Steve G

The album, yes jazzy thing I believe? For a moment I thought you'd found a copy of the Teri Crispino 45 on Wand.... I wonder if it's the bird on linkedin?

Hi Ady, Dunno about Bob, but I have never seen the Teri Crispino 45 on Wand. Unless someone turns one up, I think it's a mystery "did it ever come out?" one. If it did come out it was probably only promo'd in Chicago. All you ever see is his 1977 LP. Steve

Sorry Cunnie it was my attempt at irony....obviously flew over the rooftops m8.

Very true John. And I think it's funny how the 'soul police' have vetted everyone's collection and are able to make definitive calls. Plenty of folk keep quiet, under the radar etc. For British I do know people like Mick Smith, and Pete Widd have had great collections in the past amongst a host of others, US it's anyone's guess. Robb K is also right though back in the early 80s Soul Bowl barn was a phenomenal place to be. But for collectors perm any 10 from 100 and you'll find some names that are not the usually banded around in the cafeteria at the police station.

Thanks Ady, I must have the Phil La one knocking about on the shelves....

Yes Sam is not physically able to use a CD player. :

So he married Louis Williams in the late 60s after her recording career by the sounds of it? I often wondered about Lois Lane - thanks for the info, Steve PS: Think Ady might be right about the record not coming out, I cannot find any trace of it actually existing beyond listings.

No not confused at all Wiggy, these are pretty much all oldies. Two People has been on a big revival for a while now, great tune, but am afraid I won't be popping over to Southend for a night out. Sorry.

Yes I agree on these funny versions. I first heard this with the Carstairs supposedly doing "Stick by me baby", a few years ago awful, awful awful. And about as likely as England "winning on penalties". Now there's a limp version of "I'm gone" doing the rounds. Like you Mark, I don't get it.

And that brings us nicely full circle....back to the beginning of this thread. Russ - a man who singlehandedly lives off the reputation of the Casino, always had dodgy taste in my opinion, and seemingly has no records left worth speaking of....and yet despite all this....he succeeds in drawing a crowd.....in Southend of all places. He also seemingly draws a crowd wherever else he plays. I rest my case. Two scenes, so why can't we let those that just want a party and don't care about anything else get on with enjoying their nights out on the town, clapping in unison to Frank Wilson and other "Casino Classics".

Thanks for this interesting post Sebastian, mine is 002. Steve

Thanks Dave will listen out for that when I catch up tomorrow. The other one is called "Restless". Steve PS:Didn't know Alton edwards was in the band.....

Likely she also had the release oN Scepter.

Hi Mark, there's another dimension both Jackie Wilson and Ruby Andrews (I am sick to death of them by the way) are both very 'easy on the ear' and catchy / black pop records, a bit like Unique Blend say. Contrast that with another Stafford record - Ree Flores "Listen to my heart" -where (a bit similar to what Glyn T said I think) I was once asked to "take it off" the turntable and "play some northern" instead. I do think it's a real challenge for guys in the far south to get the balance right, as you've got a relatively small community who have to be happy.

Hi Brett, Ian Levine had it back in the mid / late 90s, I think he may have got it from Steve Plumb originally, so probably a Steve Plumb discovery? Anyway when Levine sold up a few years ago, it's one of the ones I got off of him in a job lot in exchange for some cash. That's why I asked the question, as Levine also reviewed it in one of the mags at the time. The other side isn't bad either. Steve

Hi Harry, I can well remmeber going to local clubs as a teenager and boots of the latest big things being played. Not condoning it, but it did happen back in the day. Only difference was I suppose they were new big things (off the Colin Bee list / Selecta etc), rather than old big thinks, if that makes sense.

I haven't had a chance to listn yet. Is this Soul & Blues Union on Atlantic? Was Mark Baildon the lead singer or something?

Yes I am sure that's right Joan and a lot of people would want a bit of both. We've been saying for ages you can't just play newies allnight. People need some familiarity as well. Flip side of the coin, as long as you wed yourself to the oldies part of the scene, then these debates will rage with increasing futiliy and irrelevance. It's like watching water going down a bath plughole. ATB Steve

Are we talking about records or are we talking about the music, or both? Some people know a lot about records (to the ones already mentioned I'd add Butch, Andy Dyson), others a lot about artists (Tony Rounce for example). But the fact that no one knows everything or anything approaching it, is what keeps this all SO interesting. How boring it would be if people knew everything there was to know.

Managed to get this a few months ago. "It ain't like it used to be / I'm on sick leave" original label before IX Chains. Does anyone know anything about the label (apart that it was from Memphis etc.). How it got leased to IX Chains etc? Steve

Bearsy, Sorry mate and understand where you are coming from, but you are still not getting it. For 90% of the "scene" it's all about going out, having a larf, chat to your mates, booze, dance to familiar music, then go home. And that's it - end. They want nothing else from the soul scene, except maybe some CDs to play in the car from time to time. For a promotor sure CC is a big name who'll pull people in. I mean if they put you or me on in Newcastle, hardly anyone would turn up. These 90% make up the backbone of soul nights, weekenders etc. in the UK whether you or I like it or not. Then there's the other 10% who are loosely a mix of record collectors, people who want to hear something different mixed in, OVO folk who still like the founding perinciples, and some DJs who are constantly looking for something new to play. Within that 10%, as Jocko says there are a lot of 'wannabees' who think by playing some poor quality old B sides and soul pack terrors they're "cutting edge". "Underplayed"? Some records are underplayed for a reason... And incidentally the crossover and 70s "scene" has become even worse than the 60s scene in that regard. You can almost certainly count people who are digging beyond their old classics on two hands there. ... Sorry mate, but this parrot is dead, and it's not going to change. I don't know about jump at the chance but we've all probably ended up there on the odd occasion.....Have done a few gigs in the past which I assumed were OVO only to find they were only part OVO and 'Odd Job' has come on and played a few boots.

Didn't we discuss all this a few years ago? I thought we'd bottomed out what was and what wasn't issued back in the day.

True enough. But everything is relative Bazza. I remember seeing a Lou Ptride in a box in the late 70s for £35, and my mate selling Barbnara Mills UK demo for £70 to Keith Minshull @ Wigan. These sums were a fortune back then. No way could I afford a Lou Pride.

Thanks Steve, WOuld be great if we could put this mystery to bed.

You mean Scepterical surely? So the likely scenarios are either: - Pye were going to put it out in response to the hit with "Armed & Extremely dangerous", but by the time they woke up, the follow up "Smarty pants" was all set to go, and used the Scepter B side "One step away" as it's flip, so they had no B side. - It was prepped up as a potential Pye Disco demand release c.1975.