Blackpoolsoul

I thought would mention that the connection may just be the Clark Tutt, Tutt Media Group ( who was from Kinston North Carolina and passed away 2018), sadly that means we may never find out https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/188693479/julian-clark-tutt

Nice one PD 14324 ? would love to see a scan please

Steve if it wasn't for you starting the thread and Rob and I swapping Doggie photos (our chihuahuas) all this info would have not come to light.

https://www.discogs.com/The-Ellingtons-Destined-To-Be-A-Loser/release/4585330

Confirmed your comment all the label was pressed at Frankford Wayne 🤩

Could be as Philadelphia Records used them

Not sure as I thought Frankford Wayne were New York, Robb will know

Becky Bower who sang on the flip of the Carl And Gerald / Sonics (Featuring Becky) single (born March 28, 1949 - died December 10, 2018 in Beaumont, Texas). Her real name was Rebecca Ann Newman The Carl Stewart connection has to be correct (Huey Meaux). Carl was from Beaumont as well

Welcome Rob and thanks for joining Soul Source, it's a pleasure to talk and sort these issues from the man who knows 😀

https://soulfuldetroit.com/showthread.php?525-carrolls-quot-surrender-your-love-quot-ashford-simpson-penned-(uk-polydor-1966) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faith_Brown

This is, I believe, a Monarch Test Pressing ?, but never released ? Flip is Time's Running Low ?

Steve it's not quite the end (hope you don't mind) As the Millionaires (different groups) came up here and in a previous thread 12 years ago, I thought I would do some research I contacted Rob Russen and he has Kindly supplied this information and I believe he is joining Soul Source and hopefully will join in 😀

Did you not read the old thread I added ?

Just found out that the Williams is in fact Dean Williams who in 1977 joined Heaven & Earth (replacing Michael Brown as lead) He was recently performing as Herdine https://www.jango.com/music/HERDINE Another part of the puzzle done

It's age mate and you are older than me 😀

The only Tamla Motown single to exist as Red/White and Green/White demo with the same number. This 25 Mar 1966 release was still selling in 1968 and as a consequence, was still 'in the catalogue' - that is, your record dealer could order it from EMI. Accordingly it was 'repromoted' rather than reissued in late '68 using the then current Green/White demo label design.

Pretty sure this is proper Steve, the silver (same design) re-issue (legit) with light blue text and the then the plain one (bootleg) as you said I am sure Manship sold one for £400 (seems expensive though) £150- £200 on Popsike I had never seen a photo of them before until recently (how cool after all these years have passed by) There was a thread here as well about the Dark Blue Bobby Aceto, Sonny Aceto, Rob Russen, Nick Criaris and Rudy Wilson.

Found this which mentions a Julius https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Camelots_(doo_wop_group)

Exactly, which totally goes against what was posted on You tube when I posted the names Mike

Totally different, I agree which is why I asked 😄 https://www.uncamarvy.com/Paragons/paragons.html

Oh Dear changed the title to who were members 😁

Can you any one help with the line up The image was on you tube Perhaps someone can nail down the members, as it seems a bit sketchy Julius Armour, King, and Larry. Charles ?

PB appears on bootleg LP's out of Los Angeles so perhaps he/she moved😁

I am sure Manship knows