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The Dynamics 'Yes I Love You Baby' needs no introduction. This copy would be close to mint if it was not for a thin short crack on the edge with a chip missing. The good news however is that it doesn't go in the run-in groove and so not only it doesn't affect its playback rendition but it does not impose danger on your needle either. That's for the beloved 'Yes I Love You Baby' side. As for the flip 'Soul Sloopy' the crack do go little deeper into the run-in groove and in the firsts resolutions of the music to play with few odd pops. The odd factor somehow is that both sides are affected visually as in playback rendition differently. Hopefully sparing the 'better' side. Sold As Is with full on mp3's, scans and a photo of the 'injury' on the 'Yes I love You Baby' so no cheating here. Regular Shipping Included + £10 to have it sent registered. PM me for inquiries. ynamic top ten.mp3

Whooo although a firm favorite here for long indeed going by your description I couldn't have guess this one... Not Motown-esque at all to my ears as this is brute, hard, raw, nitty-gritty with street level attitude and even anger. Although fantastic in my book it's destined to remain underplayed (hopefully maybe) on the Main Street events or those TOP500 commercial crap ones as it's just too hard for the fancy synthetic Sunday dancers to keep up with it.

Cringe that 'Social' thing. Sam & Kitty 'polished' sound and that 'Tidy & Rough' vid & act / dance is so bad. Puke !

The Royal Esquires find seemed a bigger batch than that of the Betty Lloyd and Cara Hardy ones but the Dream Team seems of even bigger quantity. Just saying by the numbers regularly coming continuously on the market since the first ones. Auctions do have their share of enthusiastic speculation players apparently to add their share of bias. Then the Low-Rider scene enthu$ia$m also comes into that equation with their own price incentive 'flava'.

FWIW I much prefer the visual of the stocker (especially in company sleeve) but it's also cheaper and mostly not prone to such 'trouble' if ever. But the promo is indeed rarer.

When the description is of the record "history" and not of the actual record offered for sale I call it what it is ; a seller's technique into fooling. Such perversion (because it serves only his interest to the depend of the other) in 'illusion' is a common practice in consumerism's commercialism.

Yep. Get your money back ?

As Chalky says and the fonts of some typos are significantly different from the original promo white label variant (3 pressing plants involved for the original pressings in 1979) here below and the outer edge of the molded label has a rounded dip. Telling that yours here above is the reissue or bootleg. I don't know what's the real nature of this later made for the NS scene pressing...

Rarity doesn't mean demand for it. A mispress with no "better for it but only less" and colored label. Mojo is not much. James brown has nothing really rare or requested for dee-jays. Early LP's in good condition and some UK singles are "collectors" items with prices accordingly. So this is most common (71 for sale on discogs) go figure...

Not coilectable for James Brown collectors or UK labels collectors I should believe. Odd, strange or even mysterious but nothing intriguing or interesting really.

So I do get Mal C point but indeed as you also refer more precisely to the way Steve talks about it when you ask him about his record credited to 'the Hollidays' his instant response goes ; 'Easy Living' and 'I've Lost You' . Meaning he talks about the record and BOITH sides of it. The same way I hear you and all the rest of it that point out that way.

Sounds and feels like Steve Mancha to me but only singing almost 'unwillingly'. Most evidently on the 'I lost you' side I mean where the singing sounds unenthusiastic. Although we know he clearly didn't want his name associated with 'easy living' mostly. Evidently an against nature recording session for him. Like Steve Mancha it's a 45 I never liked. Way before realizing better who were these Hollidays or got to know Steve Mancha's gear better and the soul hero he'll turn out to be for many of us.

Years ago I read on a 'rarest promo releases' on here someone posting that this promo was dog rare. But is it so rare that it just doesn't exists (sarcasm) ? There's at least 2 variants pressings of it. One with bubbly, shiny and livelier green color label and one with mat, flat and more army green like color label. Even seen a copy stamped with an 'A' (like for side) sort of a 'plug side' marking if ever but that's only that. Maybe just some random dude's stamp as well. Anyway in my book this is only a stocker dressed up if ever. Even if those were used as such for promotion. Anyone knows if a white label promo of this exists ?

Interesting so pressed at Monarchs but using the Bestway masterings and masters. Must admit my Bestway copy does sound amazing. FWIW here's my little correction with a now seen Monarch light blue stocker like featured in 'supercorsa' video here above DOH ! ;

Andrew Shelley Haims seemed to have some recourent issues first noticeably with his Sport 103 released twice and twice wrong. One time for the artist credits on the A side then a second time on the B side. With the First Four Sonics 45 for Sport 110 that was issued locally first in August 1967 then picked-up for national promotion and distribution by the Amy-Bell-Mala group in December 1967. It was then pressed by Best Way pressing plant. By February 1968 the Appreciations released their second Sport 45 recorded in North Carolina this time (nothing Detroit in there but Willie Mitchell's still under heavy Detroit influence) on Sport 111. While subsequently Andrew Shelley Haims still in a ball of confusion again for this last but sublime May 1968 Four Sonics attributed wrongly the same catalog number Sport 111 to the recently released locally Appreciations 45. Mistake noticed likely too late. This last Four Sonics was pressed at Best Way pressing plant and is seen mostly as the white promotional label and as the pale blue (apparently some believe it to be white but it's pale or very pale worn / washed out maybe but not white) stocker. Then there's the rarer Monarch promotional white label copy as shown by 'theothertosspot' that do pop-up on the market from time to time. But then we're yet to see a Monarch stocker of it if ever it exists... Hence that this last Sport 45 ever was the only one from his catalog that never had a local self distributed pressing. It only got an Amy-Mala-Bell distributed release. All of this could have participate in the mayhem confusion that took place simultaneously between his office and the Amy-Bell-Mala one. Was all this too much for him to drop out of the game (Boss and Sir-Rah became silent too) rather than a supposedly withdrawal of the Appreciations 45 ?

Well thanks a lot for all that. Fab stuffs. Will have to re-read as there's a lot there. But this bit here mostly at first at least answers my quest about the nature of involvement or relation with Jerry Butler in this 'stellar galaxy' of gifted people who all joined together managed to give us the iconic ivories sole record 'please stay' . Not yet how come or why exactly Jerry Butler became the owner of the Overcome Publishing Co. but that I'm afraid we'll never know.

Yes it is as 'dukeofburgundy' indicate with it's slice of the Numero Group' blurb that sets back the group into its musical journey from Texas to the Big Apple... Their Whiz and Dynamic gear are solid, this Atlantic side is sublime and their first Popsicle is fair yet poppy as the label indicates and the followings have their devotees but me not. Respect due I've always find this 'Give In' way too 'sassy' and the flip sounding like tortured 'pop'. Nothing measured, deep, rooted and mellow like their previous sides. And so never kept a copy of that one. Only sold them back then cheap for the dancer sides. Then their Verve 45 just nothing to be concerned about. Goes to show.

Thanks for bringing up the matrix / catalog numbering 'clue' Tony. Didn't see that yet... Making it worth considering that the date of the recording was indeed December the 2nd of 1966. Allowing us to believe the first Despenza release to follow shortly, to make its small buzz locally and to seal a deal with Wand thereafter in March 1967. For pressing plants to have pre-printed labels in quantity is true only for big or major labels. Agreeing to rely only on labels to set dates can indeed be hazardous. But in this case for a small label's sole release for likely a humble run of pressings where one can clearly see that the whole credits were printed at the same time with the logo it's fine. As for the small block supposedly the first press (confirmed by witness back then Robbk to be seen first in local record stores) similarity with other late 1966 and early 1967 small Chicago presses like Willie Cager on Contact (a Barry's Despenza label) or Marshal & Chi Lites on Daran / Daren is more than safe to assume it is from '66 / '67. As for the two following re-releases on Despenza they are evidently coming out of the same pressing plant but were printed on different papers and feature different layouts and logos. Implying necessary different runs of releases and dates. Finally the similarities with the other late 1970 and early 1971 Chicago presses coincidence seems very unlikely.

No but all that consolidate facts is welcome. The interesting 'inside' story if ever in there yet undisclosed if it can ever be is the fact that Earl Smith is Jerry Butler's bother in law. That I didn't know. Jerry Butler who seemingly got hold of the Copyright by acquisition of the 'Overcome Publishing Co.' by July 18 1968. Was that a legal necessary step for a re-release on Despenza after the Wand deal ?

OK, so we would have this Despenza 470 by the Ivorys released somewhere between July 1966 up to anywhere early 1967. Then came the Wand deal for national promotion and distribution but it just didn't go far there after it's release in March 1967. Hypothetically came this re-releases on Despenza 12266 pressed again by Barry himself somewhere in 1968 to cash in back on the Wand biz mess up. Locally it seems to have got some action at least going by the few but worn some copies found when they are. This is all hypothetical going by the label specifications too as some Chicago labels started to get those fonts and typos by 1968. For example the Soul Majestics on Chicago Music Bag for an early example I can think off. These were used up to the early / mid 7T's. The most 'desired' design (mine as manies anyway) but most likely last in line too. Hailing from the same pressing plant as above but seemingly a 1970 or 1971 press I believe. Matching others like the Center Stages on Dispo (Barry Despenza's too) or the Brothers of Soul 'dream' on Shock featuring those 'mixing up 'in your face' fonts and typos to very catchy effect IMO...

Oops you're right Roburt my bad. Now corrected. Thanks for that. What a lovely chart selection FWIW. truly. Full of goodies that I dearly love. Still in the whole picture it does participates in the Barry Despenza ascension whole out of 'the darkness' and into the 'spotlight' in the Music Industry.

Nope I still miss one Philly Labels Book and no matter what pity they now seek through the main medias the vigor they took promoting their forthcoming products and cashing-in on pre-orders just wasn't rivaled by the way they handled their orders glitches (am polite) and communication (take that) towards letted down customers after. Me, Myself and I hipsters they are IMO. Taking pride in showing off standing as victims now. What an insult that is for the vexed customers (never mentioned). The whole picture is evidently more complex. But simplified ; a bunch of enthusiast wanna bee's in that business who didn't care about customer's respect started that and got burned.

Great though. Every little factual bit is helpful at this stage. This could mean that the 'small' block fonts Despenza logo press must date some time around that time. If we still agree that this press out of the 3 Despenza was pressed first that is. FIWIW this idea is mostly based on John Manship's theory and I didn't try to seek much into that harder yet.. Then likely by March 1967 it was picked up on Wand (9 months later ?) and then even later in 1968 it would have been repressed on the large block fonts logo and last on the 'italic' Despenza fonts logo.

Looks great as I'l sure it'll be essential reading. I'll need 2 or 3 of these this side of the pond (in Belgium) to satisfy the need of those who do read ! FAB job.

Thanks for those 2 Roburt lovely Surveys. For 2 resolutions. Fantastic. Will provide to 45Cat.com Could this set back their first release on Shock somewhere back down to earlier 1970 ? ... This sets back Woman (Candace Love) on Shock to be third and not first (December 1971). And finally their Criss Cross rerelease on Boo up as early 1968 maybe ? ... As I think it is.