Chalky

They have been to Lifeline, danced most of the time they were there.

Nice one. Richard always speaks well and talks sense. Will listen to some of the others as time allows.

There's a few different takes of Andy Fisher.

He was also a piano player playing on Marvin's Let's Get It On.

Looks like another boot.

Some of those in circle skirts and baggies aren't even dancing in a northern style, dunnowhat some are dancing too at times but it ain't the record playing.

Spencers are still making trousers in Sowerby Bridge, mainly sporting trousers, golf plus fours etc.

But many of those in baggies aren't very good with the footwork, just throw themselves about. Same in dance competitions, all the best dancers sit down as they know the judges will pick the acrobatic ones. I'd sooner watch good footwork, with the odd floor trick, in the right place at the right time, than some one who simply does acrobatics for the sake of it!

The program covered nothing really in little detail, as usual.

Is that 2 or 3 or two thirds Win? I've never in all the time I've gone to the 100 Club seen two thirds dressed up as though it was 1977. Odd ones yes but never the majority. LIke you I don't go very often now, probably once a year so it could have changed.

That's the guys

I watched it last night and I still keep asking myself why bother. It does nothing for today's scene except it focuses on the people echoing the words of Dave Withers, "If Wigan closed it would be like instant nostalgia, spending the rest of my life looking back", or words to that effect. That is exactly what those portrayed are doing, looking back, living in the past, living in clothes that were in fashion for just a couple of years, some of the dancing me me cringe, trying to high kicks when they can only get there leg two feet off the floor and not even a straight leg. Some of the moves were nothing to do with the music being played. People can dress how they want but by and large most people wear today's fashions. As for the drugs, after that I doubt anyone will tll their employers where they go on a weekend for fear of being tainted by what was said in the documentary. Bruce Lee, wtf? He was bugger all to do with the dancing. It is plainly obvious and evident the dancing originated in the states and came over with the big band and thejazz dancers. You only have to watch Tommy Hunt and the Flamingos and some of the Jazz dancers, the two brothers whose name escapes me, to see this. Yes some were in to martial arts and mixed it with their dancing, Keb for one but this wasn't where the moves originated. It started well, giving a fairly decent account of the scene in its infancy in huge time allowed but as soon as it came up to date I felt like turning it off.

Isn't John's another take? Here is the listing, sound files still there. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Little-Reuben-aka-Ruben-UNRELEASED-LP-ACETATE-Detroit-psych-funk-deep-soul-HEAR-/271270532063?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item3f28fbd3df&nma=true&si=p%252FWjWLJoOcBXh6BJU9sZVKlVHsc%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

I know this is of no use but there was an unreleased acetate LP went through ebay last week or week before with a different take of this on it.

People aren't milking the above venues for what they can get out of it.

It's all about money and nothing to do with Wigan.

I've been seeing swallows and martins up until last weekend as far apart as Scotland and Norwich. Can't say I've looked this week though.

Oddest looking J ever.... And t'other design....

https://www.carolinasoul.org/north/j.htm

It's irrelevant what they call or think of themselves Win, they are after all promoting an event and taking money on the door. It also has an effect on the scene as a whole, often detrimentally. Some of these part time promoters have to sit back and take alook at what they are doing and what effect they are having on the scene. Often they put a venue on without taking a look what is already happening and in the process splitting an already dwindling crowd. Many of these promoters probably promote because they aren't getting a set elsewhere? This is one of the cases where more isn't always better IMO. We definately aren't spoilt for choice, we just have a plethora of venues with the vast majority offering the same old same, that IMO isn't a choice.

They might not be buying records Pete but I can assure you they haven't left the scene. I wish they would though and it can go back underground and the music will be what is all about first and foremost once again.

The question should be "So many promoters....why?"

The rock and roll scene was all about new releases initially (my dad was a teddy boy and he was buying new releases), as was the rare soul scene to begin with to a certain extent and to some extent throughout it's history. The rock and roll scene that focused on the 50's and 60's soon became what the northern scene has largely become now, retro and more a social scene with little emphasis on the music. By the time Wigan arrived the scene was focused on records 10 years old.

I would imagine he means focusing on records that aren't new releases when he refers to the past, that is how I read it. Those records were of course in many instances new discoveries to those there at the time but still from the past. Other music scenes were concerned with records of the day.