Soul16

Looking for the following two 45s: Dottie and Millie - Talkin' about my baby - Topper Gerri Diamond - Only you - Counterpart Must look and play in at least Excellent condition - photos and sound clips would be appreciated. Please PM with condition and price if you have either one for sale. Thanks, Andrew

There is an original UK issued Chess copy around too, I bought it from Chris Savory at one of his record fairs. He was a massive fan of The Dells and insisted that I bought it blind, with the offer of returning it if I didn't like it. 35 years later, I still own it.

This is awful news. I first met Terry 37 years ago when I was just 17. I've shook that guys hand more times than I can possibly remember. Where does the time go? He was a lovely, thoughtful, unassuming man. RIP old pal Andy

PM'd you

Jeez, I feel quite aroused after reading through all those flowery descriptions

I can recommend the CD below, https://acerecords.co.uk/some-kinda-magic-the-songs-of-jerry-ross OK, it's not all Northern, or soul, but there's some great stuff on it. The other songwriter series CDs on Ace are excellent too. Hopefully there'll be a Randazzo/Pike/Hart compilation soon...

Nice, Do you use the 45 speed adapter, or is it LP's only on that beauty?

Nice to see the Linn Basik record player - I see far too much rare and collectible vinyl being played on 'toy' turntables these days.

Yep, My introduction to Northern Soul was in 1975 at the age of 12, via the Pye Great Disco Demands LP. Frankie and the Classicals was my favourite track on that album, I used to play it over and over again.

I guess because, A: It's a genuinely great 'iconic' 45 B: It's always in great demand, most of us older collectors have a copy, but the newcomers have yet to bag one. I agree that it's become very expensive, but as in all areas of collecting, the real quality stuff always retains it's status. As ever, values are a combination of desirability, condition and rarity. Desirability is the key with this methinks.

I think Fascinating Girl is a brilliant record, to me it's one of those records where the individual elements are not exactly polished performances, but when all mixed together, you end up with a bit of musical magic. I see the George Pepp 45 in much the same way.

This one gets my vote, used to be guaranteed to get me and the other clappers on their feet.

Correct, that would've been the venue name at the time.

I was there that night. If I remember correctly, the live appearance was at the Fenn Green hotel on the Kidderminster to Bridgnorth road.

Just a 'heads up', in case anybody on Soul Source has a bid, or is planning to make a last minute bid on the above item. I asked the seller to confirm that it was in Near Mint condition as stated in the title, he got back to me and said that he didn't realise it was advertised as NM, because he just 'copied the title from a previous listing'. I suspected that this may have been the case. Anyway, for those that are interested, from his reply to me, it sounds like a VG condition record. He was honest enough with me, but as I write, the listing hasn't been amended to reflect it's true condition.

To be fair, she clearly states 'I am of course open to very sensible offers', so if a sensible offer is accepted, you'll get one hell of a discount off the current £670 high bid

BBC Radio 2 playing this a lot lately, definitely growing on me.

'We cherish the music' - There goes that 'it's all about the music' line again. The music is cherished by collectors/DJs that care enough to seek out the genuine 45s, it is also cherished by companies that legally re-issue it on CD from original master tapes (where available), Ace/Kent being the finest example. It is cherished by those on our scene that seek out the artists that created those records and tell them how those often forgotten recordings they made are revered by us soulies, Andy Rix and Ady Croasdell, being just two examples. Being happy to dance to dodgy sounding fake records, spun by fake DJs is not cherishing the music, it's fake - just like this thread, this whole thing has to be a wind up and I must congratulate you on getting three pages out of this so far Merry Christmas

For sure, he's having a bit of pre Christmas fun methinks.

Just out of interest, what is your position on audio quality of bootlegs? Do you have any personal criteria in that regard, or will any old distorted crap do?

My understanding is that the Northern Soul scene was built around rare records, rather than rare recordings. Bootlegs and pressings are pieces of plastic with rare recordings cut into them, often with dodgy sound quality. 'It's all about the music' is often given as an excuse for playing boots too. For me, it's always been about those genuine rare records, where the DJ that fills the dance floor with those records is king.

Sometimes I wonder if the Northern Soul scene has been hijacked by internet trolls trying to wind us 'purists' up! The way things are going, I reckon it might be best to sell my collection of decent originals and find another interest in my old age. FFS

(In no particular order) Today they are: Howard Guyton - Slowly slip away, Epitome of Sound - You don't love me, Chi Chi - If you're gonna love me, John Bowie - You're gonna miss a good thing, Chashers - Without my girl. Tomorrow, the list could look a little different...

I think it's just 'if you' sung as 'if-a-you" I could be wrong of course

I think this is fairly close: "I can't give you up, no, I can't let you go, I can't let you leave, coz I still need you so, So baby please, baby don't leave, stay, I'm begging you please help, I'm drowning in my tears, coz my love for you is burning in my heart You're gonna miss my love if you should go away You'll thank your lucky stars if you decide to stay Oh baby, I'll change in every way, if you tell me you'll stay Hey yeah, I'm begging on my knees, please baby, if you'll only please help (break) You're gonna miss my love, if you should go away, You'll thank your lucky stars if you decide to stay, Oh baby, I'll change in every way, if you tell me you'll stay, Help, I'm begging on my knees, please baby, if you'll only please help (Please stay, please stay, please stay...) (fade) Oh I need you only, please stay here, ooh I love you."