Chalky

Looking forward to the releases. James Lately and the Tomangoes are just fantastic Just great to see the reactions of those involved with these releases as well, what it is all about really

On this weeks show Dean is in conversation with Richard Searling.

Given what has trickled out on ebay and what was in the hands of sellers at Austin etc a mate reckons there was more than 25. Regardless it doesn't appear to be affecting the price as buyers don't seem to care for some reason. The avarice mentioned in another topic of buyers and sellers.

most can be had from a few quid to around a tenner

Some have definitely turned up. At least 25 but a mate reckons i to three figures. ebay sellers feeding them out, they were at Austin for $800 as well.

10.000 easy IMO. Just look at the output of Detroit without even looking at Motown. 100s of labels in one city alone during the peak in the 60s. Then you have the major cities such as Chicago, Philly, LA, Washington. The number of labels alone must run well into 4 figures.

It is far from credible though to use as a guide, the prices are all over the place. Just look at the record in question that sparked this and as I said far too many have deserted ebay because of all the costs, postal issues and rising issues around fraud/theft.

What Blackpoolsoul posted is what Jo posted Sunday or Monday. Since then there has been a full apology from the Jubilee Committee.

The northern scene with its blinkered outlook to format is depriving itself of some outstanding music. Just look at what has come from the vaults and now on cd.

Its a mistake as far as I am aware. Her first Lp was 2017 on Expansion and like Mark says I doubt this track would have been missed by everybody.

With the unpredictable postal services, the high price of postage from the states, import tax etc, the £89 for the last copy soon goes into three figures. I must be stupid too as I rarely use ebay now and cannot remember my last purchase from abroad on there.

Given that many buyers and sellers have just about given up with ebay its hardly a barometer of what is happening in the market place especially when it is fetching more elsewhere.

🙄 not sure where you get your figure from? There isn’t that much recent history for this. I can find one sale for £100 in 2017, vg+. Another from2016 for $75. Don’t think there has been a sale on discogs for quite sometime either.

Do you think 300 is enough? I don't and it would appear many other don't given the many topics and comments about records selling out not just here but all over social media. As a dealer in anything you should expect stock on the shelves and surely no one thinks a record is going to sell in days do they? They should be prepared for record not selling out for maybe two or three years. There are plenty of labels that press 500, quite happy to have some stock, make no comment about how many they press (other than what I've been told personally) or how many they have left. They are. quite happy to take some time to sell out. Is a label owner happy enough to come on here and break down the costs? There must be money in it as many have come to market and more to come. Like you I'm beginning to think more and more about what I buy especially presses of material that has been on CD for years. There are too may releases as it stands.

obviously

But Jo is a genuine person and knowledgeable and like I said she can only work with what she has at her disposal. The problem is the older generation cannot and will not represent what they were supposed to be representing, a young athletic, cool dance scene, underground and edgy.

What makes a mockery of all this is once up on a time, repress was never considered a no no. It was issue, reissue etc. Repress isn't a reissue so should not be an issue at all....no pun intended.

The scene never comes out of anything like this looking good. Whenever the scene is put on show it just comes across as naff with ageing people who think they can still dance looking frankly silly rather than the athletic dancer they should be dressed in clothes that make them look like some sort of naff act rather than a serious underground cool music scene. I know it hasn't been cool for a long time, its long since been hijacked by divs and wallies wanting their 15 minutes of fame turning the scene into the parody it is, the kind of people we went to nighters to get away from. I know people work hard on these things and I know the organisers can only work with what they are presented with but as usual it turned into one big div fest with the naffest choice of songs. One of the great music scenes of any generation made to look totally naff once more. And to top it off we are now tainted as being some sort of nazi group.

If Motown legally bought Ric Tic/Golden World/Wingate and the publishing Myto then surely it isn't hard to find the licensee. Enough Rix Tic etc been released on comps and 45 over the years to suggest they do have the rights. It's probably a case like it was years ago with all their unissued stuff, they couldn't be bothered with it. It has always been difficult to license anything Motown.