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Hi I can see why you asked the question, as they all look right, however I don't think the add helps at all, and the info that I would add is whats written in the dead wax, i thinks all have been booted, the hard one is Th James Bounty which is on a thread on soulsoure and I believe covers every thing you need to no, I bet it.s a boot, And I bet this has all been said, as I jumped strait to answer, "give a man a bone" Dave

HI AL,,, This is or could be the start of a thread that answers the age old question about why don't they dance to the classic I am playing, For my point of view there are some rules that apply to the subject , And readers please don't upset yourself at my points as they are just that my personal views over 35 years as collector and ex DJ, The Rare Soul Scene has always been a ad-hoc scene, when it comes down to Professional standards, Most top spinners who have survived are in fact a click of record dealers, who hasn't set foot on a dance floor in years, and if they do it is clear they are P***ed up! and can't dance, This is important as if you can't get into the dance groove! the dancers can't get into your groove? can you dig? 99.5% of the DJs have had no professional training and take little interest in the equipment they use, in one way this basic approach of the likable anorak playing very rare records is good, but take off the rose tinted glasses and say what you see, an old man playing his records? What records clear the dance floor? years ago it was once a record was available for £1 from Selectadisc and it's many out lets (many DJ dealers come to mind), also for some strange but odd logic it's they aren't use to your play list, (get into the groove thang) or the promoter has got you as a warm up man, Stop playing the same records that other DJs play as their play list, we all no where that can go. Stop playing the records that you play to yourself at home! remember the punters want a good night, see make sure you give them it! Stop playing to many records that are obscure to most all in one night, this is a common mistake by collectors when they are asked to do a spot, as the record at the start of this thread, is a classic case as it is a good record, and should get played, obscure records no matter what they are, like every thing needs to become familiar, that's why the younger DJs play a 30 minute loop and mix in records, the trick is to do the same in the way your records are selected, so over a 30 minute period you have kept a rhythm flow by not jumping the beat?/ And finally a few weeks ago I went to GOODYEARS CLUB and people were dancing to Toots and the Maytals, nothing wrong with that if you are at a wedding? but what a £1 reggae record is doing being played at a rare soul night? and more to the point the dancers were dancing? can anybody explain how and why this record was played in the first place?? now that only a start, a big question, my #7 is the one for me, would I travel 100 miles to here that? no! would you, apparently you would!! AS ALWAYS "GIVE A DOG A BONE IN 2012" DAVE X

HI ALL Here's one of my all time faves.. that's Northern SOUL talk, for the majority of records in our collections, or say they say, However LEE DAVID is just that, a true Norther Soul Classic in every which way you look at it, This GEM of a record was discovered by BIG Clive Everett (gertcha cow sun) & Mick Smith in 72 on one of there US Tripp's, and then taken to the TORCH for it's 1st play* and then it went to the Blackpool MECCA, Tony Jebb played it & Ian (me me) Levine purchased it for £xx, *And the rest is history, all though for most people the TORCH would be the 1st play, but like so many of Clive & Mick's finds, they were all 1st spun at the DIVE Bar in Hitchin, & taken for approval to the Birds Nest in West Hampstead, one day I will try and get round to complying a list of records that not only Clive & Mick discovered (yet some DJs still try to make out it was their find? NAME & SHAME!) But the records that were first played from Notts to London and before the Wheel claimed them as theirs? Finally the DEMOS are worth double of the stock, which is now £100+ easy. my 1st copy was from the original find from Mick now long gone, the copy in my collection I got from Kieth Minshal £40. DAVE (I should write a book) KILWORTH

HI ALL This is one of my favourate sounds of the post WIGAN plays! it's from 1964, and a very good example of the new soul sound that would be so dominant in the following few years, Again I tried to put a sound clip on for you, but my short term memory loss (to many chemicals) means sorry, my resalution this year is to achieve this goal! however don't bank on it, as I keep forgeting passwords??? anyway it;s on you tube! If anyone has a copy to trade please let me no? as this is my copy, OOOPS!! DONALD JENKINS - "SOMEBODY HELP ME" - CORTLAND 112 HAPPY NEW YEAR

Hi it's the RARE Vocal Version, with the voices Dubbed off? would I tell a PORKY PIE DAVE

Hi All you should find the .https://indangerousrhythm.blogspot.com/2006...h-dime-new.html You should find it here? with kuck.LANNIE HILL "Ain't I worth a DIME" here! cheers DAVE

great tune TED.***** Have you got the LANNIE HILL track, and are you going to the STATION HOTEL TO-NIGHT? DAVE

HI ALL & HAPPY NEW YEAR, WITH THE SUCCES OF THE PREVIOUS THREAD, SOULSOURCE HAS REQUESTED WE START AGAIN! I would like to thank all those who like me, love to guide Bros & Sisters towards sounds they may not no!, be it Rare or just tucked away on the B sife, of an old stomper, THANKS, To start this of I am still playing the B side to Lannie Hills (Wigan) CLASSIC "Time marches on" a great mid tempo sound,"ain't I worth a DIME" If someone could put a sound file on for me, and you will soon discover it's time to get a spin or two.https://indangerousrhythm.blogspot.com/2006...h-dime-new.html you should find it here? with kuck. AS ALWAYS DAVE KILWORTH (DtheDrug)

The best way of finding out whats what, is to contact the MCC, as every development has to go through the council, that gives a chance for any objections to be made, also gives a consortium to establish a quarum and aply to the arts council and English Heritage to list it as as a building of significant historical purpose, as the wheel was loved not just for rare soul, many top artists played at both venues, and that would add more clout, any body interested we could start a campaign over these pages, if you like I can see what IVOR thinks and also BRIAN ACTION IS NEEDED DAVE KILWORTH

TO TRUE I'M LAPPING IT UP!

Hi "sometimes dislexia comes in handy, when one gives a Fraudian slip" Don't you no?. I remember a plater at Coreys Mill, Stevenage Old Town, who was very gifted and gave a good pedel, Dave

Hi All ....I totaly agree, but there will always be a few caviats to this age old question, It has never been a simplistic question, and what is considard rare by you & me! is passe to other collectors, I dropped out of the exclusive must have click 25 years ago, for one reason only. As a married man with young kids, I could not justify to my partner the cost of records that I had & still felt I needed to own, especially when on the average wage, and as I very much liked to buy and sell, it was only my hobby, (however much the rare soul scene is a part of me, and influences me in the choice of recaptureing my fraternal youth, "am I really 60, in 3 weeks? as my cognition is of a 30 year old") Many of the records I have in my collection as we approach 2012, are no longer exclusive sounds, even if you have not got them, you will no them and seen them, over the years when you like me cant walk by a pile of records without being magnatised to look through them, In my studies of addiction, it is said that, when you put a piece of chocolate in your mouthm the high is more than a sexual orgasam, only for 1.4 of a second, when I look at records the anticipation is 100% higher, and certain records are of a much higher value, So personal taste is very much a factore of desire, not the monatry value, for example :- Spyder Turner MGM Classic "I can't make it anymore" is not rare exclusive & is for many of us POPULAR today as ever, I just plated Paula Parfet "love is wonderful" BEACAN BEA135, again we all no it as above, but in this case, if you wanted it now, even if you had the money! could you by it in the next 3 hours? So it is not as simple as to be an exclusive record, it's about your feelings about it that makes you want it, when I buy a record from a dealer, my opening gambit, has always been why are you selling it, just to here the explanation, that determins what offer I will make, I have only paid the asking price for a record if I feel that deeler has done the priceing right, making no need to hagle? On this subject I feel there is real answer to it, like how come Ranking Johnny Boy get's so much for his record sales? who cares. As Always DAVE

HI PETE That's a ridiculous price for such a rare record, if you consider what people spend on records these days, when i said Rocker that's my way of stating they had more success in the 50's not that they were greebos? however he did have some solo releases, DAVE

HI PETE Sorry but I was agreeing with you regarding Pookie Hudson as I have a Soul Bowl list from 77 with it on, and although John sold repressed records, i can't recall him selling bootlegs at all. Pookie Hudson although a 50's rocker in the Charlie Gracie Philly style, his norther/Wigan classic is still one of my Favorite records of all time, and a 1st issue must be worth getting, I would like to have a cdpy again, value today? can you help! DAVE

HI ALL This great record I first got a copy from Mick Smith in 72, also got the Pookie Hudson on the same label from Mick in 75, When I sold my 1st collection, I bought both singles back as reissues, not as bootlegs, JAMIE/GUYDEN, HAS MANY REISSUES, with the VIRTUE mark, as far as I no they are not bootlegs at all, just repressing? DAVE

COCKNEY REDS! What a laugh/

HI ALL I did not no Pete that well, but to put him in context with soul DJ's he was important to the development of the scene, and his manor was more like a twisted wheel punter of the early generation, and was an all round good guy! DAVE

Hi Ted want to swap it for a copy of "SHOTGUN" minty R&W DEMO? DAVE

HI TED,,I wrote a piece about this? myself 2 days ago similar to you the love of the B side, I have always wanted this record although it has alluded me,I would value it at £200 mint DAVE

Hi All, and what a good question, I will be brief and to the point, in the early days many women (girls) were on the scene and in some way as clubbers they were the original ladettes, equality was one of the scenes quality's however today's scene attracts much older people sadly,and most of the early Northern Soul scene was not based around male mid life crisis, and obsessive behavuaral traits, added to this men are possessiveness by nature and women tend to lack assertion to defuse envy and jealousy that women have to suffer if a female partner asserts an independent role, in short, the average male treats women as possessiveness, and automatically assumes that if their partner goes out all night, she will be unfaithful and become struck down by nymphomania with every man? the average male when it comes to females, sexual cognition is on par with a dog on heat?. Also the average male does not relate to the vulnerabilities that women live there daily lives, MARS & VENUS comes to mind, to end the old saying "GIRLS GROW UP & BECOME WOMEN1 BOYS NEVER GROW UP1? DAVE KILWORTH

Hi I have a Soul City & a OKeh copy spare both ex con PM me and SYP or come to WOLVES RECORD FAIR tommorow Mick Smith is there with the gang PETE ROY DAVE W & yours truly DAVE

Hi ALL...Years ago when GOD'S dog was a pup and I was 15, I have vivid memories of my first experience of my first visits into the local pub tagging along with my elder brother & sister both MODS as were my cousins and there mates, i can recall the records on the juke box, in particular Jimmy Ruffins "what becomes of the broken harted" . However it was the B side that was so popular, and has always been an all time Favorited of mine since them days. "Baby you got it" is a classic and pure MOTOWN, when I started collecting records in the rare soul way of collecting, it has always been a want to own a RED & WHITE DEMO of it, although over the years I have had a few DEMOS I have never even had a sniff at one, and following the end of John Manship s auction, the dream is all over for me, I cant compete with that price1 CAN YOU? DAVE K

HI TOADY BOY I HAVE ABOUT MOST OF THE TOP REGGAE TUNES THAT WAS PUT OUT BY TROJAN/B&C SUCH AS RED RED WINE REGGAE IN YOUR JEGGAE AND SO ON HOW MANY ARE THERE AND WHICH ONES HAVE THE A ON,NO ONE NOES SOME TITLES I LEAVE AS I ONLY COLLECT THE STUFF WOULD OF PURCHASED WHEN IT COME OUT, I AM NOT A STAMP COLLECTOR, THE ONES I HAVE ARE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO LOCATE, I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR JAMES CARR FREEDOM TRAIN FOR 40 YEARS ON B&C AND STILL CANT FIND IT, IT'S HARDER TO FIND THAN DARE I SAY THE VOLUMES? DAVE PS:- THE DEMOS COME OUT 6 MONTHS BEFORE THE SURE SHOT BAGS, AND THE STAMPED DEMOS COULD BE FAKED, HOWEVER 1ST ISSUE RECORDS ON ANY B&C LABEL CAN EASY BE SPOTTED IF NOT ON THE #1 RUN.

HI ALL I HAVE NEVER HAD A BAD VERSION OF THIS CLASSIC LOVE SONG, WHICH BECAME A MASSIVE CROSSOVER REGGAE TRACK. AND USED ALSO AS A BACKING TRACK, ALL VERSIONS ARE WORTH PICKING UP FROM SLIM SMITH TO CLEARANCE CARTER DAVE

Hi All Theres seling a record or buying a record, and you tell mates you had it away whith whoever and so on, and we all no a record is worth whatever you are prepared to pay for it" however when the seller puts a price tag on it, he/she is not aiming it at me, but at the most gullible Take a butchers at this? Item number: 320806897282 and then tell me what the value of 1 of my original B&C DEMOS, HOW MUCH IS ASKING FOR TOOTS? MAKES THE ORIGINAL PYRAMID VERSION WORTH £500? THIS IS WHAT A RARE RECORD LOOKS LIKE?? "I KID YOU NOT" DAVE