will hatcher - wheelsville

Many thanks Mossy !!!

 

Mossy, I`ve had experience of this myself recently....

I was always lead to believe that the originals were a definate blue colour and had a piano intro...they are certainly the ones i`ve been selling as originals over the last couple of years! The other pressing (I believe it to be legit) has no piano intro and it a greeny/ blue label. I have sold about 10 copies of this in the last year and i asked my source about the "green" one and he says the blue is the original. For the record there are no more copies...I have one more to list plus my own.

The value according to Johns book is 100 and 30 respectively.

Chris

Mossy, I`ve had experience of this myself recently....

I was always lead to believe that the originals were a definate blue colour and had a piano intro...they are certainly the ones i`ve been selling as originals over the last couple of years! The other pressing (I believe it to be legit) has no piano intro and it a greeny/ blue label. I have sold about 10 copies of this in the last year and i asked my source about the "green" one and he says the blue is the original. For the record there are no more copies...I have one more to list plus my own.

The value according to Johns book is 100 and 30 respectively.

Chris

Right, so my copy, not having the piano intro is a green issue (even if it looks blue) ? Could you post the version with the piano intro for me and a scan of the label ?

Demanding as always, but it would clear this question up for me ?

Thanks big man!

i have a copy of the version above and i always thought it was a second or third issue

there are blue copies with a piano intro but ive ever seen it. anyone confirm

but there is definately a green copy. looks the same but green and not greeny blue

dave

i have a copy of the version above and i always thought it was a second or third issue

there are blue copies with a piano intro but ive ever seen it. anyone confirm

but there is definately a green copy. looks the same but green and not greeny blue

dave

My copy is light blue with the piano intro and its a first issue. Wasnt Voices something to do with the second pressing?

i bot green copy of my m8 for £5.didnt have piano intro.

so bot the light blue off jm for £50 couple of year back,thinking it had the piano intro.it didnt(sent it back).

have seen the 1st copy?,for sale with the piano intro(also sounds a diff mix to me) for £75/100.light blue i think.

i bot green copy of my m8 for £5.didnt have piano intro.

so bot the light blue off jm for £50 couple of year back,thinking it had the piano intro.it didnt(sent it back).

have seen the 1st copy?,for sale with the piano intro(also sounds a diff mix to me) for £75/100.light blue i think.

I thought there was the original blue (which this scan is off, my green one is dark green and very different to scan) with and without piano intro also Steve, sure this has been documented in one of the fanzines but can't remember which one.

Jock

I thought there was the original blue (which this scan is off, my green one is dark green and very different to scan) with and without piano intro also Steve, sure this has been documented in one of the fanzines but can't remember which one.

Jock

So is mine an original blue issue without intro?

This scans is from a well known dealer and its on his site at the moment for 100 quid and it is exactly the same as mine ??

If you put them side by side every little mark and the small print mistakes are Identical !

Anyone help further?

Edited April 3, 200817 yr by mossy

Mossy, I`ve had experience of this myself recently....

I was always lead to believe that the originals were a definate blue colour and had a piano intro...they are certainly the ones i`ve been selling as originals over the last couple of years! The other pressing (I believe it to be legit) has no piano intro and it a greeny/ blue label. I have sold about 10 copies of this in the last year and i asked my source about the "green" one and he says the blue is the original. For the record there are no more copies...I have one more to list plus my own.

The value according to Johns book is 100 and 30 respectively.

Chris

I'm sure we've had this discussion before on here, last year. As far as I know, the originals are sky blue with (strong) black type, not the "smudged/photocopied-looking" type as above, or green label. I say this because I bought a copy "blind" from Ady Pountain on his return from Detroit C.1982, long before it got widely popular. (I believe the record was bootlegged following spins at Thorne in the mid-90s, so the 'Voices from the Shadows' connection is probably correct)

I notice however that Pat Brady currently has - what I took to be - a "re-issue" copy currently in auction @£100, and it is significantly different to my own copy which, as I say, has much cleaner/blacker lettering and with the blue label more even in colour and slightly darker (altogether sharper looking)

(Will re-post scan of label design - when I can find the disc it's on!)

Edited April 3, 200817 yr by mel brat

The scan above is definitely of the second issue. As Mel says, the crucial thing when buying an original of this (without hearing it) is the quality of the printing of the black type. On an original it should be strong with no fading as shown above.

Steve G has an acetate of another mix entirely, which sounds very good when played out.

The scan above is definitely of the second issue. As Mel says, the crucial thing when buying an original of this (without hearing it) is the quality of the printing of the black type. On an original it should be strong with no fading as shown above.

Steve G has an acetate of another mix entirely, which sounds very good when played out.

Yup, beefed up for national release on Wand which never quite happened. The originals are from 75-76.

Piano Intro, original

Edited April 3, 200817 yr by Dave Thorley

Piano Intro, original

That's the baby! More of a sky blue with clear black type.

2nd issue is 'greeny blue' with smudgier black type!

Easy!

Cheers

Steve

That's the baby! More of a sky blue with clear black type.

2nd issue is 'greeny blue' with smudgier black type!

Easy!

Cheers

Steve

Thanks Guys - Clear on this now !

That's the baby! More of a sky blue with clear black type.

2nd issue is 'greeny blue' with smudgier black type!

Cheers

Steve

Tch!, and I spent ages today looking for my scan! Ah well... Anyway, here's the copy I mentioned as further comparison;

Edited April 3, 200817 yr by mel brat