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... You won't fool us Robb 🧐, this UK company sleeve is not aiming to dress an American record 😉

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Buddy & Stacey ‎'angel' on Twirl - Much much better IMO ! FWIW John Parker 'a big mistake' is my play side 😉

Yes, June 1966 (July on 45cat.com) for the Modern release. Now one would need to have authentification confirmation on the actual existence of this most odd looking Holiday Inn copy vinyl or only image. We're late on this thread but still could we know who was the initial source of this 'image' ? Jbs's own or borrowed ... The old tipping machine typo have weird "clouds" behind the lettering ; digital paint brush job ?

Would this Holiday Inn 'complimentary' advance copy' freebee be post the Modern release ? As the Bihari Brothers (Jules, Joe, Lester and Saul) were the actual founders of Modern Records. The Modern release would also rather indicates that with the BMI - Modern music - Pub. Co. ! Odd a little that the Holiday Inn record discography halts in 1963 to resurect in April 1968. This is likely super rare as it would have been a small run given away at one promotional gig...

And is it the same take as the Modern release ?

Or was that only Richard pseudo for his cover-up of 'what can I do' ?

That's the realistic whereabout value for this record I am now incline to believe. Thanks guys. Even if JM might double that if auctioned... But that's not my "sport". All respect due to the man evidently 😉 On the East and West coast (or different pressing plants) and label variations on the title alignement I am yet to see that. I've seen many variants (from different pressing plants) on some RCA's but not this one !

Thanks for your input. Much appreciated. Although I have to disagree on the "northern soul" 'appeal' of it. Have that record for 35 years now and it's always been regarded as that since day one for me. Mind you I am only 51 years young and not British so what do I know ? 😉 While I agree that it takes legs full of energy to keep up with the pace of the tune, making it not a 'IN' records by today's flow, it still is 'northern soul' IMO. Indeed if someone would need such a clean copy of a record that is almost common on demo it would need to be a completist RCA stocker collector. Not a 'dee-jay' really nor a collector like me who collect sometimes promo and other times stockers only for the visual preference or the double 'A' side factor when there's that. Maybe back in the days stock copies where floating around but today seemingly really not as much. Making it hard for me to 'value'. Once !

One sold on the eVilBay in 2012 for not much money IMHO ($171), one was also auctioned on the 'northernsoul45s.co.uk' site and a last one was auctioned (from that BBC library collection I believe) via the 'sale-room.com' British auction site. Anyone knows how much for these last two went for ?

Worse it is getting everyday. Price wise at least. That's never a good news. Records were all over about to be "crate dug" in shops, warehouses, collectors collection, private dealers or at fairs. Much less so today. OK it required for one to move, travel, find the 'connections' but for the 'brave' the gain was the prize of the effort. Like the 'rare' soul scene it was all "underground". Crate diggers of the "old school" were doing it for the passion of the music and/or the records with for reference their sole ears and knowledge, sniffing the right 'bite'. Then they have been put in competition with packs of hunters doing it for the money with discogs for reference. Trades were also easier. Now because of the internet the whole speculative aspects of those 'rare' records have driven many of the prices beyond realistic reach. Meaning only money can conclude a deal. Allowing many with more 'green power' than before to come into the 'collecting' game with a lazy 'click'... Passion ? To discover something on the internet just satisfies my curiosity. Yes I use the internet for such purpose as well. To buy, sell and trade also. But as said before, to discover a record it just doesn't involve the same excitement for me as it is like in a 'club', at a friend's or at home with a "newly" bought record never heard before.

Yes his wonderful M-S sides.

All I get ;

Am in Belgium and from here all I get is 'Wigan patch' banner. Likely an eB geographical option thing... No name nor website from here. Could I be so bold to ask you to PM those to me ? 😮

Hi does anyone know who's that and if he's on here maybe...

Both these copies look "legit" from standing point. From memory the boot label was also too white (not yellowish/wahed out) and shiny instead of mat FWIW. Unlike those blanks/stamps pressings you link here. Although the Bronco labeled copy is shiny and the right/best way to own it IMHO. But am/was a collector...

There you go : a stamped one that looks right https://www.discogs.com/Boris-Gardiner-A-Groovy-Kind-Of-Love-More-Than-Words/release/14895426

Yes logically. Could or should be but I've not seen any...

The Bronco's should be all real. The real blank's should be thick vinyl with deep scratched in 'dyna' (-mic) matrix. Old memories can't be more precise than that. If ever I can ask a friend who has the Bronco for a full matrix...

FWIW back in the 9T's a blank label boot was made and sold as if it was the Jamaican real deal thing. It was aiming for the London reggae revive crowd as that "soul" side was pretty much in vogue on that scene back then. If ever beware with any 'Jamaican blank' copy that one would propose you and make sure the matrix looks right.

Name & sha (lo) m (e) the (d) *ude... His French is so fluent... I never expect. The "rip-off" guy incarnation then & then lately.

'You want to change me' on American Philips 45 pressings all suffer a 'hiss' all the way through. As if it was something that went wrong with mastering job or with the master template... For myself I kept a Canadian pressing that like the British copy (same method) dubbed the American record to re-master it and get rid of what they found not to their liking. In this case an evident pressing flaw that for some reason that escapes me got through the quality control stage... Although it's a "cleaner" version (in this case rather crucial for a proper playback time) it's also poorer in a way due to that dubbing process. I do hear the difference and I know where my preference is most of the time ; with the original country of lease.

Not me ! I have many great styrene pressings that I much prefer to the vinyl pressing counterparts if they ever came out on both. What is a fact is that styrene is more prone to wear than vinyl. But what a good mastered and pressed styrene record can dish-out on a proper phono set-up is much deeper sound wise than that of any vinyl pressing can achieve in playback. Philips styrene pressings (Blue Rock, Mercury...) are not great. Very true. Their mastering job so-so. Prone to high frequencies distortions. And the styrene plastic quality weak. Even mint they sound "bad" in comparison. Motown's styrene where pretty good for example. Although I've had some that I much prefer on vinyl. The earbuds have their reasons that the head can't explain. There's good styrene out there like there's bad vinyl as well. What one should never forget either is that those records were made to see a large conical stylus on a MONO cartridge. To get it right in the first place will give you the best out of the groove as well. Then there's the rest of the phono chain but that is all together another matter. But of utter crude importance still.

I'm totally incline to believe it can exists. Your post participate to that theory 🤔 Although confirmed but not proven yet ! What I understand is that you say that it would rather be looking like the Joe Quaterman following release from their catalog but with the same Anderson Brothers promo copy font... I find that hard to realize since it would mean different pressing plants but same templates... Very unlikely IME. When it's either one or the other. Could it not looked more like the Billy Cee (promo & stock are made with identical templates) ? That one is contemporary to the Anderson Brothers and from the same pressing plant. Vinyl thickness variations for a same record from the same pressing plant is something I've seen few times FWIW.

No offense here 😉 but it does hold up. For one ; OK some of the previous releases on the label did not featured the 'stereo' quote. But contemporary releases to the Anderson Brothers all did. For two ; see that the given matrix is always preceded by a 's' for 'stereo'. Not on the 'image' though. Finally find me another release from that label with a similar label as that 'pixel' image and I might vouch for it then. Too many things are not right with that 'image'.