Posted July 7, 200717 yr Found this on a hip hop cd i bought this morning in a charity shop didn't realise she'd done it! Was it issued? Derek
July 7, 200717 yr Here's a soundclip Derek don't think so , was on a motown connoisseurs cd couple of years ago
July 7, 200717 yr From DFTMC : All I Do Is Think About You (Luvel Broadnax-Clarence Paul-Stevie Wonder) publ. Jobete Stevie Wonder Produced by Clarence Paul Oct-80 Tamla LP TS373 Hotter Than July Tammi Terrell; rec 14-Jan-66 Produced by Clarence Paul 03-Jun-02 UMO CD 544 619-2 A Cellarful Of Motown [uK] Brenda Holloway; rec 24-Mar-66 Produced by Clarence Paul 07-Feb-05 Motown CD 980 765-2 The Motown Anthology [uK]
July 7, 200717 yr Gorgeous song, i've got it an old Nige Brown CD. I was told it was unissued as a 45.
July 7, 200717 yr Gorgeous song, i've got it an old Nige Brown CD. I was told it was unissued as a 45. Has Nige done a version as well? Jeez, I don't know how that one got past us all!
July 7, 200717 yr Which version are we talking about? Derek says he found it on a hip hop cd...does he mean the modern version or Tammi TERRELL? Liz(Sheridans) used to play the modern version and it escapes me who it's by...not Blackstreet but similar band???Anybody..?
July 7, 200717 yr How come we can't upload MP3S.....I know refosoul is down but thought MP3s would work? Edited July 7, 200717 yr by Reg
July 7, 200717 yr Has Nige done a version as well? Jeez, I don't know how that one got past us all! I also can't upload it for some reason.
July 7, 200717 yr Which version are we talking about? Derek says he found it on a hip hop cd...does he mean the modern version or Tammi TERRELL? Liz(Sheridans) used to play the modern version and it escapes me who it's by...not Blackstreet but similar band???Anybody..? Cleptomaniacs on Defected records from around 2000/1 ?
July 7, 200717 yr How come we can't upload MP3S.....I know refosoul is down but thought MP3s would work? Maybe you can use putfile let's see if it works : I saw her standing there Edited July 7, 200717 yr by Philippe
July 7, 200717 yr I also can't upload it for some reason. not surprised with one of his dodgy bloody c.d's
July 7, 200717 yr Which version are we talking about? Derek says he found it on a hip hop cd...does he mean the modern version or Tammi TERRELL? Liz(Sheridans) used to play the modern version and it escapes me who it's by...not Blackstreet but similar band???Anybody..? The version on the hip hop cd was the Tammi Terrell version with a rapper rapping over the first few seconds and the last few seconds. Derek
July 8, 200717 yr Cleptomaniacs on Defected records from around 2000/1 ? You know this really bugging me now...I know this version but I'm sure there's another one...it's a similar style to the Cleptomaniacs but not quite as housey if you get my meaning? I've looked on AMG and can't find it so maybe they called it something else. Or maybe I imagined it....I had some heavy nights at Sheridans
July 8, 200717 yr You know this really bugging me now...I know this version but I'm sure there's another one...it's a similar style to the Cleptomaniacs but not quite as housey if you get my meaning? I've looked on AMG and can't find it so maybe they called it something else. Or maybe I imagined it....I had some heavy nights at Sheridans Wouldn't be the Robin S version off the From Now On album would it? Also got a white label 12" version similar to the Cleptomaniacs but there's no info on it. Will dig it out later if I can find it.
July 8, 200717 yr Wouldn't be the Robin S version off the From Now On album would it? Also got a white label 12" version similar to the Cleptomaniacs but there's no info on it. Will dig it out later if I can find it. No it's not Robin S.....it's an American band similar to Blackstreet...quite well known? I'm almost certain I'm not imagining this! Edited July 8, 200717 yr by Reg
July 9, 200717 yr Just bumping this as it's still bugging me....anybody? Where's Steve Plumb when you need him.... bet he knows!
July 9, 200717 yr While I think of it, let's also not forget that the Four Tops did a cracking version of the song on their 1981 "When She Was My Girl" album on Casablanca. Would have mentioned it before but I did forget, temporarily PS - According to ASCAP, as well as those mentioned above and in this post, these people have all done the song: ALLEN & ALLEN BRYAN CHAMBERS D MOB DJ DISCIPLE DJ MAGIC MIKE FRANKIE KNUCKLES JULIUS PAPP KIRK WHALUM LYDIA PRIM MARC DORSEY MASTERSTEPZ PROPHET JONES RANDY CRAWFORD WENDY MOTEN ...perm any one from ten, then! Edited July 9, 200717 yr by TONY ROUNCE
July 9, 200717 yr The version that got played a bit was Kirk Whalum's from his For You CD. As you probably know Kirk is a sax player but the lady on vocals was Wendy Moten. Stuart
July 9, 200717 yr While I think of it, let's also not forget that the Four Tops did a cracking version of the song on their 1981 "When She Was My Girl" album on Casablanca. Would have mentioned it before but I did forget, temporarily PS - According to ASCAP, as well as those mentioned above and in this post, these people have all done the song: ALLEN & ALLEN BRYAN CHAMBERS D MOB DJ DISCIPLE DJ MAGIC MIKE FRANKIE KNUCKLES JULIUS PAPP KIRK WHALUM LYDIA PRIM MARC DORSEY MASTERSTEPZ PROPHET JONES RANDY CRAWFORD WENDY MOTEN ...perm any one from ten, then! None of them! I promise you...it will all be revealed once my elusive memory kicks in. Or Cunnie finds that white label, possibly
July 9, 200717 yr Actually I can see mr Sadot logged on...maybe if he reads this thread he will remember as he was a Sheridans stalwart and has heard this record played there..maybe his memory's better than mine...but possibly a bit too modern for him Don't worry I'll give up soon! Edited July 9, 200717 yr by Reg
March 18, 200916 yr Just found this topic as another thread reminded me. I think I remember Paul getting back to me now and confirming it was Blackstreet....if anybody is interested , lol
March 18, 200916 yr When versions like the Tammi Terrell one only get released on CD it tends to dent the OVO argument IMHO. It's a real shame that because of the "rules" tunes like this will never get the audience & acclaim they deserve.
March 18, 200916 yr When versions like the Tammi Terrell one only get released on CD it tends to dent the OVO argument IMHO. It's a real shame that because of the "rules" tunes like this will never get the audience & acclaim they deserve. I have it on a 7 inch carver and if anyone told me I was doing wrong if I played it out they would be met with a resounding 'f*** off' Like i've explained on the other thread...i'm all for OVO and this is the only one I have in my box... but if the record isn't released in the first place then the only way you can play it out is by making one up...simple as that...and i'd rather a brilliant record be played out as a carver than not be played out at all because it never had an official release, if people would look down on that then they seriously need to get a life IMO. Edited March 18, 200916 yr by Beeks
March 18, 200916 yr When versions like the Tammi Terrell one only get released on CD it tends to dent the OVO argument IMHO. It's a real shame that because of the "rules" tunes like this will never get the audience & acclaim they deserve. Play it on the original format - ie the CD I bet it would sound better than off a boot. I know that I've heard that Gladys Knight record that's on the same Motown compilation played out on a carver/boot whatever (if you ever get your hands on love) and it sounds absolutely dreadful.
March 18, 200916 yr Play it on the original format - ie the CD I bet it would sound better than off a boot. I know that I've heard that Gladys Knight record that's on the same Motown compilation played out on a carver/boot whatever (if you ever get your hands on love) and it sounds absolutely dreadful. The carver I have is crystal clear...brilliant recording and has been played out countless times to a full dancefloor I would rather slit my own wrists than play a CD out...besides...wouldn't even know how to cue one up...most of my mates who DJ the Manchester club scene use Pioneer CD turntables these days but i've always been a purist...vinyl or nothing for me
March 18, 200916 yr The carver I have is crystal clear...brilliant recording and has been played out countless times to a full dancefloor I would rather slit my own wrists than play a CD out...besides...wouldn't even know how to cue one up...most of my mates who DJ the Manchester club scene use Pioneer CD turntables these days but i've always been a purist...vinyl or nothing for me Ha ha, I was just playing....Cds are pants, hate the things...they f**k up/scratch easier than records! And they look rubbish too You obviously haven't heard the Gladys Knight one though.... Which is a damn shame as the track is great but the sound quality on Mr K's copy (not naming names of course) is very very poor! I have a white label of Stormy that admittedly sounds great
March 18, 200916 yr hi Derek Here it is on a 45, cost me £3, has been discussed on here before, Catch up soon! cheers Sutty
March 18, 200916 yr hi Derek Here it is on a 45, cost me £3, has been discussed on here before, Catch up soon! cheers Sutty That is a boot though innit? She didn't release anything on Tamla and it's not in the listings. The only legit release is a CD as with the Brenda Holloway I believe.... Ian D
March 18, 200916 yr That is a boot though innit? She didn't release anything on Tamla and it's not in the listings. The only legit release is a CD as with the Brenda Holloway I believe.... Ian D It is a boot yeah...a fancier one than mine...but a boot nonetheless
March 18, 200916 yr To me OVO should mean just that.................. not OVO but I can play the odd carver or two. Once people take the high moral ground about original vinyl that is where they must then stay. Anybody IMHO who pays to have a piece of music copied onto an acetate or carver has broken their own code of conduct & is not in any position to criticise anybody else who doesn't happen to play OVO.
March 18, 200916 yr None of them! Also Stevie Wonder's own version of the song, which was on the Hotter Than July Lp I think?
March 18, 200916 yr None of them! Also Stevie Wonder's own version of the song, which was on the Hotter Than July Lp I think? And the 'b' side of Stevie's "That Girl" UK 7"........... Ian D
March 18, 200916 yr To me OVO should mean just that.................. not OVO but I can play the odd carver or two. Once people take the high moral ground about original vinyl that is where they must then stay. Anybody IMHO who pays to have a piece of music copied onto an acetate or carver has broken their own code of conduct & is not in any position to criticise anybody else who doesn't happen to play OVO. What? Even if it's never been released?! You talk some utter bollocks sometimes...seriously
March 18, 200916 yr What? Even if it's never been released?! You talk some utter bollocks sometimes...seriously I didn't make the rules about OVO - other people do that. To help me understand (& so as not to talk some utter bollocks) please explain to me why it is acceptable to play a carver (bootleg) & not okay to play a legally released CD track. If anybody can give me a definitive answer to this question I will graciously concede to their better knowledge.
March 18, 200916 yr I didn't make the rules about OVO - other people do that. To help me understand (& so as not to talk some utter bollocks) please explain to me why it is acceptable to play a carver (bootleg) & not okay to play a legally released CD track. If anybody can give me a definitive answer to this question I will graciously concede to their better knowledge. We are talking about Tammi Terrell in this thread...it never got an official release...as has beren stated...So what I can gather from what you're saying...is that if it hasn't had an official release then it can't be played out at all? Am I right? Because judging by your last post that's exactly what you're saying My view is clear...if you can buy it on Original Vinyl then get it...if it HAS NEVER BEEN RELEASED on Original vinyl then if you want to hear it in a club there is no other option than to make a boot of it...simple as that.
March 18, 200916 yr I didn't make the rules about OVO - other people do that. To help me understand (& so as not to talk some utter bollocks) please explain to me why it is acceptable to play a carver (bootleg) & not okay to play a legally released CD track. If anybody can give me a definitive answer to this question I will graciously concede to their better knowledge. I was trying to make the same point on the 'snob' thread but didn't put it as succinct as you Edited March 18, 200916 yr by johnm
March 18, 200916 yr My view is clear...if you can buy it on Original Vinyl then get it...if it HAS NEVER BEEN RELEASED on Original vinyl then if you want to hear it in a club there is no other option than to make a boot of it...simple as that. So the official legitimate CD release being played out by you is out of the question then Beeks? Ian D
March 18, 200916 yr We are talking about Tammi Terrell in this thread...it never got an official release...as has beren stated...So what I can gather from what you're saying...is that if it hasn't had an official release then it can't be played out at all? Am I right? Because judging by your last post that's exactly what you're saying My view is clear...if you can buy it on Original Vinyl then get it...if it HAS NEVER BEEN RELEASED on Original vinyl then if you want to hear it in a club there is no other option than to make a boot of it...simple as that. First off, at no point in my postings have I said it can't be played out. I really don't want to sound like a radical but let me make a completely off the wall suggestion ........................... play the CD!!!! That way it DOES get played out & to make things even better you can play it in it's only official, legal release format. - Motown see the popularity of these CDs thus releasing more previously unissued gems for us all to enjoy You don't have to buy a carver or play a boot - everybody's happy!!!
March 18, 200916 yr First off, at no point in my postings have I said it can't be played out. I really don't want to sound like a radical but let me make a completely off the wall suggestion ........................... play the CD!!!! That way it DOES get played out & to make things even better you can play it in it's only official, legal release format. - Motown see the popularity of these CDs thus releasing more previously unissued gems for us all to enjoy You don't have to buy a carver or play a boot - everybody's happy!!! That would seem to be a hell of a lot easier than making your own bootleg. What's to think about.........? Ian D
March 18, 200916 yr So the official legitimate CD release being played out by you is out of the question then Beeks? Ian D I've been a DJ since I was 17...i'm now 35 nearly 36...and in all that time I have never once played a CD in any of my sets and don't intend to start now
March 18, 200916 yr I've been a DJ since I was 17...i'm now 35 nearly 36...and in all that time I have never once played a CD in any of my sets and don't intend to start now My God Beeks. For one so young and relatively untainted you're very quickly succumbing to that stubborn attitude that usually engulfs people twice your age and is particularly prevalent on this scene. You'll be telling me you still wear oxford bags and patch jumpers next........... Ian D
March 18, 200916 yr My God Beeks. For one so young and relatively untainted you're very quickly succumbing to that stubborn attitude that usually engulfs people twice your age and is particularly prevalent on this scene. You'll be telling me you still wear oxford bags and patch jumpers next........... Ian D Nah...like I said Ian...couldn't give a hoot what anyone else does...I just happen to have got the collecting bug and enjoy buying original vinyl...different strokes for different folks that's what I say
March 18, 200916 yr OVO, with regards to Tammi T, If beeks gets a carver done, then that is OVO, as it does not exist except on CD. It's not a boot of an OVO if no OVO exists! I totally agree with getting quality unreleased gems like this carved, if only for the fact that many venues don't have the facility to play a CD anyhow..... PS. If you buy the CD, then get a cut done, you aren't ripping any artists off if you don't sell the cuts made from it. You can legitimately make one copy I believe. Similarly, if you paid 79p to buy it from iTunes, you can burn a few copies before they block up. So what's the diff from copying it to CD or vinyl? PPS I am a total OVO Snob, but where no OVO exists...... Does someone have to drag in a reel-to-reel tape player 'cos they only have the studio tape? Edited March 18, 200916 yr by Trevski
March 18, 200916 yr None of them! I promise you...it will all be revealed once my elusive memory kicks in. Or Cunnie finds that white label, possibly TEDDY RILEY per chance
March 18, 200916 yr PPS I am a total OVO Snob, but where no OVO exists...... Does someone have to drag in a reel-to-reel tape player 'cos they only have the studio tape? Quality concept...get hold of the original mastertapes and play them only...even better than OVO
March 18, 200916 yr PPS I am a total OVO Snob, but where no OVO exists...... Does someone have to drag in a reel-to-reel tape player 'cos they only have the studio tape? Surely those two words kind of defeat any argument you may have - OVO is what it is - ORIGINAL VINYL ONLY !!
March 18, 200916 yr Surely those two words kind of defeat any argument you may have - OVO is what it is - ORIGINAL VINYL ONLY !! FFS!! So if something doesn't exist on vinyl, has never existed on vinyl, it cannot be played at all, because it never existed on original vinyl? Tell that to the guy's who got the studio tape of Kae Williams, and had cuts made; or Adey who got unreleased tapes from RCA and had cuts done to play at the 100 club! The thing does not exist on vinyl!!! Ergo, ANY vinyl cut made from the Cd or tape is the original i.e. first, vinyl it has ever existed on! If anything appears on vinyl for the fist time ever, is it not original vinyl? Not gonna argue the toss over this anymore, some folk on here would argue black is f**king white just for the sake of it. (Either that or they are genuinely thick)
March 18, 200916 yr Not gonna argue the toss over this anymore, some folk on here would argue black is f**king white just for the sake of it. (Either that or they are genuinely thick) I'd guess the latter Trev Looking sharp btw
Found this on a hip hop cd i bought this morning in a charity shop didn't realise she'd done it!
Was it issued?
Derek