Robbk

I'll try to remember to post some when I get back to my main 45s. Right now I'm in Muenchen, where I have mainly LPs.

Maybe his son was named "Drew"?

DoDe & DoDeRe, Prince(Prince Ella),GJM, Marton(I believe one of the 2 owners was named Martin), Stephanye (after Gene Redd Jr.'s daughter). Sylvia (Al Sears' wife, girlfriend or daughter?)Seroc (Al Sears),

Upon seeing a scan of it, I now remember having seeing that Marc label, but not till about 1970.

Sorry. I didn't know about a Marc label from Chicago. But, Center Stage didn't exist when Eddie Sull's Renee record was released. I lived in Chicago full-time until 1966, and only part-time from Fall 1966 through 1970, and DIDN'T know the Marc label existed. Therefore, I conclude, the Eddie Sull record was issued some time from 1969 or later. The Marc issue may be possible to date from pressing plant codes. Can someone post scans of it and tell us what is engraved, scratched and/or stamped in the runout?

B & G, Belinda, Burnie's (Burnie Peacock), Bea & Baby, Big Mack(Ed McCoy), Arvee(Richard Vaughn), Aardell/R-Dell(Bob Ross+), Gallo (Bob Gallo), Fabor(Fabor Robison), Leedon & Lee Gordon Records(Lee Gordon), Candix(Robert Dix and William Canaday Silva), Bea & Baby(Narvel "Cadillac Baby" Eatmon and his wife, Bea), Sims(Russell Sims), Ric & Ron Records (named after Joe Ruffino's 2 sons), J-V (reverse of VJ-Jimmy Bracken and Vivian Carter), Jerden (Jerry Dennon), Khoury's (George Khoury), MSK (Owners of Dearborn Records and a Juke Box distributorship: Martin and Snyder, along with Ed Kaplan (of Kool Kat, and other Detroit labels),

I'd guess Renee was first. Marc should have been later in time. It operated later than Renee, and the music publisher was Renee's in-house publisher, Leo Austell's Lamaja Music. Marc, located in L.A., must have leased the master. Both Eddie Sullivan and Leo Austell (and Renee Records) were in Chicago. The lease may have been to get the record distribution on The West Coast, where Renee had none, as far as I know (at least for Eddie Sullivan's release).

Good job!

Mutt & Jeff (Joe Jefferson +), MurCo, Heidi, JJ (Little Joe Cook +) Joda (Johnny Nash), Jameco(James Hendrix), HBR (Joe Hanna and Bill Barbera), Mas-Tok and Cha-Tok (Charles Stokes), Mack IV (Jimmy McEachin), Maurci, Mikim(Mickey Stevenson & Kim Weston), Tou-Sea(Alan Toussaint+), Trudel, Vando (Van McCoy+), Villa (Pancho Villa), Virtue (Frank Virtue), Redd, Red Coach and Redd Coach(Gene Redd Jr.), Roker(Wally Roker, Retta's and O'Retta, Yan G, Yancy (Yancy Millsap), ParLo, Leo, Maxx(Larry Maxwell), GreGar, Eskee, Gloria, Garrison, Calla(Nate McCalla), Co & Ce, DayCo, Bunky(Bill "Bunky" Sheppard (I'm pleased to have had as a next door neighbour of ours (when Airwave was sandwiched between him and Mickey Stevenson in The Hollyood and Vine Building))!

Zell's (Zell Sanders), SAMO(Sam Motley), Teri De, Wally, Glo-Whiz(Gloria Taylor/Whiz Whisenhunt), Juggy (Juggy Murray), Rojac, Ju-Par, Jomar, Jocida and Jomada (Johnny Nash+), Deesu, Sansu, Crewe (Bob Crewe), Burt (Ernest Burt), RayBer(Raynoma Liles Gordy and Berry Gordy), Renee (probably a daughter, wife or girlfriend of the owner (Leo Austell?), Paula? SBK (Sepe, Krasnow & Brooks), SVR, RanDee and MarKie (owner's 2 sons)

So, Popcorn named the label after only one daughter, named "Pameline"? Did he have 3, 2 or, just 1 daughter?

The first name must be Pam. I can't imagine what the other two are. It looks more like made up from only 2 names. I'll be curious what the answer is. Does anyone here know the names of his 3 daughters?

Laurie(Laurie Sussel), Jamie(Jamie Sussel) both daughters of Alan Sussel (co-owner of both labels. Ranwood (Randy Wood), Amy (Amy Shimkin) (Daughter of Bell owner, Arthur Shimkin)

Brent-Brenton Wood is just a coincidence. Brent was owned and founded by Bob Shad.

Burt (Ernest Burt), Philles (Phil Spector/Lester Sill), Phi-Dan (Phil Spector/Danny Davis), Lucky (Doc "Lucky" Oliver), Dynamite(James "Mr. Dynamite" Brown), Todd(owner Paul Cohen's son?), Wasn't "Carrie" James Hendrix's daughter?, Can-Jo (Candy Johnson), Despenza and Dispo (Barry Despenza), Dat Richfield Kat, JOB, Johnson, Frank, Mercer (Mercer Ellington), Ja-Dan (Jack Daniels), Daniels (Tony Daniels), Barry. Keen (Bob Keane),

If it was named after a Horace, 6 people with names starting with HORACE (or a horse's ass)!

Also, Big D and Diamond Jim for Diamond Jim Riley. Thelma Gordy Coleman was daughter of Thelma owners Hazel and Robert Coleman. There are literally THOUSANDS of label names based on the names of label owners and their family members. I can't name them all on this thread. I need to work to earn a living. Washpan(Gino Washington), Ernstrat(Ernie Stratton), JVB (Joe Von Battle), HPC(Hardye (for Harvey Fuqua), MRC(Mike Hanks and 2 others), Brownie (Gary Brown), Davis(Joe Davis), SAR(Sam Cooke/JW Alexander), JW (Joanne/Wingate), Ermine (Bill Ehrman), Ron's (Ron Murphy), Bunny/Big Bunny (Bunny Jones), Katron (Bob Catron), Rich (John Richbourg), GeneBro, Dotty's, Stepp (Mickey Stevenson), Phillips (Sam Phillips), Philips (Anton Philips), Thomas (Eddie Thomas) ..... on and on... ad infinitum...

Palmer was NOT named after Palmer James. I had thought so, but was corrected. I guess Palmer was the name of the main financier of Palmer records, but he wasn't the A&R man in daily operations of the label.

"I don't care if she waddles like a duck, or talks with a lisp, I just think I'd be better off if her Dollar Bills are crisp!" My OH my.... 'Cause first I look at the purse!" They don't write them like THAT anymore! Doggone Politically Correct lobbyists!

"She can be covered with a rash...." "Long as she's got some cash!" The Contours 1965 "Just Like Pagliacci did, I'll keep my sadness hid" Smokey Robinson "My smile is just a frown, turned upside down" - Carolyn Crawford

That's a 1969 Monk Higgins production for Wally Roker's group. But Tony Diamond was a Chicago guy. So, I assume it was recorded in Chicago, rather than L.A. Does anyone know if it was on a Wally Roker label first (Canyon, Soul Clock,etc.) and picked up by Capitol? Listening to it, he still sounds different from Jimmy Holland and Jimmy Hart.

I've never seen nor heard of a Tony Diamond release on Capitol. If anyone has it, please post scans of the two sides, and upload a snippet, if it's not too much trouble. Then, we could match that voice to Jimmy Holland's, as well.

The Chi-Lites sounds wrong. Are you confusing Tony Diamond with Tony Daniels? He was a prolific Chicago songwriter, who was mostly a single artist, but WAS a member of a couple of Chicago Soul groups (I forget which right now, but, if I remember correctly, they were known locally, but not known all that much nationally - certainly nowhere near as well known as The Chi-Lites. Tony Gideon was a member of The Daylighters.

Upon listening to all 3 videos posted above, I have come to the conclusion that all 3 are different singers, as they seem to each have a unique tone that is discernably different from the others.

No! I don't trust my 70-year old ears, or my memory of 5+ years ago over your ears, after currently listening to both. So, we need several of us listening to both, to form a consensus. One person's ears differentiating two very close voices are not enough. One person with good ears might choose wrong. but, I think we've proved that we have enough "good ears" on this forum, that a consensus of a lot of us is likely to be correct.