Being one of the younger soulies im all for a younger crowd coming onto he scene. This is happening at new century and steve cato's out of sight night but i think that in order to get them interested promoters need to look at their target areas. The only way you can find out about a soul night/all nighter is by picking up a flyer at another night, or through websites like this.

Last sat me and a friend flyered for Chris Waterman for the once uopn a ..... night and we gave them to people we thought would like it.

The flyers weren't the best but we managed to get a few coming in. I watched a group of four lads in their mid 20's just sit down with a pint and didn't take their eyes off the dance floor as though they could'nt believe a night like that existed. I had a chat to them later on and they loved it and said they'd be down for the nighter.

But on the flipside, do the older gang want this to happen, ie, people getting in the way and not understanding the unwritten rules of the dance floor, or are the same people willing to show them the ropes and explain the do's and donts in order for the music to live on.

All my mates love the CIS and now come every month and thats just through me telling them about it. So if the younger crowd were targetted with flyers or posters IMO it would benefit the world of northern soul and give people the chance to hear the best music in the world.

What does everyone think?

I read that and have to agree with him.  Have seen youngsters having a reet old laugh at the attire of some folk at soul nights........

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Theres a thread a little further down this section about youngsters on the scene and the general consensus seems to be that they need encouraging if the scene is to survive more than ten years.

I wonder what a youngster thinks when he walks into a venue for the first time and sees an article such as you've described????

they get there camera phones out laughing there heads of and sending it round to all there mates, ive seen it done

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You only got a year or so to do this though chalky as your close tot he big 40

   

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just a year or so less than you

I fink I know the answer   

1, Find a venu

2, Book your DJ's, all of which have to have discovered or broken at least 5 records in the past 10 years, and don't play a record which has been played by another DJ in the past 12 months, under £30 is a bonus and gets them the best spot

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Maybe you should take up promoting Janine

so ban circle skirts and baggies and play some funk, do you really think that is going to attract younger people (apart from Shane that is)

Would lifeline turn someone away if they turned up in those clothes?

just a year or so less than you   

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Bas**rd

For a start what would Karen say if I sat in a car park with you?  

As far as the clothes go, I am recounting what youngsters have said to me.....have a look at what Baz posted on the "beer towel" thread

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The scene is about music not clothing. If a youngster says something like "I can't come here again, he's got baggy trousers on, and what's with the beer towel" then I really don't think said youngster is 'getting' it, and good riddance.

If he/she says this music is fantastic and it really moves me, then this person is someone to be cultivated, cos he/she will adapt and get over petty things like what someone is wearing

Winnie:-)

so ban circle skirts and baggies and play some funk, do you really think that is going to attract younger people (apart from Shane that is) 

Would lifeline turn someone away if they turned up in those clothes?

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Who said owt about ban them? not me. Lifeline played soul on the funky side though

I have a right old laugh at some of the attire, mostly Winston's shirts although he has improved since Matt moved out and he doenst think he's a 21 year old anymore 

Bring back the ra ra skirts

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Oi shut it 'matalan Mary'

so ban circle skirts and baggies and play some funk, do you really think that is going to attract younger people (apart from Shane that is) 

Would lifeline turn someone away if they turned up in those clothes?

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Who said owt about ban them?  not me.  Lifeline played soul on the funky side though 

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Lifeline is all about what Winstons says...the music..but it's progressive soul and not the same old same. Lifeline has proved that you can play something different and fill the dance floor.

Maybe you should take up promoting Janine 

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I thought she only promoted Janine

mememememe :-)

Who said owt about ban them?  not me.  Lifeline played soul on the funky side though 

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Which is a good thing IMO, but still doubt whether it would attract lots of younger people.

QUOTE(Dave @ May 15 2005, 07:19 PM)

Theres a thread a little further down this section about youngsters on the scene and the general consensus seems to be that they need encouraging if the scene is to survive more than ten years.

I wonder what a youngster thinks when he walks into a venue for the first time and sees an article such as you've described????

they get there camera phones out laughing there heads of and sending it round to all there mates, ive seen it done

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As Janine said there aren't a proliferation of soulies wearing bags, vests etc, but there are some. All this thread will do is make them self consious about going out, and whether they are being laughed at. I would like to re-iterate, this scene has always been about acceptance providing the music is being appreciated, if youngsters are coming along and doing as Baz said, then they're IMO not welcome, because they obviously don't understand the cameraderie.

Winnie:-)

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The scene is about music not clothing. If a youngster says something like "I can't come here again, he's got baggy trousers on, and what's with the beer towel" then I really don't think said youngster is 'getting' it, and good riddance.

If he/she says this music is fantastic and it really moves me, then this person is someone to be cultivated, cos he/she will adapt and get over petty things like what someone is wearing

Winnie:-)

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If it's just about music and not clothing, why do people wear garments to soul nights that they would not wear in the pub or at a birthday party?

I'm not sure that there are enough youngsters showing an initial interest for us to decide who to cultivate and who to reject

As I see it, the most important point is that if we don't soon start to attract some new blood the scene will start to decline in ....what? Five years time?

Dave

If it's just about music and not clothing, why do people wear garments to soul nights that they would not wear in the pub or at a birthday party?

I'm not sure that there are enough youngsters showing an initial interest for us to decide who to cultivate and who to reject

As I see it, the most important point is that if we don't soon start to attract some new blood the scene will start to decline in ....what? Five years time?

Dave

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Hmmm the logical next step is that if this new blood laughs at the way someone dances, which I've witnessed a few times, then the dancer in question should hang up his/her shoes for fear of frightening away the youngsters.

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Dave,

If the point of the post was to promote forward thinking, then that's what it should stick to. To either generalise or sensationalise a post by writing something like "a old fat crinkly spiking their drink and getting raped", is just colouring the real issue, and in my view offensive. If you/I anybody writes something we're responsible for it surely. It's all about wording, and this forum is open to the public to read...personally I don't want to be associated with James's tag, do you?

James's age by the way, has nothing to do with it, I mentioned it, because it was the easiest way to illustrate how easily offence can be caused.

Winnie:-)

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f*** off Winnie you fat old crinkly haired twat

I'm not a promoter, but I'm willing to learn what I can by attending Soul Clubs full of 20 year old Swedish girls     

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tell you what i'll help in any way posible to get this going can i do searches on the door

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f*** off Winnie you fat old crinkly haired twat    

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You're probably right, I'd better fu** off, the youngsters can't handle crinkly hair, and as they're our future.............

Dave/Chalky and whoever else, why do you want new blood on the scene, and what is it you want these younger people to actually do for the scene? Your taking about getting them in by playing different things to what we are listening to now in club's, so why not just go and open a completely new night playing that instead? It won't be what's kept this scene going for so many years

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As Janine said there aren't a proliferation of soulies wearing bags, vests etc, but there are some. All this thread will do is make them self consious about going out, and whether they are being laughed at. I would like to re-iterate, this scene has always been about acceptance providing the music is being appreciated, if youngsters are coming along and doing as Baz said, then they're IMO not welcome, because they obviously don't understand the cameraderie.

Winnie:-)

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when i whitnessed that, there was a group of them all my age and was at the do not out of curiosity or wanting to try some thing differnt they were there for other reasons and doubt they would come back

Youngsters are the next oldies, the scene will always continue !! I started collecting soul music when I was about 14, I'm now 67. I was also one of the youngsters at the Twisted Wheel, Catacombs,  Harisons hoist, the Top twenty club, etc etc. Youngsters are the life blood of the continuing soul scene. We would be dead without them, and as for teaching etietiquette, the scene will evolve to be their scene and it will be what they want , just as ours was what we wanted !

KTF 

PAUL JAMES.