Dave Rimmer

Things obviously are still a blur. Helps if you read the post you are replying to properly. Nobody said other allnighters didn't serve alcohol, but the Bolton Pigeon Fanciers club served alcohol all night, legally, well before any other allnighter had an all night license.

The Allnighters at Bolton Pigeon fanciers club were nothing to do with Derek or Phil. It was me and John Mills that promoted those. And yes, as far as I'm aware it was the first allnighter with a legal all night bar. It was to do with the Club's licence, because the pigeon clocks had to be returned to the headquarters of the Pigeon Fanciers Association (and this could be any time of the day or night if it was a big race from Europe) their licence to sell alcohol was any 35 hours a week. When we ran the first allnighter there they took more money on the bar that one night than they had in the previous three months ! Sadly, once they realised the money they could make from running all night Jamaican Blues Parties every fortnight they told us to bugger off, so the Northern fans couldn't have been buying that much beer !

Still agree with that. I work on the basis of getting 22 or 23 records into an hour spot, quite regularly before I get to the decks I've had 6 or 7 requests. Now these are people who have heard me DJ before, and know I have the record they are asking for. The reason they ask for certain records is they have heard me play them before, which means there is a fair chance I'll be happy to play them again. So, a third of my spot is requested before I get to the decks, a third is what I, as a DJ, feel the dancefloor needs at that moment, and a third is what I want to play. I've never forgotten that people who request records have paid to come into the venue, hence they are paying my wages on the night. Fortunately, I don't get many requests that are totally out of sync with what I am playing at the time, so I don't often have to turn people down. More to the point of the original post, If I haven't got a record, I'll say I haven't got it ! Quite often people who ask for records I haven't got will ask for several records, if I haven't got any of them I'll say so, but it also gives me an idea of what they want to hear, so I'll tell them I'll find something they will like and play that. By the same token, in the past I've been in the middle of an R & B set and someone came and asked for Muriel Day - 'Nine Times Out If Ten'. I don't own it, and even if I did, wouldn't have played it in the middle of an R & B spot, so I'll politely explain that I haven't got it, and also explain, if asked, why I wouldn't have played it even if I had got it. The ones that really wind me up though are the people who come and ask for a request when I've only got three records left to play. Give me a break, if you want to ask for a record, do it early in the set, not when I'm 53 minutes into it. Then if I've got it, I might have time to work it into the set. Otherwise I'll just say I've only got three left, and I've already pulled the last three up to play. It also depends what venue you are at, and what spot you have during the night....the last spot of any night is always the 'send 'em home happy' spot, so I'm more likely to play requests then than any other time. I've just got home from the Rugby allnighter, and in my first spot played no requests (11.15 to 12.30) and in my second spot played five or six requests (5 to 6 am), but as I said earlier, these were records people had asked for before I got to the decks. By the way, If it's something really cheesy, chances are I haven't got it, and I might say ask the next DJ, he'll play it for you. Derek Allen (God rest his soul) was a favourite for setting up like that, but bugger me if Derek didn't normally play the request and get a full dancefloor to boot ! I have to add the simple fact that the above refers to how I DJ, and each and every one of us who DJs is different, and will have their own view on this subject. So don't take what I say as gospel !

I got £550 when I sold mine, mind you it was still very much in demand at the time.

Harry, Des was right. that Mace is a c**t, but I have to say that Bidds is a top niter, with a real variety of music from rare Soul, and R & B, to Latin, and even the odd Disco record, in a venue that has no fancy aspirations to say the least. Rugby you know about, and I'll see you on Saturday Bishops Wood is another top night, great venue, great people, great music. Lifeline, well, just look at the DJ line ups (Although there is sometimes a little too much '70s and Modern for MY taste) and that should tell you what you are going to hear. Very busy record bar as well. Loughborough have only had one niter so far, and it was packed, very much Oldies based, but that's what the people who paid the money on the door wanted. Crewe, although it isn't really in the Midlands, has good niters at the Metz Club with three floors of differing music. Six Hills in Leicestershire is another great niter venue, and the last few have been really good. And of course there is the Kings Hall in Stoke. I can't think of any other Midland niters, and if I've missed anyone, my apologies. As far as Soul nights go, they range from busy to very quiet rare Soul nights to busy Oldies nights, probably very much the same as the rest of the country in all honesty.

I'll have a look which issues I've got left and get back to you by PM

I've got back issues of Soulful Kinda Music, loads of them.

i'm glad you understand this, because I'm blowed if I do

no idea, the file won't open

It was one of the Winsford allnighter Anniversary Singles when Pete & Barry ran it.

Isn't that Larry Hammond track the one that Dave Rivers mate's recorded in a bathroom a few years ago

You're not searching very well then Go here Soulful Kinda Music Over 400 label discographies, (including PIR and Curtom) and over 700 artist discographies

Just out of interest, I can understand the Chicken Pox bit, but horses ?

As someone who has DJ'ed in mainland Europe (Before Kenny tells me that we are part of Europe ) for over ten years, and loved every minute of it, and I'll be DJing in France and Germany again before the end of the year, I'm hardly going to be putting the 'Little Englander' attitude across, at least not until we talk about football . And again, the only thing that could be read into what I actually said was that I wouldn't presume to make assumptions about the whole of the UK Northern Soul scene, despite having lived here all my life, the implication in that being that Boba shouldn't make those assumptions either (Especially as he is basing his assumptions on an incorrect premise that the scene in Europe is bigger than the scene in the UK). I'd be grateful if you could point to the part of my post that was "factually wrong" though. However I will admit I possible was carrying that over from the initial post so may have been harsh in my judgment. I think so, but have no wish to continue arguing semantics with you, so I'll agree with you that the first post was one of the daftest yet. Fancy a beer at the 100 Club on Saturday ? I'll let you buy

You've completely lost me on this one. "Completely amazed at your statement" But then don't say which statement you are completely amazed at ! So in return, I'm completely amazed at your statement ! "Can you genuinely say all of this scene cares about the artists than the records" This doesn't make sense, so I'm assuming you meant this to say all of this scene cares more about the artists than the records, and the answer to that is no, I can't ! And I didn't say that in any way shape or form. In fact artists weren't even mentioned in my post, just records. I genuinely am puzzled as to what you are referring to ? In fact I've just gone back and read my post again, and at no point did I question Boba's knowledge of Black American music, or any of the work he does through his radio show and the interviews he does. I questioned his knowledge of the Northern Soul scene, in the UK and in the rest of Europe, whcih is something you also did !!

The Soul Harmony Singles book lists this Ultimate 1999 - The Ultimate Ovation - Deep Down In My Heart / Deep Down In My Heart (Diff. Vers.) - 1977 It may well be that this is just a demo of 002, but it might be the missing number. Either way, if it does have the different version, it's another one for you to search for

Just added a few bits of info to what Gilly had 6119 - Jesse James - I Call On You (ZM-3712) / Bring My Baby Back (ZM-2196627) 6120- Jesse 'Mr Soul' James & The Dynamic Four - Believe In Me BabyPart 1 (ZM-3713) / Believe In Me Baby Part 2 (ZM-2196628) 6121 - Faye Carol - Lives (ZM-2196629) / Good Man (ZM-3714) 6122 - Jesse James - Bring My Baby Back (ZM-2196627) / Time After Time (ZM-3716) R & B Indies has the label address as 11425 Potero, El Cerrito, CA

Hi Steve, Any idea how much would a white label promo of a UK Acid Jazz 12" release go for ?

ha ha, I've stayed out of this one because it's fairly obvious where I stand on the question.....but here's my view anyway. A good DJ will use the mic to his advantage, personally I think it's an essential piece of kit when you 'work the floor'. You can easily just play records when the floor is busy, or if you don't care whether the floor is busy or not, but I'm firmly in the camp of believing people want to dance and have a good time, and be entertained. That's what they have paid their money on the door for. so if using the mic helps create that atmosphere, helps fill the dancefloor, and aids you as a DJ to fill the dancefloor it's a must. I also use the mic on very, very rare occasions to take the piss out of mates On the even rarer occasion that I cock up behind the decks I also use the mic to take the piss out of myself but some people can waffle on too much, and I certainly try to avoid doing that because I know it can spoil the flow of a set. It is though, a personal choice, and I've heard some great sets from people who never pick the mic up, that's just not my style though. And I do agree that it is the most scary part of DJing when you first start out. Cough sweets, I don't need cough sweets, I just need plenty of beer !

So it does. In my defence, I did say "from memory".

Funnily enough, the photo on the book cover was provided by Bee Cool, because I've got a white one

The obvious thing is that the W/D says 'Audition Record' and the coloured demo says 'Demonstration Record' from memory. Other than that, no difference at all except in the price, the W/D is a lot rarer than the coloured one, and commands a much higher price. Both of the demos are rarer than an issue.

If you get offered two at that price, I'll take the other one

Tempe 104 - Deep Down Inside / Oh, Baby Doll – 1962 Try looking for the other side