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Nice mix Karl What were the last two tracks ? ATB Andy

I wonder if the band name was connected to 'Disco Demolition Night' at Comiskey Park in Chicago where a local 'shock jock' radio DJ destroyed thousands of disco records. However it was widely seen as a racist gesture by the black community. Chicago is the connection it seems. Maybe some short lived protest band which never took off ? It seems strange they have a Curtom promo photograph but no release. https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/lets-blow-up-this-black-music-the-ugliness-and-unrest-of-1979-s-disco-demolition-night-212310331.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAHmOOgyKfr0m4GAZmtVMIho3N2QeGzCtDiXxHQrsLLAzhk3OjRO3RCmAwYutvCyiLxF0XgsECOnlthFRGcUrM23cCMHQkbdUZLheKdGr0nIXjtwOZoJHfqj8qNNjK5qYOuq24QgDd4Nj-NaNPzp1Jyj2ao2X2-9plPRzUlYA0fS9

Interestingly I have a rare record which is styrene and from a visual inspection looks G+ (UK) and Fair (US). The styrene is heavily marked scuffed and scratched, however when played it sounds great and the play grade would be Ex . So how to grade for a buyer (not that I'm selling !) ? Maybe the only option is a sound file and say to the buyer its your decision ?

Firstly for me its about UK or US grading because they are different. Grading itself is a little subjective and I've rarely had a really bad grading from the UK or US (maybe a couple in 40 years), but you have to understand that a UK grade will probably be lower than a US grade, so a UK VG+ will be lower than a US VG+. Therefore if its a UK 45 buy at Ex minimum.

It depends on the rarity of the record. If I can get a rare record that I do not own but want, then I would take a VG copy provided its priced correctly. At some point if I can get an Ex or NM then I'll move it on. But there is no point buying VG copies of 10 quid records. Also the age of the records now means that those coming to the market are often not in great condition. So the decision is do you get a copy or leave it in the hope that someone sells, or one pops up on evil bay or somewhere. There are of course mint freaks and they probably wouldn't entertain a VG copy, but I think most would at the right price.

I think the Jaggerz break up was a little later, around '77. Sam Ippolito, former front man for The Teardrops on Max "Every Step I take", joined the Jaggerz in 76 and was vocalist until '77. I was told this when doing the research for the Teardrops article. Some info on Jimmy Ross https://sites.google.com/site/pittsburghmusichistory/pittsburgh-music-story/vocalists/jimmie-ross Andy

Some nice group soul lowrider tunes for your interest. Some of these also have great Northern and Crossover flips so you're getting a nice "twofer" for your cash money. Payment as Payapl F&F or add 4%. Post 2.00 First, 3.50 Recorded, 5.00 worldwide. PM to order or questions. YT clips are for reference. Sorry havent got a pic for Lional Abel as my scanner is down. Cheers Andy +++++++++++++++++++ 1. Here's a lovely Chicago twofer from the great Bunky Sheppard's own label by the Sheppards themselves. The Lowrider tune here is a lovely group harmony effort "I'm not wanted", and for good measure it's coupled with a super crossover tune which has largely been ignored in "Your Love has got a hole in it". This is a store stock copy in NM condition at £20 SOLD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tdva4JJIu5M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-9Gpc4PAkc 2. Here's an oddball rarity from Barbados of all places by Lionel Able and The Mischievous Guys, which surfaced a couple of years ago and is now in demand stateside among the Lowrider fraternity. 'Lonely Man' is a typical local label release with sparse backing, but has that sort of hypnotic quality. The copies I've seen previous have been in very poor condition like most Caribbean 45's. This one is a nice Ex copy at £25 SOLD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odub7CH23yQ 3. Nothing much can be said about the Diplomats who recorded many a fine tune which collectors seek. This tune cut for NY's Dynamo label is up there for me as one of their very best and 'I got the Kind of Love' is quite rightly now getting recognition on the Lowrider, Group soul and Sunday Session scenes. Here is a store stock copy say NM at £25 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPflGGQJedA 4. The COD's were one of Chicago's finest groups and had a slew of terrific records on the Kellmac label. Here's a great 'twofer' with the lowrider 'Pretty baby' combined with a pounding Northern tune ' I'm a good guy' which appears on dealer lists at £30. Here is a NM store stock copy for £15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubbDCqQ4k1E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u94oXkbc8S8

According to the soul harmony singles book: Orig Group: Delores Johnson (lead) aka Flora Williams, Eloise Hester, Joshie Jo Armstead On Modern: Vanetta Fields, Robbie Montgomery, Jessie Smith Other members: Tina Turner, Shellie Clark As The Mirettes: Vanetta Fields, Robbie Montgomery, Jessie Smith

Maybe some reissue ? Interesting tho. On the orig DJO label its "You Turn me on / Generation Gap". YTMO is a personal fave. A powerful, rumbling, moody track with great vocals.

Using the term "bootleg" and "counterfeit" on Ebay will get the items removed, as I was told by an Ebay that they have key word software which will identify it. I questioned it when I was selling some 70's boots about 10 years ago where the listing got pulled. "reissue" and "repro" will get through OK. So I guess some list 70's boots as reissues to get round it.

Not as good as the first story but here's one. Its around '75 and I've just turned 13 and been allowed into the seniors disco at the Chantry Youth Club in Chesterfield. Up until this point I've only listened to chart stuff, so when the DJ puts on Motown and Northern I go mental and think WTF is this its fantastic. It turns out the DJ used to do the warm up at Samantha's in Sheffield and was going out with a local girl and got the gig. Anyway the next day I proudly announce to my parents that I'm into Northern and Motown and hence forth do not disturb my ears with pop drivel. My mum says 'yes I've got some of that stuff'. Now I've seen my parents record collection and it ranged from Mario Lanza in the 50's through to the Beatles in the 60's, so I'm like 'yeh right mum'. She's taking the Michael here. The next day I come in from a game of footy with my mates on the street and Grandad is sat there with a cardboard box on the table. 'Have a look' says mum, so I open it up and, well f*** me, inside are loads of US Gordy, Motown and Tamla 45's in their sleeves, from Martha & Vandellas, Four top's, Temps, and so on. So now I'm looking a top tit in front of mum and dad and wondering how on earth they came across around 100 US 45's and where had they been - I'd never seen them? I never really got to the bottom of it except it was something to do with my Grandad's cousin's son, who had done some work for someone and had been given the 45's. He didn't want them so gave them to his dad who in turn gave them to my Grandad, who then gave them to mum, who didn't actually want them, so they were put in the loft. All clear everyone ? Andy

Probably best send a PM to get straight to the buyer. Click the envelope icon at the top right of the screen 👍

Here's a really soulful reggae tune that would appeal to many scenes. Sparse backing with gritty vocals and nice background harmonies. Anything involving Noel Bailey is always a great tune IMHO. This is a store old stock copy but lets call it E+. Post is 2.00 First 3.50 recorded and 5.00 worldwide Paypal as F&F please or add 4% PM to order or ask questions Thanks Andy _________________________________________________ Tempo & Jet Set - Sweetest Thing to Me - Impact £50 YT clip for ref only:

TBH Mike I've had the C-157 issues and DJ copies numerous times, but only once the C-185. At the time of 185 the label was distributed by Roulette and maybe they though WHIGTL was worth another push but it didn't take off, so didn't get an issue. Just guessing really...could be just rambling nonsense of course. Correction: Discogs does show an issue of C-185 as does the photo above Note to self: pay more attention. Andy Andy

Thanks for the info guys. All makes sense 👍

Just a question if anyone can answer. My idle curiosity working overtime. The colorful history of the label is quite well known and the fact that it stopped releases for a time before restarting. My question is this: I have Jean Wells - What have I got to lose on Calla C-157 and also on a white promo C-185 (see scans). I got this WDJ from the US, distributed by Roulette and date '72 The issue is that Dave Rimmers discography states that C-185 is Charlie Hodges - Slip around / easier said.... There is no mention of two releases or any white promo under any number ? Appreciate your thoughts as its bugged me for some time. Pressing plant or label mix up, maybe boot ? Did Roulette pull it ? ATB Andy

In this case its probably because there was a large US military presence in the Philippines around that time. I have the Ron Matlock LP on Cotillion with Philippino record shop stamps on the cover.

It depends on what you mean by "reissues". There are certain labels and individuals that quite frankly are bootlegging records and I can see that they will be using a copy of the original - pops, ticks and all, or maybe a tape of the track, hence dodgy quality. They are there to cash in and don't really care about quality or the buyer. However, there are those labels like Diggin Deep and Hit and Run (there are more not mentioned) that do a proper licensed release and and therefore use master tapes or some other format, maybe a studio acetate, that care about the artist, product and quality. My advice is stick to the labels that do this.👍 As for restricting the number of copies, that's a good practice, but on the flip side the soul scene has forever been about supply and demand and prices reflect this, even on new release stuff which is normally restricted to a few hundred copies. Even on older originals I've seen what were £5 'Front Page Specials' for the dealers 10 or 15 years ago which are now going for 500+. Its the nature of the beast I'm afraid.

This might be of interest Wilxy..... https://windlefreelance.com/2020/11/20/its-better-to-cry-the-appreciations-of-charlotte/ ATB Andy

Had the record about three times in years gone by. Never seen a cover for it tho'. However there are people that can make picture covers as someone did one for me years ago. Andy

They were the essentially same group and the same group of labels. I remember some discussion around this on the Satan's Breed (Jenges) thread. Jenges 4547 Indelgents - Stop (you're breaking my heart) / Give up (all i've got) Jenges 5002 Dream Merchants - Stop.../ The Girl I need (Master 458AA-1) Jenges 5002 Dream Merchants - Stop.../ Can't pull myself away from you (master 4548A label reads 'The girl I love) Jenges 5003 Dream Merchants - Since you left / The girl I need Jenges 5006 Satan's Breed - Since you left / Road Runner Renee 5002 Dream Merchants - Stop../ Give up (all I got) Sin 4553 Harry Moon & Fide - Stop.../ Woman's Man I've also got this one...... Sin 4554 Harry & Vee Vee - Without your lov'in / Inst. ATB Andy

Here a selection of old store stock and all except one will be NM. YT clips for ref Post 2.00 first, 3.5 recorded, 5.00 worldwide Payment by Paypal as F&F or add 4% please Questions or to order please PM Thanks Andy ++++++++++++++++++++++ Bunky Sheppard at his best with a lovely largely ignored XO outing The Sheppards - Your love (has a hole in it) - Bunky £15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-9Gpc4PAkc ++++++++++++++ Chicago and Bunky at his finest yet again with a cracking double sider The Esquires - The feelings gone / Why cant I stop - Bunky £10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1uWvedaGn0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apvXQKSi3yo +++++++++++++++ The Diplomats are one of those groups that we seem to forget despite recording for a number of labels including Wand, Minit, Arock, Fat Back etc. For me one of their best was cut for Dynamo and is fast becoming a want for group collectors with a copy going through Ebay at over £60 recently, but here its on offer as a mint unplayed copy The Diplomats – I got the kind of love – Dynamo £30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPflGGQJedA +++++++++++++++++ Here's a lovely crossover tune from the queen of soul herself Aretha Franklin. Often overlooked and deserves to be heard. Take a listen to the file Aretha Franklin - April Fool - Atlantic - £10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OAMQWAUCaM ++++++++++++++++ If you were asked for a record which has a killer slowie on one side and a great NS track on the other, for under twenty quid is there anything better around than this Chicago goodie and a mint unplayed copy on JM's at £30 COD’s – I’m a good guy / Pretty baby – Kellmac £15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u94oXkbc8S8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hVKp0DdZ6g ++++++++++++++++++++ Johnny Bristol cut many a fine tune, and whilst the focus seems to be on his 'Handshake' outing many of his others slip under the radar. Most notably for me is this track cut for Atlantic which deserves a wider audience. His usual smooth silky vocals soar over a catchy mid-tempo groove is just right for today. Here's a lovely white promo for you Johnny Bristol - Waiting on love - Atlantic WLP £20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-OiRHoPFQw +++++++++++ OK so this modern stepper is finally getting the recognition it deserves, and being spun by numerous name DJ's on the lock down scene including Mick H. There is one for sale on Discogs at £35 and prices continue to rise on Ebay, the last one I saw going up close to $50 (plus $15 post and 20% tax of course !!). A bonus is the nice crossover flavoured modern uptempo track on the flip. Here's a mint unplayed store stock copy....... Delegation - Oh Honey / Take me to the sun - Shadybrook £20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbMzoSVKp1Q +++++++++++++++ Philip Mitchell is an artist with many fine tunes to his name and this one is no different. A laid back slice of southern crossover, vocally effortless and in mint store stock condition at a bargain... £25 on JM's Philip Mitchell - Oh how I love you - Hi £15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhP9bL9MkK0 ++++++++++++++++++++ A classic modern tune from Alicia Myers. The vinyl is nice and shiny with one feint radial surface mark which does not affect play at all. Labels are clean, sound quality excellent, in its company sleeve with jukebox tag thrown in. Overall grading would be Ex Alicia Myers - I wanna thank you - MCA £25 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li_De5UGxLg ++++++++++++++++++ The ballad version from Odia hereself is a lovely tune but so is the catchy modern soul version store stock unplayed... Odia Coates & Paul Anka - Make it up to in love - Epic £10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4rXc3aDpgY +++++++++++++++++++++ Here's a much rarer and better version of Pat Lundy on Vigor, and Tim Brown had this listed at £100 on his list...store stock again The Rhinstones - Party music - 20th Cent £25 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T-TgULgAVs ATB Andy

Garry I think I've got nearly all issues up in the loft and I'll try and have a quick look. Alternatively Mr Pearson may have it at his fingertips ? @Derek Pearson Andy Mac

Hi I have available for sale: Ron Matlock LP - Love City - Cotillion £30, which include the classic 'You got the best of me' plus other modern soul tracks. The price of YGTBOM on 45 is probably 75 plus nowadays. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YSYmFf7K68 This is an original and not the later reissues. The Vinyl is in E+ condition and the cover Ex, with just a very minimal corner seam scuff and a feint stamp from the record distributor I think. I've included a stock photo of the cover for a reminder. P&P for UK would be £5. Paypal as F&F please or add 4% PM for order or questions Thanks Andy

One more on the modern side....Andy