JUST COME ACROSS THIS ON PINK RED COACH. I KNOW DEMOS HAVE A STERLING STAMP.HOW DO YOU TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REAL PINK ONES AND BOOTS.

CHEERS@97

JUST COME ACROSS THIS ON PINK RED COACH. I KNOW DEMOS HAVE A STERLING STAMP.HOW DO YOU TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REAL PINK ONES AND BOOTS.

CHEERS@97

Which one?

Which one?

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THE PINK ONE

it was the white demo that was booted

it was the white demo that was booted

there is a few goodies by em`,and i wouldnt want to guess it wrong.

it was the white demo that was booted

APPARENTLY NOT SO J.M.'s SITE SAYS DIFFERENT.

it was the white demo that was booted

Are you sure about that?I seem to remember the pink issues(if in doubt) as being the ones to avoid ?

no, i am not sure about it - i blame JM ;-)

the whites were the boots

just got the real deal pink one mint for £40 form an old mecca type

seeeee, i blame ockers ;-)

the whites were the boots

just got the real deal pink one mint for £40 form an old mecca type

the pink issue was booted also,I know about white demos.How do you know it's real

From what I remember from the time it was never actually released at the time but a few of white sterling stamped demos turned up.

After demand was created it turned up as a legitamate release on the pink label without the sterling stamp.

The white demos without the sterling stamp are the definate boots/pressings.

All the best

Pete

the pink issue was booted also,I know about white demos.How do you know it's real

The pink was not booted. The only real original is the white demo, the pink ones were pressed up due to demand from the UK. The white demo was booted but has Sterling Sound scratched in instead of stamped and the sound quality is poor. Not poor enough to drown out this apalling cacophony though

just as i thought - but the only original issue - even if pressed for demand is the pink one - ok second best to the propa demo.

i blame pete smith

The pink was not booted. The only real original is the white demo, the pink ones were pressed up due to demand from the UK. The white demo was booted but has Sterling Sound scratched in instead of stamped and the sound quality is poor. Not poor enough to drown out this apalling cacophony though

you love it really,pete.

got nowt to do with the subject,but sydney bridge is only a sad copy of the tyne bridge,

The pink was not booted. The only real original is the white demo, the pink ones were pressed up due to demand from the UK. The white demo was booted but has Sterling Sound scratched in instead of stamped and the sound quality is poor. Not poor enough to drown out this apalling cacophony though

I'd like to take issue with the above. Appalling has two "P"'s.

Actually Pete I do have the white Sterling stamped dj but they made me do it and I don't play it. It's there solely as a warning as to the slippery slope that this 45 has led many people to. Before you know it you're wearing aftershave other than Brut and thinking Cunnie has a point.

ROD

got nowt to do with the subject,but sydney bridge is only a sad copy of the tyne bridge,

PML

got nowt to do with the subject,but sydney bridge is only a sad copy of the tyne bridge,

cause I cant think of anything to say to this,ted,i`ll change the subject.why were they called the car..stairs?the only stairs i`ve seen are in a bus.

APPARENTLY NOT SO J.M.'s SITE SAYS DIFFERENT.

so are all pink issues non originals,because it was demo only

no, i am not sure about it - i blame JM ;-)

Perhaps for the best,he seems to have broad shoulders ...........Glad to say my white copy does have a proper stamp,as does my Epitome of Sound CAN OF WORMS! CAN OF WORMS!

i just looked in the 'book' and if you have a white Carstairs AND a stamped epitome...then...well worry - 2 is just not possible.

cause I cant think of anything to say to this,ted,i`ll change the subject.why were they called the car..stairs?the only stairs i`ve seen are in a bus.

i've got an old picture of you and you do resemble the tyne bridge when your grinning...and your banned from public transport so what would you know about buses

i just looked in the 'book' and if you have a white Carstairs AND a stamped epitome...then...well worry - 2 is just not possible.

As I said,can of worms-the 'stamp' is on the edge of the label like a bump in the paper-if it is a stamp?

As I said,can of worms-the 'stamp' is on the edge of the label like a bump in the paper-if it is a stamp?

can't see a bump or stamp on it .

As I said,can of worms-the 'stamp' is on the edge of the label like a bump in the paper-if it is a stamp?

IT IS UNDER THE LABEL USUALLY NEAR THE 'SANBAG RECORDS' LOGO THERE IS A SCRATCHED SYMBOL IN THE DEADWAX WHICH LOOKS LIKE AN RP LINKED R ABOVE THE P. WHICH I BELIEVE TO BE THE PRESSING PLANT SIGNIFYER. THEY WERE NOT ALWAYS STAMPED LIKE THE MONARCH PLANT..WHERE MANY BOOTS WERE PRESSED ILLEGALLY...RAISED LETTERS UNDER LABEL LOOK LIKE 210 UNDER A MAGNIFIER..MAYBE 21P HAVEN'T A CLUE WHAT THIS DENOTES..JUST A PRESS NUMBER MAYBE..BUT DEFINITELY ORIGINAL. MY DEMO COPY IS ORIGINAL COVER UP ...BIT BATTERED BUT PLAYS GREAT

Edited March 24, 200619 yr by bearsoul

Wasn't there 2 addresses or something similar about pink issues. I wouldn't normally mention this but Im exchanging emails with My mate Dave in USA right now and he's proving to be a bigger anorak than I ever imagined.

ROD

Wasn't there 2 addresses or something similar about pink issues. I wouldn't normally mention this but Im exchanging emails with My mate Dave in USA right now and he's proving to be a bigger anorak than I ever imagined.

ROD

TWO PRINT RUNS PERHAPS?

TWO PRINT RUNS PERHAPS?

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Sorry. No guessing.

Dave reckons it's something to do with who is credited on label as distributor. Chess is GOOD cos that's what stamped DJ copies say. Red Lite is BAD cos that's the boot/repress due to Northern demand.

That does ring a bell but Dave is also the guy who reckoned at Wigan that hec could tell what colour the label was just from the sound of the record!! In short,a nutter.

Maybe somebody with less alcohol inside them could sort this out

ROD

I'd like to take issue with the above. Appalling has two "P"'s.

Actually Pete I do have the white Sterling stamped dj but they made me do it and I don't play it. It's there solely as a warning as to the slippery slope that this 45 has led many people to. Before you know it you're wearing aftershave other than Brut and thinking Cunnie has a point.

ROD

So thats where it all went wrong then

Cunnie, you have a point there mate

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Sorry. No guessing.

Dave reckons it's something to do with who is credited on label as distributor. Chess is GOOD cos that's what stamped DJ copies say. Red Lite is BAD cos that's the boot/repress due to Northern demand.

That does ring a bell but Dave is also the guy who reckoned at Wigan that hec could tell what colour the label was just from the sound of the record!! In short,a nutter.

Maybe somebody with less alcohol inside them could sort this out

ROD

OFF TO BOOK MYSELF INTO THE PRIORY GOOD LUCK

I think I may have split an infinitive earlier as in "led to". I'd like to apologise to my English teacher and anybody who noticed that apalling error. Oh fcuk!!

I'd like to thank the academy for this award....

ROD

I'd like to take issue with the above. Appalling has two "P"'s.

Actually Pete I do have the white Sterling stamped dj but they made me do it and I don't play it. It's there solely as a warning as to the slippery slope that this 45 has led many people to. Before you know it you're wearing aftershave other than Brut and thinking Cunnie has a point.

ROD

Good call Rob

At least we now know where the dividing line is.

Must admit that i did play this once & i got an overwhelming urge to wear a patch laden vest, a beer towel, baggie trousers, a pair of Clark's poly's that resembled Cornish pasties & to carry an empty holdall round with me that was clad in even more patches.

Never been so scared in all my f****n life

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Going off topic but do you know why they changed there name from the Carstairs to Universal Mind?

Because car's don,t have stairs....

OK, i'm getting my coat......

Edited March 25, 200619 yr by CUNNIE

Good call Rob

At least we now know where the dividing line is.

Must admit that i did play this once & i got an overwhelming urge to wear a patch laden vest, a beer towel, baggie trousers, a pair of Clark's poly's that resembled Cornish pasties & to carry an empty holdall round with me that was clad in even more patches.

Never been so scared in all my f****n life

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Going off topic but do you know why they changed there name from the Carstairs to Universal Mind?

Because car's don,t have stairs....

OK, i'm getting my coat......

See I knew he had a point

You forgot the bit about growing a Moustache and having your hair cut un to a Mullet !

Edited March 25, 200619 yr by Gavin Page

I'd like to take issue with the above. Appalling has two "P"'s.

Actually Pete I do have the white Sterling stamped dj but they made me do it and I don't play it. It's there solely as a warning as to the slippery slope that this 45 has led many people to. Before you know it you're wearing aftershave other than Brut and thinking Cunnie has a point.

ROD

Rod, I'm sure I saw you dancing to it at the Mecca and you stayed on the floor for Del Reys Incorporated and Boby Franklin - so when did modern soul begin to really suck? .

IT IS UNDER THE LABEL USUALLY NEAR THE 'SANBAG RECORDS' LOGO THERE IS A SCRATCHED SYMBOL IN THE DEADWAX WHICH LOOKS LIKE AN RP LINKED R ABOVE THE P. WHICH I BELIEVE TO BE THE PRESSING PLANT SIGNIFYER. THEY WERE NOT ALWAYS STAMPED LIKE THE MONARCH PLANT..WHERE MANY BOOTS WERE PRESSED ILLEGALLY...RAISED LETTERS UNDER LABEL LOOK LIKE 210 UNDER A MAGNIFIER..MAYBE 21P HAVEN'T A CLUE WHAT THIS DENOTES..JUST A PRESS NUMBER MAYBE..BUT DEFINITELY ORIGINAL. MY DEMO COPY IS ORIGINAL COVER UP ...BIT BATTERED BUT PLAYS GREAT

pat & the blenders has the same "hallmark"/stamp under the label - there was a thread a while back with plenty of them listed - i was sorting my records last week and came across a 'stamped' one which i'd never noticed and for some reason suprised me...if i could only remember which it was! lol

sorry - back to the carstairs...

Rod, I'm sure I saw you dancing to it at the Mecca and you stayed on the floor for Del Reys Incorporated and Boby Franklin - so when did modern soul begin to really suck? .

First of all let me assure Gavin and Cunnie that my posts of last night were not malicious in any way and Im afraid I'd been at the Tesco cream soda which always makes me hyperactive owing to the high count of artificial additives. That's my excuse and Im sticking to it.

I could just have easily wrtitten that "Gavin Page has a point" but there's something about the name Cunnie that just lingers in my mind.

Stuart, that was below the belt. Do I come on this site and draw attention to things you prefer to keep hidden but now the gloves are off!! Mr Cosgrove is both Scottish and ginger but despite this he has been able to lead a normal life. Sympathy cards can be sent to Stuart c/o this website.

Actually I began to get somewhat disillusioned with the modern soul sound after a few trips to USA. Think I'd picked up Mother Fox, Record Player and 7th Wonder[T-Town]. This was in late 80's/early 90's and aren't they kinda 120mph and not very soulful.

Gavin, I think we can meet halfway. Mr.M's is better off as a car park. Was it Bob who came up here to Macclesfield. Sold cars I think. He often mentioned you and said that one day you'd be as good a DJ as him. Next time you see him please say hello for me. My memory is getting worse. Pretty sure it was Bob,chubby with glasses. Southerner, but then we all are as far as Stuart's concerned. Facking too right,mate.

ROD

First of all let me assure Gavin and Cunnie that my posts of last night were not malicious in any way and Im afraid I'd been at the Tesco cream soda which always makes me hyperactive owing to the high count of artificial additives. That's my excuse and Im sticking to it.

I could just have easily wrtitten that "Gavin Page has a point" but there's something about the name Cunnie that just lingers in my mind.

Stuart, that was below the belt. Do I come on this site and draw attention to things you prefer to keep hidden but now the gloves are off!! Mr Cosgrove is both Scottish and ginger but despite this he has been able to lead a normal life. Sympathy cards can be sent to Stuart c/o this website.

Actually I began to get somewhat disillusioned with the modern soul sound after a few trips to USA. Think I'd picked up Mother Fox, Record Player and 7th Wonder[T-Town]. This was in late 80's/early 90's and aren't they kinda 120mph and not very soulful.

Gavin, I think we can meet halfway. Mr.M's is better off as a car park. Was it Bob who came up here to Macclesfield. Sold cars I think. He often mentioned you and said that one day you'd be as good a DJ as him. Next time you see him please say hello for me. My memory is getting worse. Pretty sure it was Bob,chubby with glasses. Southerner, but then we all are as far as Stuart's concerned. Facking too right,mate.

ROD

No offence taken Rod, just a bit of fun.

Tell you what i'll do - If your'e that disillusioned with stuff like Mother Fox & Record Player i'll gladly take e'm off your hands for a modest fee to cover the p&p, it's the least i can do to relieve you of such dirge .

Off to Tesco's now to stock up on cream soda

Lata, Mart....

i've got an old picture of you and you do resemble the tyne bridge when your grinning...and your banned from public transport so what would you know about buses

think you should do your homework chris,i used to drive routemasters for london transport i`ll have you know.ask paco.

just as i thought - but the only original issue - even if pressed for demand is the pink one - ok second best to the propa demo.

i blame pete smith

mine is original checked and checked manships guide too

£40 a steal..........

pat & the blenders has the same "hallmark"/stamp under the label - there was a thread a while back with plenty of them listed - i was sorting my records last week and came across a 'stamped' one which i'd never noticed and for some reason suprised me...if i could only remember which it was! lol

Wasn't it a Philadelphia thing Dave? (the stamps under the lables)

The Royal Five on tyler has it!

think you should do your homework chris,i used to drive routemasters for london transport i`ll have you know.ask paco.

I KNOW I WAS ON ONE OF THEM AND I'M STILL TERRIFIED OF PUBLIC TRANSPORT

Wasn't it a Philadelphia thing Dave? (the stamps under the lables)

The Royal Five on tyler has it!

err, i dont think it was Baz, though i sorted most of my records and so did have that in my hands last week too. Damn and blast in a way i was hoping no one would ask LOL, i'm gonna have to satisfy mine, if no one elses curiosity and go look through them all to see if i can remember i will let you know

err, i dont think it was Baz, though i sorted most of my records and so did have that in my hands last week too. Damn and blast in a way i was hoping no one would ask LOL, i'm gonna have to satisfy mine, if no one elses curiosity and go look through them all to see if i can remember i will let you know

No you great big wally I ment wasn't the stamps under the lables a thing they did in Philly, not was the record you had in your hands was of philly origin

All though now i am intrueged as to what it was so get hunting, maybe a quick flick of your magic wand will help you remember

I KNOW I WAS ON ONE OF THEM AND I'M STILL TERRIFIED OF PUBLIC TRANSPORT

we had nice uniforms though

we had nice uniforms though

Did the uniform's include pink boot's?

Simple explanation to a myth. As I recall, it was first played as a White Demo (as were many new releases at the time). I got my own copy before it was issued and it came through as a fairly new pre-release along with 2-3 other brand new Red Coach White Demos.

Soon after it became big over here the pink issues came through in quantity, selling, up North, for around 70p each at the time. The record went on (after much political debate over its validity for the Northern scene) to become a monster and later an acknowledged classic. Long after the pink copies dried up (a few years) it got booted on a poorly pressed and poorly printed White Label Demo Copy. In the mid/late 70's few pirates wanted the extra overhead of trying to match the 2-3 colour printing process of the originals. Make no mistake, the pink ones were always 'proper' and genuine in so much as they were issued...as issues... soon after DJ promotion (on White labels), in exactly the same way as thousands of other 45's!

So, no mystery. Just the normal course of record promotion in the early 70's.

Sean Hampsey

Edited March 25, 200619 yr by Sean Hampsey

Mr.M's is better off as a car park. Was it Bob who came up here to Macclesfield. Sold cars I think

Hey hold up a minute Rod ! I refute the accusation that ide be better off as a car park especialy in my home town of Macclesfield!!!!

Ime gonna tell Bunner what you said ! what a nerve!

Got my Carstairs upstairs at the casino record bar ? Good Providence or what!!! +its pink.

Edited March 28, 200619 yr by Mr M

No you great big wally I ment wasn't the stamps under the lables a thing they did in Philly, not was the record you had in your hands was of philly origin

All though now i am intrueged as to what it was so get hunting, maybe a quick flick of your magic wand will help you remember

oh, you little willy, i miss-read you post. i think i was suprised cos i'd never noticed it before - not very exciting and not worth the wait its so Phily they may have put in big letters on the label...oh..lol

it was the Bulters - Laugh, laugh laugh - Phila.

Mr.M's is better off as a car park. Was it Bob who came up here to Macclesfield. Sold cars I think

Hey hold up a minute Rod ! I refute the accusation that ide be better off as a car park especialy in my home town of Macclesfield!!!!

Ime gonna tell Bunner what you said ! what a nerve!

Got my Carstairs upstairs at the casino record bar ? Good Providence or what!!! +its pink.

Actually I should be grateful to Mr. M's. My wife spent her time at the Casino in there and If I'd had ever gone in there, I may have met her earlier!!

Im from Hazel Grove and used to pop up to Macclesfield in late 60's/early 70's as there was a decent record stall on market and a couple of shops that used to get the new release demos in. Happy times!!

Cheers ROD