Dave Rimmer

For sale - Top allnighter sound ! Reatha Reese - Only Lies - Dot - Near Mint condition (both vinyl and label) - £500 Vary rarely seen for sale this is a genuine rarity, and is in about as good a condition as you are ever likely to see. Sorry, no trades, no Paypal, cheque only (or cash at a venue) PM if you are interested. I haven't got time tonight, but if it hasn't sold by tomorrow morning I'll add some scans and a sound clip taken from the record. Cheers and thanks for looking Dave

Dougie is Makemvinyl on SS

Thanks folks. It's a bit of a sad time, the mag has been part of my life for the last 18 years, but sales have dropped to a quarter of what they were five years ago (and I don't think the quality of the contents has dropped), so it just became a question of whether it was worth spending all that time producing it, and the cost of getting it printed to sell less than 200 copies which is what happened with the last one. It's a decision I've been thinking about for nearly a year now. I don't think I did badly though. 72 issues (Plus 8 'Special' issues of discographies etc), all of which were over 40 pages, over an 18 year period (Bearing in mind I held a full time job, am married and have two, now adult children) The website will remain, and will grow, so I'll be adding to the articles and CD reviews on there on a regular basis. And I was serious about writing for other mags. So Dave, Derek, Howard, and Mike (and anyone else I've forgotten) bear me in mind if you need something writing. If any one wants back issues I have copies of most of the last twenty issues - £3 each including postage. I'll edit this post later and add a list of which issues I've got. cheers

That's not the point. I attend venues every weekend, I sell records at those venues. In the context the question was posed "Is the internet a bad thing for the Soul scene", it is with regard to selling records at venues, because as far as I'm concerned, the Soul scene, is actually out there at venues, not sitting on your own at home in front of a pc.

It's not a contentious point at all. It's fact. Sales on the internet have rocketed, and that's why it is harder to sell records at venues, and if, like me, you sell records at venues, the internet is a bad thing. Fact, not contentious.

From a personal point of view the internet has been a mixed blessing. Bad Points: 1. It is much harder to sell records at venues these days, mostly because a huge number of people spend their money on the net via ebay, or even SS, before they get to the venue. 2. The ease with which information is gained via sites like this has meant that the majority of people don't buy magazines in anywhere near the same number that they used to. Back in the day there were only three ways to get info, do the digging yourself, use your contacts, or buy a magazine. Now you just post the question on SS and usually within minutes you get the answer. So, sadly, after eighteen years, Soulful Kinda Music has closed it's doors. If any one wants back issues PM me. 3. Funnily enough, not doing the magazine has left me with loads of spare time, and it's meant I've realised how crap the telly in this country really is. So I spend far too much time sitting in front of a PC (I do it all day at work as well) The Good Points: 1. Records that I want are far more easily obtainable since internet use became common 2. I've made a lot of new friends since internet use became common (I might have made them without the internet, but who knows ?) 3. I can obtain information just as easily as everyone else through SS, and have really enjoyed constructing and building the Soulful Kinda Music website into the biggest (and I like to think best) discography resource on the web for Soul fans. 4. I've had a huge amount of fun winding up pretentious idiots who think they are the saviors of the Soul scene and are guarding my morals for future generations So, if anyone out there wants any articles writing, on virtually any subject related to Soul, give me the subject, number of words, and a dealine, and I'll have a go

backing track to The Fuller Brothers has been used quite a few times as well.

Or Mick Smith

Got to agree with that because I bought my demo for £15 at Keele, and remember being really pleased because I got it at about half the going rate at the time. Regards the relative rarity of issues and demos, back in the '80s they were nearly all demos that turned up, however since then, loads and loads of issues have surfaced. So on reflection I personally would ay that the demo is probably the rarest these days. (Cat amongst the pigeons post )

I didn't know there had been a volume 5 ! Bugger !!!! Anyone got a copy for sale ?

Chalky, I assume you mean me . Although I have no idea who it really is, mostly because of my shocking memory. I was once told who it was by somebody, and by the morning had forgotten I've done that with several other records as well, I must start to write these things down However, if a record really is rare, why not uncover it ? It's not as though copies are going to suddenly turn up in quantity. Look at the Mello Souls, Parliaments and Tommy Tate singles. A few have surfaced, but not enough to call any of them common, or any less in demand than they were. Just because people know who an artist really is doesn't mean they are going to find a copy. So the DJ / collector who originally found and played the record will still receive all the credit and kudos for doing that. As a DJ I also understand why DJs want to have exclusives, but again, if it's really rare, they would still have that exclusive. Put it this way, if great record hounds like Butch and Andy Dyson have only turned 8 copies of Belita Woods up in a couple of years, how many more would other people have found if we all knew who it was. Approximately zilch I suspect ! Same with the Mello Souls, Butch had it covered for ten years, and despite knowing what he was looking for never found another one as far as I know in that ten years. Shifty found it by chance, he didn't know who the original artist was at all when he found his copy. How many have turned up since ? Two ? And it's not as though you can claim that records are covered up to stop the bootleggers either, because if it is really rare they won't find a copy to bootleg anyway. So really the only way to stop people uncovering cover ups, because it is a game in itself, is to not cover them up in the first place.

Why not ? If it's as rare as claimed, what does it matter if it's not covered up ?

'fraid so Ted, does it make you feel old now

You're perfectly correct there Pete. The Lea Manor Soul nights that Tim is referring to were promoted by Martin Bradley, and Tate and Lin. I can't remember when the last Soul night was, but the last allnighter held there by these promoters was in December 2001. (So the Soul nights must have started about 1996) Tim also right in claiming that there weren't that many people from Wolverhampton that attended on a regular basis, as a percentage of the total attendance, bearing in mind that Wolverhampton is the nearest big town. Just out of interest here is the playlist from the last allnighter The Last Albrighton Allnighter The later incarnation of the Lea Manor was run by Col & Gaye Kidson and ran for about two years between 2005 and 2007 (Roughly)

It's not all disco is it

It might be, but I doubt it. There was a series of these US Release CDs, and they covered, fairly obviously, one year on each CD. I don't think Motown even realised that it was a different take to the Frank Wilson when they released it. I'll dig my copy of the CD out tonight and post the version of FW so that you can compare it.

That'll be the alternate take that's on the 'Motown Year By Year' CD then.

If I had unlimited cash and had just bought the Junior McCants I think the thrill would be in saying "I'll collect it". The freedom to not have to plan trips in advance, and just travel where I wanted would be fantastic. I'd probably spend six months of the year travelling anyway (And I mean around the world, not in a caravan like Bearsy )

And I've been playing it in my set for nearly eight years. Originally covered up for a laugh as Jimmy Washburn - Into Your Heart

Well if you are claiming to be highly developed thank God I'm still dragging my knuckles

A huge number of the labels have water damage, but mint vinyl.

I think you'll find most of us will wait and see, we don't all claim to have an all seeing ability to know we are right before the event takes place. When I read the first post in the thread about the film being allegedly in trouble I did think that gloating is one of the most unattractive personality traits that can be displayed.

Perfectly correct. In real life you're a complete arse not just a bit of an arse

Paul O'Grady even sang the chorus from 'Like A Nightmare', and he knew who it was by. Yes, I'm seeking forgiveness for watching as well.

I've been giving it the odd spin over the last year or so.