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HI MARK, HI ALL In a perfect world, and how much we spend on records, they should all be mint I still get a chuckle from the notation of if you have money you can by mint records that are 40 tears old, If you wee looking to buy original Jamaican records in mint condition, you would not have a collection! just a pile of 45s, that are crap, As stated by myself before, collecting JA records without considering that it is a very poor 3rd world country, so poor that even cardboard LP SLEEVES are reused, sometimes even the rarest LP sleeves were turned inside out to have a basic screen print put on, most records had only 4% with proper labels, All though in the USA it was not so extreme, most records are DEMOS and very small amount of stock copies exist today, if a record gets damaged you pay what you want, you can have the stance of thinking they re worthless? but in truth it is better to have a rare record with a crack in it than not having it at all, My collection has about 20 cracked records, without the cracks they would be priced at about £15k as they have cracks well, lets say by buying them very cheap i have taken them off the market so you can pay top prices and i can play the record, and not worrying about my investment? Dave K

HI PATTO This great track that you speak about is like music to my ears, as it was the initial discovery of records like this in 67/68 that started the RARE SOUL SCENE & when the LONDON clubs went FUNKY late 69 the NORTH stayed with the popular sound of 66/7 for real soul power, it always amuses me, when people state that LONDON move with the times, as from 68 to 72, the reissue TAMLA MOTOWN that charted makes no sense of the dia mess the UK RECORD BUISNES was in (OK I will admit i did by quite a bit of pop especially the white blues groups) but for those who had records like "get right" the PLAYERS were a part of the Twisted Wheel In Crowd. or equivalent clubs, It is well known that I was into the new REGGAE scene, but like a few people in LONDON & THE HOME COUNTIES, WE STILL LISTENED TO SOUL, I used to try and buy the various artist LP's and your sound was on one of the best 33minutes of BLUES & SOUL MLS4002, 4001 WAS THE CLASSIC BIG ONE, I RECOMEND ALL THESE LP'S THAT WERE RELEASED IN 68/70 on EMI group of labels & president soul city and so on, as if you wonder what was the wheel really like well you record is a fine example. QUOTE"if you are gonna start, try the beginning not the end" dk2012 DAVE K

HI ALL.... Great thread this one, however lacks pictures, so, there's many a slip twixt cup & lip. I have only heard the pirate radio story, yet major US LABELS also change in 68 DAVE K

HI A great find, I have a 8 track player plus SAGENT PEPPERS 8 TRACK, however the rarest cassettes & 8 tracks are TROJAN LPs TIGHTEN UP 1, & 2, AND THE CLASSIC RED RED WINES LP, All very rare items indeed, there may be other titles like JIMMY CLIFF "WONDERFUL WORLD", in fact I am going to play my rare demo in about 3 minutes time. DAVE K PICKED THE WRONG ONE??

HI ALL TOTALY AGREE, HOWEVER, It gets me how respected dealers go to events with boxes of this bootleg crap, and that is what is, nothing but worthless crap, that no matter how much we talk about it, lets face it, if dealers at venues are selling it in front of you unchallenged, any thing written is like pissing in the wind, and our dislike has the power of a toothless dog, me thinks! DAVE K

HI ALL...PETE I think that your EMI Disc example relates to where the actual recording was done, as I had a Pet Clark "downtown" (possibly the best UK recording there is of 6ts pop with soul?) also the disc itself with a PYE COSTOM LABEL is on a EMI PLATTER, A very rare record though in my opinion, more than the £50 you got, but that's the problem with acetates, there true value is never reached? I think Mick only got £100 for my Tymes "here she comes" & a bit more for Eve Sands "picture me gone" DAVE K

HI ALL thanks for comments I feel Petes input is very valid on all threads on soul source and if you don't like his veiw piont, please do a thread of your own, as it detracts from what I was asking for, The TRILLS is a great record, however I have a minty DEMO, £750 for the saphires?? makes me wonder how much you paid for it, as I would never go above £250 for any HMV DEMO and that is tops, they are all rare and hard to find at the top, the inspirations sounds right, MANY THANKS DAVE K

HI STANTON NO LONGER MAKE THEM, HOWEVER COPYS OF THE 500 ARE ABOT £8, CARTRIDGES WHY DO YOU NEED TO CHANGE THAT? THEY LAST & LAST FOR MANY YEARS, IF YOU WANT TO WAST YOUR MONEY SEND ME A £5,,,DAVE K

HI #36 GAVE IT TO MICK SMITH AS A PRESSIE 1975? DAVE K

HI ALL LOOKING FOR A COPY OF :- COLUMBIA DB8046 - TOMMY TATE -LOVERS REWARD - DEMO OR ISSUE HMV POP 1441 - SAPHIRES - GOTTA HAVE YOUR LOVE - DEMO CAPITOL CL15484 - PATRICE HOLLOWAY - LOVE & DESIRE - DEMO OR ISSUE POLYDOR 56730 INSPIRATIONS _ TOUCH ME, KISS ME/ Also need FRANKIE & CLASICLES BF 1586 my copy has a crack, anything above VG will be considered and anything above Mick Smiths prices will not? DAVE K

HI TIM I WILL TAKE IT, PM ME I WILL SEE YOURBALRIGHT FOR CASH THIS XMAS DAVE K

HI ALL The OZ copy is the same as the CONTEMPORARES ain't it? also the great PYE LP LONDON SWINGS, has extra trax, again not positive about this "this heart of mine" is on the ASTOR OZ LP?

HI ALL The Jackie Opel "Idon't want her" is a excellant example of JA SOUL, I'm no expert, but this record has it all, and it must be at the top end of must haves if you are going to invest in JA SOUL, value £100+ as it has 2 great sides, nice one PETE, DAVE K

HI ALL....That's right PETE, but recent demand from people who are getting into the JA scene of JA SOUL have pushed the price up, the UK PYE VERSION is a good example of RARE V DEMAND, The BARRY SMITH C/U is my fave JA SOUL RECORD, pointed out to me 20 years ago by the "BUSHDOCTOR" (IF i COULD GET MY HEAD AROUND HOW I RECORD IT SO YOU CAN HERE IT,) Some of you may no it, just me having fun, PETE may help out by recording it for me? if I see him O will give him a copy. DAVE

HI ALL SEAN as Mick does not post, he gave me permission to do so on his behalf, as I feel it was to good not to mention, mind you when I tried to get him to list to my JA SOUL,NO CHANCE HERE ARE SOME SCANS OF 4 CURRENT JA SOUL 45s DAVE BEST VERSION, AS IS JA CUT FOR JJBARRY SMITH

HI ALL THE LORD CREATOR IS GOOD, & I want to show you this now, As I was saying to MICK SMITH last weekend in Wolves, when i plated 3 of my JA SOUL,Their are some very rare records in JAM MICK went on and isisted that he had the rarest and best soul record on a JA?? I ccould not help but gasp at the record that my Sage had, and I am telling you I 100% agree! do you??? with the greatest respect to all of us, this is why Mick is the #1 and what a find is #2 like my Moments LP track c/w GEAORGE SOULE - GET INVOLVED, I have yet to make the connection? THIS SCAN comes to you via the guvner ME from Mick Smith DAVE N MICK

HI ALL Since I was 15 years old (67) I have collected JA records, initially it was ROCK STEADY and from 68 it was the REGGAE that we loved, back in those days, many records from JA were copies of US SOUL or UK POP, The main thing was the REGGAE, that backed these songs. In recent years (since the Internet) access to thousands of records on the TREASURE ISLE (JA) have come available, In with many hundreds of records, we have made discoveries of JA SOUL also some unusual pressings with US SOUL, Last weekend I was speaking to my mentor & sage, he boasted that he had the rarest SOUL Record to come from? and I can assure you all, he does have the rarest of them all. I will put into the RECORD CLUB PLAY OF THE DAY, HOWEVER what rare JA SOUL records have you got DAVE K

HI ALL..As a collector of SOUL released in the UK, There are some basic rules to follow & to understand. 1) non of GRAPVINES 45s had been released in the UK this makes them 1st issues not reissues, 2) collecting UK 45s is an elitist hobby that has it0s roots in the MOD sub culture "watch the tonic?" to translate, tonic suits were made bespoke in SAVILE ROW, 2 TONE was of the peg BURTON, A CROMBIE COAT was made in ABERDEEN hence abercrombie, this blue coats made with plastic were made in sweat shops of BRICK LANE,3)GRAPEVINE LABEL has a quality pedigree attached to it, Scotchman John Anderson (soul bowl) Richard Sterling (Mr NICE FM) with RCA RECORDS, Do you get my gist, if not I will write more KTF DAVE K

HI ALL. SOME PEOPLE ARE FINDING THINGS GETTING HARD AT THE MOMENT? (WHAT TURNS YOU ON! I SAY). BUT IT'S A SAD FACT THAT THIS WILL NOT BE A GOOD CHRISTMAS MONEY WISE, TO-NIGHT AT 3am THE CHRISTMAS RUN IN THREAD WILL START, AS ALWAYS THIS CURRENT THREAD HAS BEEN THE MOST SUCSESSFUL BY FAR, THANKS TO 6 MEMBERS WHO KEEP COMING UP WITH QUALITY TUNES, SO WITHOUT NAMING THEM CAN I SAY WELL DONE, SO THINK ABOUT THE GOOD PARTY TUNES OLD AND NEW, REMEMBER THIS IS NOT AN EXCLUSIVE NORTHERN SOUL ONLY THREAD, BUT RECORDS THAT HAVE SOUL, THEY COULD COME FROM THE STATES JAMAICA UK OR ANY WHERE AS LONG AS THEY ARE NOT HEAVY ROCK OR HIPPY STUFF? ONCE AGAIN KEEP ON KEEPING ON, DAVE K AKA DTHEDRUG,

:hatsoff2:HI ALL YOU SOULSTERS, BIG PC ISSUES, MY PICK IS A RECORD THAT i HAVE HAD IN EVERY FORM POSSIBLE, TRULY ONE OF THE MOST BRILLIANT B SIDES EVER, SOUNDS EVEN BETTER TO-DAY, LA Session men (Hideaways) playing a Ramsey Lewis JAZZ Style sound but with the Afro drums and the funky horns, ACTION UK.ACT4544 - JOLLY JOE - Value worth getting a speeding ticket, play on full power, I recommend this as the proper stuff!? DAVE K

HI My advice is a) estimate the value & remove the crown jewels, b) get 3 reputable dealers to value the records. minus the crown jewels, c) follow the advice given above, remember that the value of many records is lower and added to that a dealer will offer you half your value, d) never tell a dealer that you need money for any reason, they will always take advantage, Always. e) sell the crown jewels on here via ebay, DAVE K

PETE IT'S THE B SIDE, TO "IT'S A SHAME" DUKE 70, I HAVE A SPARE, OF MY LATEST, BARRY SMITH - I LOVE YOU BABY - PEOPLE C/U A GREAT TUNE, THE BEST SOUL 45 OF THE YEAR, RARE UK & NO ONE HAS GOT IT, £100+ EASY, DAVE K

HI READERS I'M JUST PLAYING CAT & MOUSE WITH PETE, PETE HAS GOT & HAD SOME OF THE VERY BEST AND RARE RECORDS IN THE UK, HE KNOWS THAT I NO THAT, However I did tell you to start picking the together tune up! other tips were DESERTION AL T JOE DUKE 70 (PLAY SPEEDED UP) and a novelty from Ken BOOTH - 6 IN 1 AQUARUIS JA, MELADY WHICH INCLUDES MOOVIN AWAY! NICE! I WILL CHECK OUT THE MAYTELS, the ISLAND COPY has sold for £350 10 years ago JA COPY I SOLD FOR £100 ON GREEN HAVE A COPY FOR £20 IF YOU WANT IT? AS ALWAYS DAVE K

Hi I am in need of upgrades for my collection UK BELL DEMOS any record from the cat will do from EX- my big want is - BOB BRADY & CONCORDS - "EVERYBODY 'S GO;IN TO THE LOVE'IN" - BELL 1060 DEMO, CASH WAITING, EMAIL PLEASE, DAVE K

HI ALL As with many JA Records that have crossed over to the soul generation, if you no whats what you can still pick them up on the cheap this is a good example, "mama did not lie" is a classic however not as common as Pete makes out, the side you wanted "together! is a superb bit of soul from the CHARRIOT who not only recorded at the top level many soul records, even R&R, But produces some classic reggae for the CHOWSON FEW, + some good soul covers, dare I say their version of "SHAFT" is the best? finally I told Pete this was the side to get months ago??? today's price £50 mint or £5 from PETE, DAVE K