The Yank

I'm starting to wonder if maybe this shouldn't be split into 2 threads. I think the original intent was to list records that were influenced by Motown. It's turning into only counting records if Motown/ ex-Motown personnel were involved. Any then should we take into account subtle influences (Brill Building, Chicago/ West Coast) ??

Yes it did- but when it was first released on Ric Tic, I don't think they were making it because they knew a few years later Motown would buy out the label. Another one for the list- "Higher and Higher" Jackie WIlson.

I'll throw in "S.O.S" Edwin Starr "Selfish One" - Jackie Ross "Try A Little Harder- Fi- Dels "Heartaches Away My Boy" - Christine Cooper- best song Supremes never made! "Open The Door To Your Heart" - Darrel Banks

According to Brown and Koppel's book, those two are legal reissues.

Never saw the We The People on Verve or stock copies of the High Keys or Youngblood Smith. Not that this means anything.

I would agree that the rarest Verve 45 would either be the High Keys issue or the Youngblood Smith. Someone listed the Charades as one of the rarest- let's take that on off the list since it's on MGM.

That version was taped on February 28,1964 at "The Battle Of The Stars" at the Greystone Ballroom . It's available on "The Velvelettes- The Motown Anthology" double CD set from 2004.

Okay here's my definite answer. Pat Powdrill's version of "Breaking Point" is not the same version as Sharon Soul's since there is no such record. Think you've got Sharon Soul mixed up with label mate Deena Johnson.

I thought you had the Sharon Soul and Brad Lundy 45's and would know. I guess that my answer was a maybe .

Pat's "Breaking Point" was written by Connie St. John.

Here's a few more releases by Pat- Reprise #0286- "Luckiest Girl In Town" / "Breakin' Point" Reprise #20,204- "Happy Anniversary"/ "I've Forgot More Than You'll Know"

I don't think the Magnetics who recorded "Father Time"/ "Please Go Away" were the same group who turned into the Downbeats either. I thought Duke miight have confused the Majestics with the Magnetics when he said "they later changed their name to the Downbeats".

I think "that early Detroit group recorded but without release for Motown" he was referring to was not the Magnetics but the similar sounding Majestics who later changed their name to the Monitors.

Here's one you don't see too often ...

I saw that and wondered what he was thinking - that's not Etta.

Thanks for the link- really enjoyed the Jo Armstead interview.

Can't give you an exact year but 1968/1969 is more like it. The label closed in 1969 and was reactivated for 3 releases in 1972 (750-752).

I wish I did have a spare one. That's not even a 45 sleeve- the seller I got it from told me it was used as a package for women's nylons in the 60's !! Which makes sense- "Cover Girl Exciting Footwear"

This also came out on a 12" but I think it was promo only.

Technically... the sleeve has nothing to do with the 45, but I always thought they looked nice together.

I was just going to ask if you weren't mixing it up with Midsong #11082.

Just played the 45- just one singer on "The Hurt's Still Here", the flip "Mark My Word" does have a group on it though.

Does anybody know anything about the Girls?? There's only one singer on "The Hurt's Still Here" and I think on the flipside too. The voice seems very familiar- almost like Rhetta Hughes or Jo Armstead. So... who 's doing the vocal ?

Just did a quick search and found Jimmy did pass away in Las Vegas at the age of 64. The article says cause of death is still unknown.

The original version of "Night Owl" doesn't go that far back- Tony Allen's version on Specialty is from the mid 50's.