I've been out of the scene for about 3 years now, dj'd and organised a Northern night since '96....disillusioned with the backstabbing, the greed and of course, 'the politics'. I've been running a Motown 'handbag' night since and haven't had to put up with any of that. Only trouble is, I'm still missing the pull of the Northern Scene, the nostalgia and the wonderful sounds of my youth! Having spoken to a few people still on the scene, have found that a lot of the 'greedy' people have seen thier numbers of sheep-like followers dwindling. which of course is good. I've since been told that it's the 'weekender' that's the new 'crowd puller' .......but the shepherds are still the same. It pains me to say that I couldn't stand the large clubs that had the same old doormen, same old dj's, but all trying to impress playing music most of us had never heard. Is it not a fact that because most people hadn't heard it, was mainly because it was a crap record? I am in the process of fumbling my way back into trying to find a venue where ALL of the music is really good. Sorry, that will never happen.....possibly 75%. I went to a Northern night a few weeks ago and some parts were okay, but 'across the board' really doesn't cut it really, do you not think.....it's a kop out yeah? I went to another last Saturday. I heard a few rareish 'wigan' sounds and the smile stayed on my face, only for it to fade and then change into a headshake and then finally 'a goodbye' when I had to endure 2 whole, long and tedious hours of R n B! You should have gone to 'The Wheel' I was told. I was still at primary school when you were at 'The Wheel' I retorted !!! The problem is....just because I wasn't around when the Wheel was in full swing means that I missed out on a 'Golden Era'. Golden Era my arse! The people who are into that should stay with it and not force it onto others. The same applies to so called 'Modern' nights. Yes, some of the music is okay, but a lot is bordering on 'Disco' and recruits the sort of crowd who dance to disco too!

I want a good Wigan Casino/Torch oldies night, no huge venue, no so called 'big name dj's', no 'syndicate' doormen, no politics, and most of all NO GREED. Am I being too naive? Does anything like this exist in the Bolton/Bury/Rochdale area? Please help, otherwise I may be lost forever!!!!!!

I've been out of the scene for about 3 years now, dj'd and organised a Northern night since '96....disillusioned with the backstabbing, the greed and of course, 'the politics'. I've been running a Motown 'handbag' night since and haven't had to put up with any of that. Only trouble is, I'm still missing the pull of the Northern Scene, the nostalgia and the wonderful sounds of my youth! Having spoken to a few people still on the scene, have found that a lot of the 'greedy' people have seen thier numbers of sheep-like followers dwindling. which of course is good. I've since been told that it's the 'weekender' that's the new 'crowd puller' .......but the shepherds are still the same. It pains me to say that I couldn't stand the large clubs that had the same old doormen, same old dj's, but all trying to impress playing music most of us had never heard. Is it not a fact that because most people hadn't heard it, was mainly because it was a crap record? I am in the process of fumbling my way back into trying to find a venue where ALL of the music is really good. Sorry, that will never happen.....possibly 75%. I went to a Northern night a few weeks ago and some parts were okay, but 'across the board' really doesn't cut it really, do you not think.....it's a kop out yeah? I went to another last Saturday. I heard a few rareish 'wigan' sounds and the smile stayed on my face, only for it to fade and then change into a headshake and then finally 'a goodbye' when I had to endure 2 whole, long and tedious hours of R n B! You should have gone to 'The Wheel' I was told. I was still at primary school when you were at 'The Wheel' I retorted !!! The problem is....just because I wasn't around when the Wheel was in full swing means that I missed out on a 'Golden Era'. Golden Era my arse! The people who are into that should stay with it and not force it onto others. The same applies to so called 'Modern' nights. Yes, some of the music is okay, but a lot is bordering on 'Disco' and recruits the sort of crowd who dance to disco too!

I want a good Wigan Casino/Torch oldies night, no huge venue, no so called 'big name dj's', no 'syndicate' doormen, no politics, and most of all NO GREED. Am I being too naive? Does anything like this exist in the Bolton/Bury/Rochdale area? Please help, otherwise I may be lost forever!!!!!!

Hello mate,agree with a lot of what you have posted,not sure about the comment about the Wheel though.Have you been to St Bernadettes in Whitefield,small club,top music good crowd,no greed,and definately no chin strokers!!

Its been running for 17 years,run by Has and Dianna who are the nicest people you could hope to meet.

I want a good Wigan Casino/Torch oldies night, no huge venue, no so called 'big name dj's', no 'syndicate' doormen, no politics, and most of all NO GREED. Am I being too naive? Does anything like this exist in the Bolton/Bury/Rochdale area? Please help, otherwise I may be lost forever!!!!!!

You can't have looked far, there's tons of these nights every weekend, you should have as much trouble avoiding them as avoiding swine flu.

I want a good Wigan Casino/Torch oldies night, no huge venue, no so called 'big name dj's', no 'syndicate' doormen, no politics, and most of all NO GREED. Am I being too naive? Does anything like this exist in the Bolton/Bury/Rochdale area? Please help, otherwise I may be lost forever!!!!!!

You can't have looked far, there's tons of these nights every weekend, you should have as much trouble avoiding them as avoiding swine flu.

Sounds like politics to me,when i was a youth my nan used to say "i want never gets" ,go stamp your feet somewhere else or better still start your own night the way you want it,no one will come

I had been away for a while, growing up, studying, seeing the world. First place I tried when I came back home was Thorne, really not for me.

Tried the Three Horseshoes Soul Nite in Rotherham a month ago and loved it. Very old fashioned welcome, guys fairly new to the scene running it and music that made the hair on the back of my neck stand up. I had a such a great night, it will be a regualr for me.

Depends what you're into but, I just love sitting out my hates waiting to be blown away by a great tune that.................sometimes follows.

Sounds like politics to me,when i was a youth my nan used to say "i want never gets" ,go stamp your feet somewhere else or better still start your own night the way you want it,no one will come

You just read my mind Ken. politics indeed!.

Jayne.x

Hope you enjoy life in your bubble where nothing ever changes and you hear the same oldies over and over again

Every time you will be able to say "I remember when I heard this at ..." or "I remember doing this when this was played"

What a boring existence, stick with the handbaggers at least you will be able to impress them with your knowledge !!!!!

I've been out of the scene for about 3 years now, dj'd and organised a Northern night since '96....disillusioned with the backstabbing, the greed and of course, 'the politics'. I've been running a Motown 'handbag' night since and haven't had to put up with any of that. Only trouble is, I'm still missing the pull of the Northern Scene, the nostalgia and the wonderful sounds of my youth! Having spoken to a few people still on the scene, have found that a lot of the 'greedy' people have seen their numbers of sheep-like followers dwindling. which of course is good. I've since been told that it's the 'weekender' that's the new 'crowd puller' .......but the shepherds are still the same. It pains me to say that I couldn't stand the large clubs that had the same old doormen, same old djs, but all trying to impress playing music most of us had never heard. Is it not a fact that because most people hadn't heard it, was mainly because it was a crap record? I am in the process of fumbling my way back into trying to find a venue where ALL of the music is really good. Sorry, that will never happen.....possibly 75%. I went to a Northern night a few weeks ago and some parts were okay, but 'across the board' really doesn't cut it really, do you not think.....it's a cop out yeah? I went to another last Saturday. I heard a few rareish 'wigan' sounds and the smile stayed on my face, only for it to fade and then change into a head shake and then finally 'a goodbye' when I had to endure 2 whole, long and tedious hours of R n B! You should have gone to 'The Wheel' I was told. I was still at primary school when you were at 'The Wheel' I retorted !!! The problem is....just because I wasn't around when the Wheel was in full swing means that I missed out on a 'Golden Era'. Golden Era my arse! The people who are into that should stay with it and not force it onto others. The same applies to so called 'Modern' nights. Yes, some of the music is okay, but a lot is bordering on 'Disco' and recruits the sort of crowd who dance to disco too!

I want a good Wigan Casino/Torch oldies night, no huge venue, no so called 'big name djs', no 'syndicate' doormen, no politics, and most of all NO GREED. Am I being too naive? Does anything like this exist in the Bolton/Bury/Rochdale area? Please help, otherwise I may be lost forever!!!!!!

Hi mate you have some baggage that you should let go off as its holding you back? as a qualified Counsellor maybe I can help? however I am 57 and I remember the good good old days believe me, and they are still here a now, get out and mingle and don't moan I used to-go to the Mecca to me it was Tony Jebb however to many it was Ian & Mr CC and I could not wait to leave? be positive go out to have a good time? in 12 tears I will be 70 do I give a F**k no DAVE KIL

Is it not a fact that because most people hadn't heard it, was mainly because it was a crap record?

No, not a fact at all.

Are you therefore saying that MOST the records you now regard as quality classics, originally played as newies/unknowns at Northern Soul events from those glorious days of old, were known to you prior to been played at such NS events?

This comment never ceases to amaze me.....surely the whole scene was founded on obscure/unknown records?

but all trying to impress playing music most of us had never heard.

Isn't that the whole point of this scene? I go out to hear music i've never heard and i'm disappointed if i don't hear at least one i've never heard before. You should stick to your Motown night mate at least there you won't hear anything you haven't heard before eh?

got to say the man has a few valid points if you were around the clubs in the early 80s it could be confusing and still is as jazz funk, disco, soul, etc, are the same thing ie dance music and northern soul is only what northern soul djs decide to play and we decide to dance to. in fact im confused now think ill stop here but 4x4 still does it for me ill get me coat

I want a good Wigan Casino/Torch oldies night, no huge venue, no so called 'big name dj's', no 'syndicate' doormen, no politics, and most of all NO GREED.

You should get yourself along to the Coop in Nuneaton, packed every single time, wall to wall oldies, lots of Wigan classics, run by Mark Freeman who is Wigan Casino to the bone. It's probably the best oldies soul night in the country and it's on next Saturday. I'll be there, so say hello if you come along.

If you're not prepared to travel though, there really is no hope for you.

Edited July 25, 200915 yr by Matt Male

Hope you enjoy life in your bubble where nothing ever changes and you hear the same oldies over and over again

Every time you will be able to say "I remember when I heard this at ..." or "I remember doing this when this was played"

What a boring existence, stick with the handbaggers at least you will be able to impress them with your knowledge !!!!!

jolly well said

I've been out of the scene for about 3 years now, dj'd and organised a Northern night since '96....disillusioned with the backstabbing, the greed and of course, 'the politics'. I've been running a Motown 'handbag' night since and haven't had to put up with any of that.

motownTOMMY,

Care to confirm to us the northern night you ran since 96?,

Jayne.

where is the line in the sand id say 72 nearly anything before is awsome and after 2 thirds is shite im off

funny really theres that much out there at the momment that people have lost the point ie just good soul music -its punters that tag records and conviently put them into genres etc!! I done the wilton last week in the duration of my 1 hour spot i was asked for "old northern soul"newies,oldies-fast ones and seventies with a bit r/b lol,and this is a upfront do that is well respected lol.

The point is that tastes do vary and the punter loves to tag,well all quilty of creating all this bollocks!!! A GOOD RECORD IS A GOOD RECORD -but the wide spectrum of individuals tastes means that someone may love say the trannels -whilst others may think its over played,its sixties,etc etc,the bollocks just intensifies.

The various dos offer the lot -pay your money and take your choice-simple as that really!!!

BAZ A

Edited July 25, 200915 yr by baz atkinson

funny really theres that much out there at the momment that people have lost the point ie just good soul music -its punters that tag records and conviently put them into genres etc!! I done the wilton last week in the duration of my 1 hour spot i was asked for "old northern soul"newies,oldies-fast ones and seventies with a bit r/b lol,and this is a upfront do that is well respected lol.

The point is that tastes do vary and the punter loves to tag,well all quilty of creating all this bollocks!!! A GOOD RECORD IS A GOOD RECORD -but the wide spectrum of individuals tastes means that someone may love say the trannels -whilst others may think its over played,its sixties,etc etc,the bollocks just intensifies.

The various dos offer the lot -pay your moey and take your choice-simple as that really!!!

BAZ A

amen

funny really theres that much out there at the momment that people have lost the point ie just good soul music -its punters that tag records and conviently put them into genres etc!! I done the wilton last week in the duration of my 1 hour spot i was asked for "old northern soul"newies,oldies-fast ones and seventies with a bit r/b lol,and this is a upfront do that is well respected lol.

The point is that tastes do vary and the punter loves to tag,well all quilty of creating all this bollocks!!! A GOOD RECORD IS A GOOD RECORD -but the wide spectrum of individuals tastes means that someone may love say the trannels -whilst others may think its over played,its sixties,etc etc,the bollocks just intensifies.

The various dos offer the lot -pay your moey and take your choice-simple as that really!!!

BAZ A

absolutely!

Jayne.x

Hope you enjoy life in your bubble where nothing ever changes and you hear the same oldies over and over again

Every time you will be able to say "I remember when I heard this at ..." or "I remember doing this when this was played"

What a boring existence, stick with the handbaggers at least you will be able to impress them with your knowledge !!!!!

I wholeheartedly agree on that one Ste my lovely. Only you missed something....

.............

IS THIS A WIND UP?

Edited July 28, 200915 yr by posstot

I wholeheartedly agree on that one Ste my lovely. Only you missed something....

............

IS THIS A WIND UP?

I wouldn't give it too much thought, This is all one guy having a dig at certain individuals.

Just bollitics from our area.

Jayne.

I've been out of the scene for about 3 years now, dj'd and organised a Northern night since '96....disillusioned with the backstabbing, the greed and of course, 'the politics'. I've been running a Motown 'handbag' night since and haven't had to put up with any of that. Only trouble is, I'm still missing the pull of the Northern Scene, the nostalgia and the wonderful sounds of my youth! Having spoken to a few people still on the scene, have found that a lot of the 'greedy' people have seen thier numbers of sheep-like followers dwindling. which of course is good. I've since been told that it's the 'weekender' that's the new 'crowd puller' .......but the shepherds are still the same. It pains me to say that I couldn't stand the large clubs that had the same old doormen, same old dj's, but all trying to impress playing music most of us had never heard. Is it not a fact that because most people hadn't heard it, was mainly because it was a crap record? I am in the process of fumbling my way back into trying to find a venue where ALL of the music is really good. Sorry, that will never happen.....possibly 75%. I went to a Northern night a few weeks ago and some parts were okay, but 'across the board' really doesn't cut it really, do you not think.....it's a kop out yeah? I went to another last Saturday. I heard a few rareish 'wigan' sounds and the smile stayed on my face, only for it to fade and then change into a headshake and then finally 'a goodbye' when I had to endure 2 whole, long and tedious hours of R n B! You should have gone to 'The Wheel' I was told. I was still at primary school when you were at 'The Wheel' I retorted !!! The problem is....just because I wasn't around when the Wheel was in full swing means that I missed out on a 'Golden Era'. Golden Era my arse! The people who are into that should stay with it and not force it onto others. The same applies to so called 'Modern' nights. Yes, some of the music is okay, but a lot is bordering on 'Disco' and recruits the sort of crowd who dance to disco too!

I want a good Wigan Casino/Torch oldies night, no huge venue, no so called 'big name dj's', no 'syndicate' doormen, no politics, and most of all NO GREED. Am I being too naive? Does anything like this exist in the Bolton/Bury/Rochdale area? Please help, otherwise I may be lost forever!!!!!!

Agreed Matt, I like to hear stuff I've never heard of too mished mashed with some old faves.

Isn't that the whole point of this scene? I go out to hear music i've never heard and i'm disappointed if i don't hear at least one i've never heard before. You should stick to your Motown night mate at least there you won't hear anything you haven't heard before eh?

Hi mate you have some baggage that you should let go off as its holding you back? as a qualified Counsellor maybe I can help? however I am 57 and I remember the good good old days believe me, and they are still here a now, get out and mingle and don't moan I used to-go to the Mecca to me it was Tony Jebb however to many it was Ian & Mr CC and I could not wait to leave? be positive go out to have a good time? in 12 tears I will be 70 do I give a F**k no DAVE KIL

Totally agree Dave, the fact that the scene is still going now, is even more magical to me than the past. Proves the quality of the music and the tastes of the crowd. And there is enough out there for everybody's tastes now, although maybe even too many nights sometimes. Don't get the baggage carriers and their moans, give him a few private counselling sessions!

Imagine how boring life would be if the scene had just died off and remained as a distant youthful memory?

Edited July 29, 200915 yr by chorleysoul

Agreed Matt, I like to hear stuff I've never heard of too mished mashed with some old faves.

Another post this time having a dig at both Rn'B and "Modern" !!!

Don't know what you mean by modern, it means different things to different people and thus covers a wide spectrum.

Interesting to hear you comment on modern nights though, if you don't like it, why on earth would you go ?

Rn'b doesn't cut it for me, so I wouldn't go to a venue that played predominantly that, and I wouldn't moan about it on a forum. You makes your choice, simple as that..

More than a few "Northern oldies" nights in the South Yorkshire Area, KGB, City Limits, Davy's for example, (apologies to anyone I've forgotten, just stuck to Sheffield) all playing exactly what they say on the tin.

You've not even mentioned crossover.

Agreed Matt, I like to hear stuff I've never heard of too mished mashed with some old faves.

There's something we agree on totally! lol

i love it when people start bitching and moaning with their first post....hilarious

how to win friends and influence people...

i love it when people start bitching and moaning with their first post....hilarious

how to win friends and influence people...

I can understand why MotownDummy moans...all those big headed promoters.... "I lost more than you did"

Edited July 29, 200915 yr by Rbman

I can understand why MotownDummy moans...all those big headed promoters.... "I lost more than you did"

hello martin you tart, hows it hanging, long time no see

I wouldn't give it too much thought, This is all one guy having a dig at certain individuals.

Just bollitics from our area.

Jayne.

OOh, Hi there Jayne..long time no say hello!! You alright hun?

What's with the last 3/4 posts?.Being nice to each other?.- C'mon guys back to the bitching........... .I hate everything i do.......

Hope you enjoy life in your bubble where nothing ever changes and you hear the same oldies over and over again

Every time you will be able to say "I remember when I heard this at ..." or "I remember doing this when this was played"

What a boring existence, stick with the handbaggers at least you will be able to impress them with your knowledge !!!!!

Good reply Steve , I was dj'ing just recently when a guy came up to me and asked me to play stompers. I was spinning WITH THESE EYES - FABULOUS PEPS SOME FCUKIN FOLK

Good reply Steve , I was dj'ing just recently when a guy came up to me and asked me to play stompers. I was spinning WITH THESE EYES - FABULOUS PEPS SOME FCUKIN FOLK

You Selfish B*stard.

Did you not stop to consider that he may not have heard it before?????

Some Fcukin' Folk, indeed!!!!

Tony

I've been out of the scene for about 3 years now, dj'd and organised a Northern night since '96....disillusioned with the backstabbing, the greed and of course, 'the politics'. I've been running a Motown 'handbag' night since and haven't had to put up with any of that. Only trouble is, I'm still missing the pull of the Northern Scene, the nostalgia and the wonderful sounds of my youth! Having spoken to a few people still on the scene, have found that a lot of the 'greedy' people have seen thier numbers of sheep-like followers dwindling. which of course is good. I've since been told that it's the 'weekender' that's the new 'crowd puller' .......but the shepherds are still the same. It pains me to say that I couldn't stand the large clubs that had the same old doormen, same old dj's, but all trying to impress playing music most of us had never heard. Is it not a fact that because most people hadn't heard it, was mainly because it was a crap record? I am in the process of fumbling my way back into trying to find a venue where ALL of the music is really good. Sorry, that will never happen.....possibly 75%. I went to a Northern night a few weeks ago and some parts were okay, but 'across the board' really doesn't cut it really, do you not think.....it's a kop out yeah? I went to another last Saturday. I heard a few rareish 'wigan' sounds and the smile stayed on my face, only for it to fade and then change into a headshake and then finally 'a goodbye' when I had to endure 2 whole, long and tedious hours of R n B! You should have gone to 'The Wheel' I was told. I was still at primary school when you were at 'The Wheel' I retorted !!! The problem is....just because I wasn't around when the Wheel was in full swing means that I missed out on a 'Golden Era'. Golden Era my arse! The people who are into that should stay with it and not force it onto others. The same applies to so called 'Modern' nights. Yes, some of the music is okay, but a lot is bordering on 'Disco' and recruits the sort of crowd who dance to disco too!

I want a good Wigan Casino/Torch oldies night, no huge venue, no so called 'big name dj's', no 'syndicate' doormen, no politics, and most of all NO GREED. Am I being too naive? Does anything like this exist in the Bolton/Bury/Rochdale area? Please help, otherwise I may be lost forever!!!!!!

Knob

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