I have just bought a copy of this, it has got the machine stamped matrix but the label looks like a wrap around label not a stick on one as is the normal styrene record.

Does the vinyl counterfeit have a stamped matrix??

On LE GRAND or the less rare SPQR?

Ed

My SPQR is machine stamped ZTSP122833-1A

 

White demo or green stock copy?

Ed

sorry should have said SPQR 

According to discogs, original is stamped, reissue is scratched.

Ed

origanal is styrene  . 1973 pressing is vinyl slightly different gold colour there also a repro thats blackish with silver writing really bad sound quality also 2nd issue 1002 orange label .the numbers  the mellorfull  put up are correct .

Hope that these help 

 

 

Edited June 13, 2024Jun 13 by Bo Diddley

thanks for the info my copy is machine stamped ZTSP122833-1A so must be okay, appreciate the help.

Always liked the Elsie Strong version of this on Finally label.It has the instrumental on the flip which is great in its own right.

Edited February 8, 20187 yr by Patto

Lenis Guess has an aol email account. If you contact him, he will communicate with you!

Never seen a LE GRAND original copy in the flesh, but would love to own one!

Ed

see legrand wd

I thought the demo copies were fakes on LE GRAND?

Stock copy has a gap after LE and before GRAND.

Ed

hi bud not that i know of here is the gold one

glyn

That looks like the original rare issue. Thanks for posting.

Ed

John Manships latest video on boots etc is really interesting where he shows the difference in sound quality, originals are proven to have that higher sound rating

threads like this are why I'll never buy a really expensive record off evil bay or someone without proven credibility

 

Knowledge is power.......or at least an advantage from getting stung!

I'm sure we've all made an error at some point. 

That's why this site is so good for collectors who get advice before a large purchase!

Ed

According to john Manship lenis was not booted on wd legrand my mate was talking to him last night about it. I'm still learning been on the scene since 72

yours

glyn

Interesting....JM is an expert after all.

Discogs also has stated no real demos on LG, just SPQR.

Here is a bit more info on Lenis..

3 hours ago, tomangoes said:

Interesting....JM is an expert after all.

Discogs also has stated no real demos on LG, just SPQR.

Here is a bit more info on Lenis..

Does that say that his middle name is "Defect" ??????

On ‎09‎/‎02‎/‎2018 at 22:06, ljblanken said:

Does that say that his middle name is "Defect" ??????

defect the 3rd, so there were 2 other defects before him? You'd have thought they'd got it right by then

Most probably an included past family surname. Perhaps his Mother's maiden surname, rather than something wrong with him.

Could also mean a defector.....

Unusual all the same. A very successful career Lenis has had.

Ed

1 hour ago, tomangoes said:

Most probably an included past family surname. Perhaps his Mother's maiden surname, rather than something wrong with him.

Could also mean a defector.....

Unusual all the same. A very successful career Lenis has had.

Ed

for sure! 

just got a minter of this - my fave from him:

 

This is the version for me . On flip of ‘some woman’s bedroom’ (the record with the squeaky bed springs solo !!)