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the US used to be a good place to get records

do you know the full deal with this record? this isn't the ringleaders. the other side was a real unreleased ringleaders track, this side is some other artist's recording that the bootlegger in question put on the flip.

Thanks. The reason I was asking about the publishing is that when a song is sub-published sometimes it's retitled (e.g. given an alias) to make it distinct. It usually it something that happens across two countries though and it wasn't the case here because the publishing was the same.

a chicago collector recently got a WD of dont walk away / lonely in the crowd. he's on here and will probably post.

I'm glad you bumped the thread actually because it made me listen to the camaros version which I liked a lot. Thanks!

The label is Dar-Cha not Dar-Chi sorry, I couldn't resist after this: This is actually the first time I really listened to the camaros version, it's great, a total reworking of the song, it gives it a totally different feel. I don't really feel the need to rank this, it's so different from the other versions.

One was just pressed with a different title than another. I don't see what the big issue is. Actually you should compare the publisher listed on the records, if they are different I might have a better explanation for you.

I believe you. You should have found a doowop seller to sell it to you...

I think it does make a difference in the price (for example, if you license a record it will cost you more to make it and then sell it than a straight bootleg). Either way 40-60 pounds is too high for a reissue. I assume you were not talking about what I said right now and that you mean the "Original" as some sort of special object that cannot be replaced by any copy.

10 copies is a lot of copies to be on popsike. you won't find 10 copies of most low 3-figure records. obviously it's very rare now and hasn't come up for sale in a while, but I think it's more a combination of the sound and partial rarity that is driving up the price.

it is the same song though. not the same group. I've been told that the lead of ultra high frequency was Danny Johnson, later of the Chilites. The woman singing lead on South Shore Commission "we're on the right track" is Sheryl Henry, the same woman that sings lead on the Marlynns on Tower and one of the Daran sides (lots of people think it's male smokey imitator but it's not).

now I have to move it on my shelves from A to V. No big deal because the record label is blank, but this could have been a record collecting nightmare!

From ashland, KY... now I have no idea where DC would come from, it's probably wrong

this is the record label: https://www.45rpmrecords.com/KY/Fern.php the lil archie is not listed on that page but it's definitely the label

here is a label scan, it doesn't say DC, let me see if I can figure out where the publisher was:

I like the record. It is listed in the not-yet-released version of soul harmony singles, but it's listed as Washington DC and does note the parliaments connection (does it say DC on the label or something?). the parliaments on cabell were from Huntington, west virginia. The mello souls are from Wilmington, Deleware. Huntington is ~300 miles from DC. Wilmington DE is ~100 miles from DC. Huntington and Wilmington are ~500 miles apart. Obviously two groups could meet up anywhere, even across the world, but these distances don't make it look like an inherently very likely thing. Also, I'm still not sure where the DC comes from. Also, is anyone in contact with Archie? I know he had that ...interesting... webpage. If someone can ask him that would give more info.

ok sorry, thanks for the correction / clarification.

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That makes sense actually, record labels had "special products" divisions to do weird small, or private issues of music -- for example, if you were having a large business conference and wanted to make a custom LP to give away, you would license from the special products division of the label.

this is an interesting question. i hope some of the 70s players share their experiences

at least that wide

The book is so big that you can't just pull it out to read it, it is a coffee table book. I couldn't put it on my shelf so I laid it on top of some other books on my shelf that were unevenly sized and the book is all warped now because it was so heavy.

I agree that it sounds very beach and maybe it was just pressed on that label but the group was carolinas.

I partly agree, but also think that words tend to be used and catch on and spread if they're functional. "OG" is shorter than saying original, is easily said (vs. "orig"), and probably as short as you could get since saying "O" probably wouldn't work. If they're now using the word on antiques roadshow to evaluate a sword, I doubt that sword collecting was influenced by hiphop. Also you could pretend that OG is taken from OriGinal. By now the word is close to being stripped from its original roots. Other slang becomes mainstream pretty fast, I swear I've even seen someone on the news describe something as "sick" (and the popularity of poker, whether or not they invented the term, helped push it along a lot, because they say "sick hand" a lot... I don't know if Poker became big in the UK as it did in the US for about 5-10 years). OVO is an acronym that only makes sense within a specific scene at a specific time (and maybe on a specific message board). I could be wrong but I'm guessing it won't catch on and be used for other things. Except for the name of the new cirque du soleil show, but I don't think they got that from here.

.... forget it, ebay's all broken for me...