Benji

In the foggy back of my memory I think it was either a link to an interview with MW or Milton himself posting on Soul Source many moons ago...

As far as I remember Milton Wright himself confirmed he recorded both tracks back in the 60s but they remained unreleased until late 70s.

Mick, thanks for clearing that up. Never heard of it being pressed on white demo and it's not mentioned in Manship Bootleg Guide #2.

What's the difference between an original W/D and a bootleg W/D? I'm only aware of the green label pressing.

here's a clip taken from a 2008 Keb Darge podcast. Anyone know this song? I know i've heard it before (I might even had it at one time in the past) but I can't remember artist or title. Can anybody put me out of misery? TIA Benji LINK

JD Bryant is a truly great song, wonderful production, good lyrics and matching vocals. The ambitious yet still rather amateurish approach adds a lot of charm to it. That approach doesn't work on all Shrine productions mind! Jackie Lee is a crap song. Average vocals on a song that doesn't really go anywhere. When I heard either song for the first time I didn't know how dear they were or what label they were released on. I only judge by the musical quality and JD Bryant sure is the winner.

Came out at least on a blue label Bretby Allnighters Anniversary bootleg (?) 12". Don't know if it was released in any other format

Ady, to be honest I think it's not bad but very astounding that somebody thinks your liner notes are worth reproducing Anyway, back to the thread: If there was/is any specific reason for CD sales going down since the late 90s it's the general file sharing/mp3 swapping to blame and certainly not home-compiled CDs. But personally I don't think that's the only reason for Goldmine/Goldsoul and Grapevine going out of business. I think the first simply didn't come up with any interesting CDS in their later days, i.e. rather unloving compiled CDs with boring sleeve notes. The latter, Grapevine, was too elitist to get sufficent sales, although I have all of their releases and think they were brilliant (apart from the Funk ones ). Giving away complimentary CDs at venues sure doesn't do any harm to official CDs sales, anybody saying so simply tries to find a cheap scapegoat. I always saw and will see CD freebies and home-made CDs being sold in small numbers as the natural successor to audio tapes. Of course advertising them on the net and selling in bigger numbers is just as illegal and immoral as counterfeiting official CDs.

In order to get longer tracks on a 45 grooves have to pressed more tightly. This very often ends up with poorer sound quality (low-fi) and very audible scratches even if they are hardly visible.

I guess you mean "New York City Walkers"? Haunting disco instrumental? That's unissued as far as I know. Ask Dave Thorley, he owns it

I'm with you on JDB but not sure about the Cairos, sometimes I think it's ok the next day I think it's rubbish. Personal top three Shrine tracks (that come to mind w/out 2nd thought): 1) Shirley Edwards - Dream my heart 2) JD Bryant - I won't be coming back 3) Ray Pollard - No more like me These three overshadow everything else that was recorded for Shrine (IMO!)

- Boots are getting sold here on Soul Source, hardly anyone is against that. - Most Northern Soul dealers in the UK and Europe stock boots, hardly anyone is against that. Yet you guys say it's immoral to sell boots/carvers on Ebay? Stop being hypocritical! If you guys really object to bootlegs getting sold as much as you say you do, get things going: 1) ban selling boots on Soul Source 2) report every dealer that sells illegal reissues to the authorities

Has anyone played track no.2 "I need your love"? This is The Masters on Crimson. Didn't know Hall and Oates were in that group too...

Nice to see they've included both of the Temptones 45s as well. I'll give it a listen tonight...

As said by Bob, rarest format is the vinyl issue which I'd value at about 300/350 on a good day..

Frame it and put it on the wall, or cut around the label and stick it on your DJ box, or melt it into a nice cup for your beloved ones hair ties (or flower pot if it's a 12"). Failing that I'd really put it into the collection I guess....

All records play graded. For condition of labels please see scans. Postage in Europe £3 regular, £5.05 registered no matter how many records. Outside Europe £6 and £8.05. Insurance available at extra cost. Please PM me if interested. AUDIO CLIPS AVAILABLE ON REQUEST!! VELVETS FEAT. LOUS PREJEANS - ESTELLE PARKER - BOFUZ EX £50 Recent biggie that sold for top $ until a few turned up. All copies have the label damage as seen on the scans DANNY MOORE - SOMEBODY NEW - ALLRITE M- £50 Genuine ZTSC stamped original. Note condition! JOE KENNEDY - SLICK TRICK/TODAY AND TOMORROW - ATLANTIC GERMANY VG++ £25 Very very rare german issue with the original picture sleeve. Proper Northern double sider, fetches £30+ on US

Don't want to hijack this thread but if anybody else is after this, just PM me ...

I already noticed three different ways to get around the free postage bit: 1) 'handling and packaging charge' 2) offering free postage only if you pick up the item yourself. and last but not least the best one: 3) Quotes like "Ignore Ebay's free postage policy! By placing a bid on my auction you accept to pay postage of $...."

Yes it is....

Last bump. Interest shown in a few discs left but non on hold or deals finalized yet. If anybody's interested please note that I'll be on holiday for a few days so any PM sent after tonight or record paid for after tonight won't be replied/posted before early next week.

The bootleg is white label with no lines and no "dj copy - not for sale" text. Every copy that doesn't look like this is an original, (b/w demo, r/w demo, black issue). Samson, I think you're wrong, IMO the one on Ebay is an original. Tho it doesn't look half as nice as a black issue...

Updated again, plenty of goodies left!!!!!

Whoever overpass60 is, he's selling an acetate that was cut in the 80s or 90s and is certainly not genuine. I think in one of the Manship bootleg guide editions it is mentioned as well that NSC wasn't even around in the 60s Chattahoochee3 is Tommy Potts he doesn't sell any bootlegs.

If Wand pressed up copies and destroyed most of them for whatever reason I don't think they did because of a typo in the artists name. Ivorys or Ivories doesn't really look that odd to me if you know what I mean. If they had mis-spelled the title like "Please stray" or so I'd say you have a point. Maybe Wand was premature in pressing copies, the deal fell through and they had to destroy all remaining copies?