WILL SEND MP3 TO SERIOUS BIDDERS. THE RECORD IS VERY PLAYABLE. Mr, Trouble made an effort to purchase this record but we were not able to come to an agreement. This is I assume is his way of keeping others from bidding on the record."

And now the seller says:

"PLEASE BE ADVISED, REGARDLESS TO WHAT IS POSTED ON THE WORLD WIDE WEB (INTERNET) I HAVE NEVER SHIPED THIS RECORD TO ANYONE. I HAVE PLAYED IT OVER THE PHONE. I HAVE AND WILL SEND MP3 TO SERIOUS BIDDERS. THE RECORD IS VERY PLAYABLE. Mr, Trouble made an effort to purchase this record but we were not able to come to an agreement. This is I assume is his way of keeping others from bidding on the record."

I asked the guy for an mp3 of both sides and received only the 'Look Around' side, which plays through with some crackle (but I've had worse); however, when I requested an MP3 of the 'I'm Sure' side he said 'One side only for evaluation.' Suggests to me that that side doesn't play.

I asked the guy for an mp3 of both sides and received only the 'Look Around' side, which plays through with some crackle (but I've had worse); however, when I requested an MP3 of the 'I'm Sure' side he said 'One side only for evaluation.' Suggests to me that that side doesn't play.

Well IMO - he sent the right side. "I'm Sure" is the side that isn't really worth a . "Look Around" is the decent side.........

Well IMO - he sent the right side. "I'm Sure" is the side that isn't really worth a . "Look Around" is the decent side.........

I actually like both sides, link to Mr Manship's rarest page so you can make up your minds:

https://www.raresoulman.co.uk/rarest-of-the-rare/68

What an interesting thread this has turned into!