Hi,

please can you tell me the going rate for VEDA - WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT - WEST SOUNDS 45

thanks for any info

Andy

https://www.popsike.com/php/detaildatar.php?itemnr=4802368065

The above is an ebay auction price .. Great bit of modern Veda , top quality dancer !

i would have said anywhere from 100-150 pounds upwards

really great record

Hi Andy, there has been a fair bit of interest in this of late. Expect a mint copy to change hands for £175.00. and demand will push it higher this year.

D'Arcy

still an absolute bargain at 175.00

still an absolute bargain at 175.00

ten dollars fromashop in redwood city around 1988,, top sound

Or £3.50 as a new release from Soul Bowl in 1984...

Or £3.50 as a new release from Soul Bowl in 1984...

Wow just dug this out , what a record ..soulful and a dancer ..Any info on Veda anyone ?

funny how everyone likes to brag about about their cheap record buys....how about confession time for the most money paid...for arecord that you just had to have........

Souljazera: there was an entire thread on the subject of 'worst buys' a few years back. It didn't run for long. For some reason contributors were not very forthcoming.

I mentioned picking up Veda from Soul Bowl because I'm sure many of us on here did. It was widely and glowingly reviewed in all the magazines that dealt with soul music at the time, from Blues & Soul to Black Beat and all points inbetween. I'm pretty sure that Robbie Vincent even played it on his Radio 1 show on Sunday evening for at least a couple of weeks. John Anderson must have stocked and sold a quantity approaching four figures.

The point I'm attempting to make ties in with what was written on the thread on forgotten modern spins recently: in those days there was a seemingly endless flow of quality modern soul records being imported to the UK on a weekly basis. I'm sure that if some of these were re-appraised by the deejaying fraternity a few of them would cross over to the rare soul market and become in-demand again. A mate recently showed me some old Soul Bowl lists he had kept from the late 1970s: on them were records like Trey-Js and Guitar Ray for £1.50 (along with Northern things like The Just Brothers and Honey Bees on Garrison for £5.00); suggesting that both titles were around in fairly significant quanity (holds hands about a foot apart).

I freely admit to having spent fortunes over the odds on mediocre 'rare soul' over the years. I've sold practically all those type of records, but funnily enough I still have boxes of the 80s independents I bought from SB, Record Corner, Dave Raistrick, Voices, Bluebird etc. I still get a buzz from playing these records and I hope that I'm not alone in thinking that at least a few of them will have their day: it's not about monetary value at all: it has more to do with a hope that a new generation of fan will pick up on them and appreciate them for the great records that some of them undoubtedly were.

hi gareth

couldnt agree more..i bought a few cheapies and i bought a few exxxxpensives as well....i confess to buying from the bowl ....but never saw honey bees for a fiver i paid a full twenty pounds of my paper round money....i kid not!!!!

i do remember visiting mr anderson seeing many piles of now VERY RARE & expensive records northern-modern-deep-funk....but that is simply all in the past now.....

incidentally i got my veda both copies from voices....

funny how everyone likes to brag about about their cheap record buys....how about confession time for the most money paid...for arecord that you just had to have........

especially when they bought the record 15+ yrs ago when most of these records were $1 or less at the stores here in the bay area. most 70s/80s tunes were cheap back then cause nobody cared.

now if you said you bought it for a couple of bucks a year or 3 ago then that would be something cool... otherwise its not.

as far as veda, they cut three 45s (two on M/W and one on West Sounds) for Bill Watley in EPalo Alto in the 70s. they gigged a lot down the peninsula but didnt make much more noise than that in either sf or the east bay (oakland). they regrouped in the late 70s/80s as Sorokas and cut two 45s, two LPs and a 12".

i have reels for the west sounds and the orange labeled M/W 45s. ill try and post up some pictures of the group at a later date...

(sorry if pics are big)

especially when they bought the record 15+ yrs ago when most of these records were $1 or less at the stores here in the bay area. most 70s/80s tunes were cheap back then cause nobody cared.

now if you said you bought it for a couple of bucks a year or 3 ago then that would be something cool... otherwise its not.

as far as veda, they cut three 45s (two on M/W and one on West Sounds) for Bill Watley in EPalo Alto in the 70s. they gigged a lot down the peninsula but didnt make much more noise than that in either sf or the east bay (oakland). they regrouped in the late 70s/80s as Sorokas and cut two 45s, two LPs and a 12".

i have reels for the west sounds and the orange labeled M/W 45s. ill try and post up some pictures of the group at a later date...

(sorry if pics are big)

Wow thanks for that ... Sorakas hey . got the LP and a 45 , looking forward to the pictures

will they look as freaky as the Spank Chank band ..

ATB

Simon

Edited February 8, 200718 yr by Simon M

Wow thanks for that ... Sorakas hey . got the LP and a 45 , looking forward to the pictures

will they look as freaky as the Spank Chank band ..

ATB

Simon

I didn't know that either...another bit of info for the memory bank...adding to the knowledge..

Had the Veda (great record,by the way ) and a Sorakas "Gentle Touch/Dream Girl" from Soul Bowl, the Spank Chank Band too, was buying heavily then from the Bowl, Record Corner etc, who were doing sterling work for the soul lover, lots of excellent stuff, every week, suppose it was the last flowering of independent 7" soul records really.... , though we didn't know it at the time...or I'd have bought more... .

"now if you said you bought it for a couple of bucks a year or 3 ago then that would be something cool... otherwise its not."

Sorry for not being 'cool' enough to wait twenty years and dig it out of a proverbial crate. Thanks for the pics though.

gareth

Edited February 9, 200718 yr by garethx

Wow just dug this out , what a record ..soulful and a dancer ..Any info on Veda anyone ?

I think we did an article on them in Blackbeat ?

I think we did an article on them in Blackbeat ?

if you have an interview/article on them id really like to read it. please post here or if you have a link or some way for me to read it while online that would be awesome. ive never talked to the band only the producer.

thanks!

I think we did an article on them in Blackbeat ?

Hmmm I sort of remember that Steve , cant wait for all the BB reissues in glossy format ...... ( I'll get me coat)

"now if you said you bought it for a couple of bucks a year or 3 ago then that would be something cool... otherwise its not."

Sorry for not being 'cool' enough to wait twenty years and dig it out of a proverbial crate. Thanks for the pics though.

gareth

never said YOU were/nt cool. you might be the coolest thing since velcro. i dont know you. i was just writing that it isnt that great that someone bought a multiple hundred $ record 15yrs ago before any real value was put to it and before folks even really cared about those records. just saying...

great you copped it for cheap though. it is a damn good record.

speaking of veda, does anyone like the record they have called Running the He Say (She Say) on the yellow labeled

M/W?

I don't know any of the Veda 45s mentioned in this thread, but I guess it's a completely different Veda than the Veda with a release on Instant?

never said YOU were/nt cool. you might be the coolest thing since velcro. i dont know you. i was just writing that it isnt that great that someone bought a multiple hundred $ record 15yrs ago before any real value was put to it and before folks even really cared about those records. just saying...

I think you will find most sensible people think its far cooler to have bought the record new because you liked it rather than now just because everyone else likes it, regardless of price at any time, its known as taste over sheep! Or maybe being a music fan rather than a vinyl fan.

Very strange logic in your sentences above.

yeah ....excellent record i nver connected it with the veda whats it all about though....doohhhh

just thought it ws another group

speaking of veda, does anyone like the record they have called Running the He Say (She Say) on the yellow labeled

I've picked up 2 x Sorokas 45s only last year not sure if there are any more ?

both are on the same label one credited to Sorokas and one to Sorokas Band both cheap

I wasn't buying soul in the 80s on account of only being 10 in 1984 so I missed all the bargains from Soul Bowl and as a result I doubt Veda will ever enter my collection.

It makes me laugh how in some circles a 45 like veda is now considered rare.

I think you will find most sensible people think its far cooler to have bought the record new because you liked it rather than now just because everyone else likes it, regardless of price at any time, its known as taste over sheep! Or maybe being a music fan rather than a vinyl fan.

Very strange logic in your sentences above.

WELL CONGRATULATIONS JOCKO !

YOU HAVE INVENTED A RATHER FINE NEW MATHEMATICAL TABULATION..........

TASTE OVER SHEEP = VERY COOL

WHICH IS BETTER THAN----

BUYING RECORDS BECAUSE THE PRICE HAS GONE UP BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN

EVERYONES INTERESTED IN THEM???????????

DOH

PS TELL YOU WHAT THOUGH....... IT STILL AINT AS COOL AS JOHN ANDERSON

IMPORTING THEM ALL YEARS AGO SO WE COULD ALL BUY A COPY FOR £3.50

WHO WAS SHOWING INTEREST THEN..??.................

did john actually pay for new releases????? or was it the old buy 2 get 3 free....i understand that was the old american one stop distribution ploy!!!

you are of course very right....he was the man!

I've picked up 2 x Sorokas 45s only last year not sure if there are any more ?

both are on the same label one credited to Sorokas and one to Sorokas Band both cheap

no other 45s under Sorokas or Sorokas Band.

i do have extras of both 45s if anyone is interested. you can hit me on the PM for info.

The time shown on the reel for Whats it all about is 5.47, so was there ever a 12" version mastered but never released ?

The time shown on the reel for Whats it all about is 5.47, so was there ever a 12" version mastered but never released ?

there was never a 12 of it just this multi-reel. honestly i never even tripped that it might be an alternate take. i got these from one of the band members and not the producer.

there was never a 12 of it just this multi-reel. honestly i never even tripped that it might be an alternate take. i got these from one of the band members and not the producer.

Hey jinx74 how ya doin? Did you get the 45 I sent?

Bought Veda as a new release from Soul Bowl back in the day unfortunately it got nicked along with a load of other stuff a few years later

Never realised it was a Bay sound.

Cheers Paul Woosnam

Hey jinx74 how ya doin? Did you get the 45 I sent?

Cheers Paul Woosnam

hey paul! just got the package a day or two ago. thanks! i still need to send that 45 out to you. lose track of stuff all the time. will drop it in the mail this week! as marvin gaye once sang "youre the man"

hey paul! as marvin gaye once sang "youre the man"

Looking forward to that 45.....could be over your way again in the fall ......letya know nearer the time.

Cheers Paul