Agentsmith

ken still has it

chris was running the i.s.c., responsible also for the imfamous o.o.t.p. bootlegs which came in the wake of the success of both the torch & wheel. there had to be a demand for displaying allegiances as well as having the latest tunes, so there was a range of badges including i.s.c., right on, the catacombs etc. always thought that the black badge was classy & traditionalist as opposed to what looked run-of-the-mill. so at first they appeared on jacket pockets & collared t-shirts, eventually morphing to holdalls, by this time it would be mecca & wigan era, so there would be considerably more choice. think there were bagdes for va-vas & the pendulum, steam machine, top rank, hanley...later on heart of england soul club, yate, cleethorpes....and so on & so forth. there's probably far more knowledgeable people on the subject on here than me, but one things for certain, theyve always been collectable if not as valuable as vinyl....suppose that also applies to membership cards.

wasnt chris burton responsible for a lot of the badges at the time and not just the torch?

DOH!!..... NOT NANCY BUTTS....................THE FANTASTICS - "ME & YOU" ON SOUND STAGE 7

sorry bro, looked and i cant find it...what page is it on and what heading is it under?

ditto len, quality tune and i also agree....its not rare yet, its incredibly hard to come across so......that makes it, a particular sort of "rare" ??...lots of copies.....but all in people's/dj's collections....oh, and the "KEEP MISSING THE LITTLE BASTARD" syndrome is also affecting me just recently....3 fantasics "me & you".....missed the lot......GGGRRRRRRR!!!

len's right......the header was: how many events are there.....NOT ovo wars...why have we gone off piste again??. the calender is what it is. history relates that the scene so very nearly went off the rails after the closure of the casino in 81, there was little or no appetite for plowing on when the focus of attention amounted to nothing but rubble along with the memories, yet,....here we are over 30 years later, buried under a deluge of choice...good, bad & indifferent...LEST WE FORGET, its our scene....we created it, and, is now as has always been,....OUR ESCAPE FROM MUNDANE REALITY. we need a reality check alright, what other scene HAS a calender??. im sorry if you OVO infiltrationists dont like it but....BUGGER OFF ONTO THE "WHAT'S IN YOUR BOX" THREAD IF YOU WANT TO KEEP UP THIS CHARADE!! :lol:

how good is this tune?, and so underplayed, very reminiscent of marvin's "aint that perculiar". more people should be getting it on the turntable, its so right for now.

cheers andy, yes on THAT soundsystem it was awesome and....amazingly people danced to it ( thought i might chance my arm ). walkway was buzzin' all weekend, soulsam absolute stunning performance and rammed when he was on.

my list; funk brothers - nowhere to run - unissued kim weston - you hit me - unissued brenda holloway - crying time - unissued attractions - burn up some road - de-to august moon - wasted years - o-gee checkmates - hey mrs.jones - arvee international gto's - i love my baby - rojac precisions - such misery - drew royal esquires - aint gonna run - prix richie adams - i cant escape from you - congress l.allen - cant we talk it over - green dolphin darrell banks - somebody, somewhere needs you - revilot eddie bishop - call me - abc cliff nobles - my love is getting stronger - atlantic dickie wonder - nobody knows - sound of soul bobby patterson - my babys coming back to me - jetstar timebox - beggin' - deram dottie & millie - talkin' bout my baby - topper irene & the scotts - why do you treat me like you do - smash ivorys - please stay - despenza vicky baines - country girl - parkway micky champion - what good am i - musette lainie hill - time marches on - new voice tobi lark - sweep it out in the shed - topper little jeanette - crazy, crazy - the green lights charlie rich - love is after me al hudson - when you're gone - atco dionne warwick - take it from me - wea inez & charlie foxx - no stranger to love - direction lp tina mason - what - capitol lp earl gaines - you belong to me - hbr lp jay & the americans - living above your head - u.a. lp soulful strings - comin' home baby - checker lp ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ashford & simpson - it seems to hang on - wea trammps - stop & think - philadelphia international bobby thurston - the very last drop - epic bloodstone - just wanna get the feel of it - motown aristocrats - lets get together now - coupe masters of soul - do you really love me - soul-tay-shus herbie hancock - wiggle,waggle - warner bros les mccann - sad little girl - limelight bobby bloom - where are we going - roulette terry & gerry - mama julie - r & b checkmates - hey mrs.jones - arvee dorothy beery - dont give me your love - big three norma rudd - he's mine - sure-shot aretha franklin - so soon - unissued little willie john - early in the morning - kent walter wilson - love keeps me crying - kent gigi & the charmaines - i dont wanna lose him - kent luther ingram - oh baby dont you weep - kent ........hope you dont find it all appaulingly predictable

THE ORIGINAL simon acetate didnt have the football crowd dubbed onto it and....for its time, sounded so much better...lets face it...we all danced to it back in the day, but it would be scraping the barrell to entertain it now.....you can thank pdd for its commercialisation of the track for its non-existance now, though they, in turn, wouldnt thank me for saying that, as it was probably their biggest seller. whereas....afternoon on the rhino still catches the imagination as a truly innovative stomper as much for the fact it dosnt exist in an original 7" format as it is also one of the finest lp discoveries of all-time.from a non-soul point of view, it hi-lites the unique talent of mike post who went on to produce tv themes for all-time classics, such as rockford files, magnum p.i. and hill st blues.

just a reminder to everyone on here and on the scene, next weekend is not just remembrance sunday but also armistice day, falling as it does on the 11th. would everyone kindly wear your poppy, be it at blackpool tower or any venue thats on over the 9th to 11th as a mark of respect...its very rare that this date coincides, so its of special significance. thankyou, rob

just tried to buy one on ebay but for some reason it wont let me, tried 3 times, put in my details but it keeps refusing. i am doing this using the guest feature.

that quote for me dean, brings a lump in the throat....a person can spend all their lives with that one sublimnal dream in their heads...yours came true and what an entrance i imagine it must have been. tc, a blessed musician whose work is a cosmopolitan tapestry encompassing afro-american music in its many formats but appealed to all colours. god bless you terry, r.i.p.

i remember the first time i actually heard it out...a wednesday evening at the catacombs in 74, blue max had just aqquired a copy of the lp......he played it 6 TIMES!!, and every time it packed the floor! a full on, kitchen sink record, that has, as has been said here, actually got nothing to do with soul music or northern soul for that matter, but fitted the 100 mph brigades bill for thrashing the dancefloor.

from my collection: august moon - wasted years inez & charlie foxx - no stranger to love doris troy - face up to the truth les mccann - strange little girl masters of soul - do you really love me judy freeman - hold on spiedels - dream girl ruby winters - i want action four tempos - this is the way i feel attractions - burn up some road think there's definitely a few chinstrokers in there!

and just for good measure, lets get anorak ( yes, its that old chesnut before you all chime in! ) due to a printing error, there are copies with the record label name: thomas, spelt tomas, thus its infinitely harder to find and costs more.

tower ballroom, blackpool...even if it is only twice a year, kings hall, stoke aint bad either.....but i would say that wouldnt i?

CATACOMBS, WOLVERHAMPTON...graham warr bought it back from the states on one of his epic record buying journeys along with a host of other never-to-be-forgotten classics. blue max made it the club anthem....wigan made it stellar. note: max was a law unto himself, he never went to the states...he didnt need to , with his little book of contacts and he had a good many monster tunes before ANYONE else, thus, saxie russell came his way. he cut me an emidisc of it...and i promptly wore it out!!,...i also love this record so much that i split my head open on a concrete beam in the club doing a flying backdrop to it...ah, fabulous memories!!

i think that if you still feel up to it, are fit enough both in body, mind and spirit and its how you get your kicks out of dancing to northern soul,...then just let it all out, never mind who gives a fook, you're doing it because you want to and there aint no law against it. dancing alone is such an adrenalin rush that the added dimension of acrobatics really expresses someone's feelings for the music they love..it beats sitting on your arse, thinking its all behind you ( literally ) and just accepting middle age spread and taking the negative attitude that people will only take the mick...when you're in that 2 1/2 minutes, the world and all its cynisism vanishes.

spot on dave, c & g got to be one of the best double headers ever! and i dont posess one however, i was thinking about spinning the demures at stoke or the tower,..then it gets mentioned here! if youre in early doors ( friday at the tower ) andy, come and have a word.

got this boxed set too, long since deleted and import only....whatever gets into these people that they think the brits wouldnt be interested in collecting this? if you're a marvin anorak, its an essential. correct me if im wrong, but as has been pointed out here, and before on numerous occasions...much of the duetting involved overlaying of vocals which, i presume, far outways what you would term live and in your face...so it would be reasonable to assume that marvin definitely preferred working with tammi ( as much as the fact he really liked her ) and probably to some extent, diana. in the case of this particular track it definitely sounds overlayed. in the essence of things though its still good to spotlight a talent that didnt get the credit she deserved, she was, afterall, another cog in the machine and if it was a case of trying to match up a mrs. right for marvin, at least she got her shot at it.

you know me & eulogies steve uncle ted loves em as well as mentioned here, lynn randell, paul anka and what about the tempests?...yes, some of em do float my boat

we just accept it as part of our fabric. northern soul now is even more of a patchwork quilt with the inclusion of rnb, latin, popcorn, beat ballads and all manner of modern stuff and the proverbial pop record still features heavily...like a fine wine, some "white tunes" age better than others,...i dont, for instance, think any of the carolina's stuff, that has influenced the scene for a good many years now, has waned...very few black vocalists on many of the well known ones as we all know, maybe because in the main, they're all frantic uptempo offerings. does it really come down to drawing the line,...and lets get to the crux of the matter here, where U.K. releases are concerned...about a different country having a go at mimicking good ole' U.S. of A.?. because, prior to the advent of motown, what did we really have here?....simples,...POP,..which was trying to find a direction after exhausting rock n roll. then the beatles came back from their first tour exhalting this "new black sound" thatwas sweeping america...and everyone and his dog wanted to make their sound upbeat and hip. and i suppose the djs back then also decided that they'd supplement their record playboxes which had such a limited quantitiy of american imports with british fillers, groups and artists aping the sounds from across the water...eventually they started writing their own compositions...so those lads in barrow-in-furness gave us the cbs collectable "you dont mean it" and sue lynn squeeled, "dont pity me",...then the eurovision also-ran spouted "9 times out of 10". in the states celeb white artists jumped on the black bandwagon hoping for a belated hit, but fortunately for us in blighty, they presented us with some quality tunes that still fit the bill. we accept it for what it is....part of our fabric...northernsoul is the only music phenomenon to embrace a kaleidescope of influences...would the scene have burnt out had we relied only on black imports?...who's to say. some will say that the scene is shagged out now, but there are generations emerging out there, who are seeing this music for what it is and what it represents, and to understand northern soul and its beginnings is to understand how pop music has been an underlying driving force in where its got today.

dave, i miss his posts as well mate, even though i wouldn't know him from adam, very intuitive, knowledgeable, pronounced and well respected amongst everyone on here i'd say....