I was just thinking, I wonder how many of our beloved tunes be it rare, semi known etc actually made the charts, either here or in the states, anybody know?

I was just thinking, I wonder how many of our beloved tunes be it rare, semi known etc actually made the charts, either here or in the states, anybody know?

Jimmy Radcliffe's " LATIAO " made the UK charts at the time of its' first release .......

Malc Burton

I was talking to another record hound today about this....

Mandrill -Too late, Futures - Party Time Man, Ace Spectrum, Brown Sugar... all sold well enough to chart at the time of release - some of which were on the charts for MONTHS

I was talking to another record hound today about this....

Mandrill -Too late, Futures - Party Time Man, Ace Spectrum, Brown Sugar... all sold well enough to chart at the time of release - some of which were on the charts for MONTHS

one early northern tune that made the American charts was 'Thats the Tune' by the Vogues, but there must lots of others?

Tami Lynn - top 3, The Tams - No 1, Archie Bell - Here I Go Again - top 10, yeah there's quite a lot, Ghost In My House top 5..

if were talking pop charts in the usa.heres a few that made the hot 100

pentagons - i wonder - jamie

ace spectrum - dont send nobody else - atlantic

carl carlton - competition aint nothing - backbeat

spyder turner - i cant make it anymore - mgm

parliaments - dont be sore at me - revilot

darrell banks - both revilot 45s

pop by the buckinghams, spiral starecase

get out by harold melvin bubbled under

if were talking soul charts the list is endless, jesse james. beloyd, prince philip mitchell

betty swann......rare issues my arse i could go on all night but im off to annesley

dave

heres a few us hits,

barbara acklin- love makes a woman # 15

darrell banks-open the door #27

len barry -123 #2

william bell-trying to love 2 #10

bobby bland -call on me# 22

jerry butler-moody woman #24

gene chandler-nothin can stop me #18

cornelious bros-too late to turn #2

intrigues -in a moment #31

bob kuban-the cheater#12

alton mclain-it must be love #32

magnetics-i have a girl #3

cliff nobles-the horse#2

okaysions-girl watcher #5

got bored looking through the billboard book of us top 40 hits

the night,f/valli,

harlem shuffle,bob+earl,

my man,millie jackson,

boogaloo party,flamingos,

love on a mountain top,r knight,

under my thumb,wgibson,

plus all the black magic/spark/tamla motown stuff

what a difference a day makes,esther phillips,

i go to pieces,gerri grainger nearly charted????

Don't know how it worked in the States, but here in the U.K. the charts were (at least partly) based on sales in a number of so-called "chart return" shops, spread across the land, where sales of singles were assiduously and correctly recorded.

If records sold shedloads in non-chart return shops, they probably didn't make it into the charts at all. Full stop. This was typical of sales of Reggae tunes and Soul too, I suspect.

However, once momentum over a tune gathered the generally radio-friendliness of Northern Soul / Soul tunes might eventually get airplay and subsequent chart placing...a number of good examples listed above.

Edited January 12, 200817 yr by ZapatootheTiger

Don't know how it worked in the States, but here in the U.K. the charts were (at least partly) based on sales in a number of so-called "chart return" shops, spread across the land, where sales of singles were assiduously and correctly recorded.

If records sold shedloads in non-chart return shops, they probably didn't make it into the charts at all. Full stop. This was typical of sales of Reggae tunes and Soul too, I suspect.

However, once momentum over a tune gathered the generally radio-friendliness of Northern Soul / Soul tunes might eventually get airplay and subsequent chart placing...a number of good examples listed above.

Weren't regional sales discounted in some way too, which stopped a lot more getting higher.

one early northern tune that made the American charts was 'Thats the Tune' by the Vogues, but there must lots of others?

Probberly the worst thing they have done,truely awfull

Longest no 1 in US "tossin`and turnin`,brobberly one of the most covered songs ever.

heres a few us hits,

magnetics-i have a girl #3

got bored looking through the billboard book of us top 40 hits

ya must have got well bored looking thru' ya pop books and found this in the charts .

bri pinch.

Don't know how it worked in the States, but here in the U.K. the charts were (at least partly) based on sales in a number of so-called "chart return" shops, spread across the land, where sales of singles were assiduously and correctly recorded.

If records sold shedloads in non-chart return shops, they probably didn't make it into the charts at all. Full stop. This was typical of sales of Reggae tunes and Soul too, I suspect.

However, once momentum over a tune gathered the generally radio-friendliness of Northern Soul / Soul tunes might eventually get airplay and subsequent chart placing...a number of good examples listed above.

Having worked in a 'diary shop' which later became a 'Gallup shop', the system was pretty much open to abuse. In the days of the diary, you had to hand write every single sold into a 'diary' which was sent off to the chart compilers every week. I leave it to your imagination to work out that if your stock bag supply showed 50 received (in some instances, all Free Of Charge) and 50 entered into the diary, it would mean that you'd (in theory) sold 50 copies that week. Before barcoding, there was very little way of showing that 50 singles sold on a Saturday weren't the 50 that you had claimed to have sold (and omitted to enter 50 other 45rpms in the diary that you had sold to take up the slack in the till) - but it wouldn't have been so obviously. 1 or 2 copies of a desired single would be slipped through the system. I had someone from Gallup come to the shop in the 8Ts and remove the machine and stock bag and audit my returns....the 12" in question was Freddie Jackson 'Rock me tonight' - I had sold over 100 copies in a Saturday - I didn't play anything else all day plus I and several other local djs were spinning it on import before the UK release. The woman from Gallup was stumped - all above board Record label reps would try and enter numbers into the Gallup machine when they popped in the shop for their weekly visit - but you could remove the inputs after they'd walked out of the door Oh happy days.....

Edited January 13, 200817 yr by vinylvixen

JUST HAD A QUICK LOOK THRU MY CHART BOOKS AND FOUND;

JOHNNIE TAYLOR - ROME (WASN'T BUILT IN A DAY) - BUBBLED UNDER # 112 6/62.

HYPNOTICS - BEWARE OF THE STRANGER - BUBBLED UNDER #115 4/73.

GALE GARNETT - I'LL CRY ALONE - BUBBLED UNDER #108 4/64.

GLADYS KNIGHT - STOP AND GET A HOLD OF MYSELF - BUBBLED UNDER #123 3/65.

" " " " - JUST WALK IN MY SHOES - BUBBLED UNDER #129 7/66.

BILLY BUTLER - FOUND TRUE LOVE - BUBBLED UNDER #134 11/63.

CROSSROADS - COMING HOME TO YOU BABY - BUBBLED UNDER #115 9/70.

DON GARDNER - MY BABY LIKES TO BOOGALOO -BUBBLED UNDER #126 12/66.

MAMIE GALORE - IT AIN'T NECESSARY -BUBBLED UNDER #132 4/66.

BARBARA RANDOLPH - I GOT A FEELING - BUBBLED UNDER #116 10/67.

ACCENTS - NEW GIRL - BUBBLED UNDER #128 8/64.

THERESA LINDSEY - GOTTA FIND A WAY - BUBBLED UNDER #129 2/64.

CHRISTINE COOPER - S.O.S (HEART IN DISTRESS) - BUBBLED UNDER #101 2/66.

JAY AND THE AMERICANS - GOT HUNG UP ALONG THE WAY BUBBLED UNDER #131 8/67.

AND THAT'S JUST A QUICK TEN MINUTES LOOKING THRU' MA BUBBLING UNDER BOOK, ANYWAY...BORED NOW, JUST GOT BACK IN FROM ANNERSLEY AM OFF TO BED .

BRI PINCH.

JUST HAD A QUICK LOOK THRU MY CHART BOOKS AND FOUND;

JOHNNIE TAYLOR - ROME (WASN'T BUILT IN A DAY) - BUBBLED UNDER # 112 6/62.

HYPNOTICS - BEWARE OF THE STRANGER - BUBBLED UNDER #115 4/73.

GALE GARNETT - I'LL CRY ALONE - BUBBLED UNDER #108 4/64.

GLADYS KNIGHT - STOP AND GET A HOLD OF MYSELF - BUBBLED UNDER #123 3/65.

" " " " - JUST WALK IN MY SHOES - BUBBLED UNDER #129 7/66.

BILLY BUTLER - FOUND TRUE LOVE - BUBBLED UNDER #134 11/63.

CROSSROADS - COMING HOME TO YOU BABY - BUBBLED UNDER #115 9/70.

DON GARDNER - MY BABY LIKES TO BOOGALOO -BUBBLED UNDER #126 12/66.

MAMIE GALORE - IT AIN'T NECESSARY -BUBBLED UNDER #132 4/66.

BARBARA RANDOLPH - I GOT A FEELING - BUBBLED UNDER #116 10/67.

ACCENTS - NEW GIRL - BUBBLED UNDER #128 8/64.

THERESA LINDSEY - GOTTA FIND A WAY - BUBBLED UNDER #129 2/64.

CHRISTINE COOPER - S.O.S (HEART IN DISTRESS) - BUBBLED UNDER #101 2/66.

JAY AND THE AMERICANS - GOT HUNG UP ALONG THE WAY BUBBLED UNDER #131 8/67.

AND THAT'S JUST A QUICK TEN MINUTES LOOKING THRU' MA BUBBLING UNDER BOOK, ANYWAY...BORED NOW, JUST GOT BACK IN FROM ANNERSLEY AM OFF TO BED .

BRI PINCH.

How come everytime i see "the crossroads" its £50+ i used to play it,now i cant afford to replaice it musy say tho`i have never seen it on the Bubbing under label usualy on Acto,local issue`s are they.

ya must have got well bored looking thru' ya pop books and found this in the charts .

bri pinch.

jusk checking who would notice notice that one well spotted

Most people have gatherd what UK charts was and most of which was top 75 based and so on. many re-issued song entering the charts.

I do however have Billboard hot 100, bubbling under and R & B chart books and as far as i go there was hundreds of Northern soul songs that charted. They just had some idea of what they brought hopefully charted.

But here are some which i not sure have been mentioned

star next to song indicates R & B hit as much as hot 100

Sam cooke - Sugar dumpling*

Otis Redding - Love Man*

Gloria Taylor - You Gotta Pay The Price*

Darrell Banks - Open The Door To Your Heart*

Robert Parker - Barefootin*

The Impressions - You've Been Cheating*

Candy and the Kisses - the 81*

The Capitols - Cool Jerk*

Sam and Dave - Soothe Me*

The Fascinations - Girls Are Out to Get You*

There is also no listing of any Dean Parrish hits and many other artists who had Northern soul hits even though they seemed popular

Considering how gritty the tune is, one of the most suprising tunes that charted on the Billboard pop list is Jimmy Robbins "I Can't Please You" on Jerhart. It made #131 on the POP chart and #21 on the r&b chart.

did "Tightrope"-Inez and Charlie Foxx chart in the UK around the Wheel days? '67?

heres a few us hits,

barbara acklin- love makes a woman # 15

darrell banks-open the door #27

len barry -123 #2

william bell-trying to love 2 #10

bobby bland -call on me# 22

jerry butler-moody woman #24

gene chandler-nothin can stop me #18

cornelious bros-too late to turn #2

intrigues -in a moment #31

bob kuban-the cheater#12

alton mclain-it must be love #32

magnetics-i have a girl #3

cliff nobles-the horse#2

okaysions-girl watcher #5

got bored looking through the billboard book of us top 40 hits

If the Magnetics charted, why does it command the big money we all know it does

Bazza

Casanova and love town,masive on pop and nsoul scene.

If the Magnetics charted, why does it command the big money we all know it does

Bazza

it never charted i put it in the list as a joke after lotts of red wine, all the est in the list are genuine though

it never charted i put it in the list as a joke after lotts of red wine, all the est in the list are genuine though

oh, had me going there

Bazza