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There used to be some footage of the parfays on youtube, they were (not surprisingly) a White girl group.

that's wrong, baby washington was '63, pat thomas is '64. I saw that on the pat thomas record one of the writers produced it (versus juggy murray) but back in that time, songwriting was a full time profession, songwriters shopped songs around trying to get a producer to pick it up... although I don't know what specifically happened in the Baby Washington case. Even if the songwriter decided to later produce the song on an artist, it's not necessarily first. also, even if pat thomas was first, baby washington had the hit.

I think it was the producers' first record, so they initially pressed it themselves and didn't know how to distribute it. There was a 4th dude besides the mizell brothers and perrin, but i can't remember who it was right now (it's in the interview I think, I'm not sure). It's the source of the "four pigs" publishing on the record.

I think they do burn, it just has to be a very high temperature. When they do, they burn very hot and release toxic chemicals. It's like a tire fire. Someone on another message board posted that they looked inside the windows and saw entire palettes of like the same record (e.g. there was a palette of sealed isaac hayes tough guys soundtrack). There still has to be some good stuff given the quantity though.

thanks a lot. I watch trashy TV but I don't drink. I already help out the numero group on a lot of stuff. Thanks.

most mayfield songs that were done by other artists (excluding obvious covers) were done first by the artist before the impressions did it (even though the impressions versions were often superior). Curtis was a writer and record producer looking for hits on his artists.

the moments on hit (who evolved into the tempos on rileys) has nothing to do with the hog group. The hog group was from DC and the cuts were recorded at edgewood and produced by the mizell bros and freddie perren. The hog release was a local DC release. One of the producers had some detroit link and that weird press is just a last ditch attempt at distribution. Mark Greene joined the group after the Hog recording sessions. Ian, your company doesn't have the rights to the Hog recordings.

does excellerent make the records more excellent?

they were the group that sang not on the outside. they evolved into ray goodman and brown. the original moments then evolved into the leaders on volt. the story is convoluted. listen to my mark green interview.

i've been buying random (yellow) stax numbers recently, they're all like white garbage, with no pleasant surprises

if you just want an empty box, I'm sure river records in memphis has some, ask a memphis dude to get you one.

it's a nice sweet soul record. i got it for $130. he said in the soussan thread that he had only one and got some more or something like that.

ok thanks for the explanation, I appreciate it.

a couple of years ago i was watching TMZ (sleazy celebrity gossip show) and they had footage of Don Cornelius leaving a restaurant, he was wearing leather pants and didn't tip the valet at all when he got his car. sorry for the irrelevant post, your post just made me remember that.

i agree it's not a bargain, but what do you mean by "different completely"? The pray for me side is identical to the pray for me side on the copies of "baby I want you".

no, on this copy the other side is blank. this dude came on here to talk about this. he had at least several copies of it.

yes it's her song as the original / hit

It's always a gamble buying rare records. I'm pretty aggressive and always try to get in early because lots of times there's really only one or two copies and that's possibly your only chance ever to get a super rare record. Sometimes I get burned and lots of times it was the only copy. Recently I bought that moments on hog one sider thing from the dude who posted here, I think he said he had one copy and even listed it for $700 before lowering his price. now he's sold at least like 4 of them. now going for like half of what i paid (but at least it wasn't super expensive).

i might have a recording of this that someone sent me, which would mean i could also potentially follow the trail of people who passed on the recording to the original owner. i will check in the next few days and get back to you. I'm sure someone recently sent me on a CD some record of an unreleased four below zero (or maybe it was that "five below zero") track.

I think this list mixes up several right on labels. There was the canadian label active around '76 (which is the AC Soulful Symphony). There is the early 70s right on label that the total eclipes is on which I think was based in new york. And there is that early 70s right on based in Chicago that only released one record (the Variations).

whoa, that video was awesome. it's crazy how don cornelius calls him "a very dear friend of mine".

with this specific story, his actions don't seem like crazy cons or even fraud, just standard (shady) record dealer moves that happen today. People all the time sit on quantity of records and will sell you one at a price like it's the last copy. People all the time will buy a record from you and resell it for more. The second thing isn't even really shady, unless it's a good friend.

yeah, lots of records that have nothing to do with Chicago were pressed in Chicago and have that clearly chicago font / label

I don't want to attempt to list all the versions I can think of because there's like a bazillion versions, but just want to say that my absolute favorite version is the Dontells on Ambassador.

to JulianB: I would receive your package (I'm not a jerk, I try to be helpful) but I'm already doing this for like 5 people here so I don't want to add one more person onto my list.