Hi all are these copies bootleggs? many thanks for any help

Hi all are these copies bootleggs? many thanks for any help

These ?

Reissue

Black text on blue background is the second issue (and it mis-credits the title as "You're Number One").

Original white demo has got black text on white background.

Original issue has got dark-blue text on light-blue background.

Edited November 2, 200915 yr by Sebastian

These ?

Reissue

Cheers ken, is this a legit re-issue then?

Black text on blue background is the second issue (and it mis-credits the title as "You're Number One").

Original white demo has got black text on white background.

Original issue has got dark-blue text on light-blue background.

Here's the White DEMO, made all the harder to acquire as the "B Side" is a Garage Collectible.

Here's the White DEMO, made all the harder to acquire as the "B Side" is a Garage Collectible.

Many thanks guys, great info as per usual-HARRY

Hi Harry

I believe that many of the Arctics were kept on catalogue over a number of years.

Possibly, Pressed to supply demand from Original Plates or Source.

The difficulty sometimes is the correct timeline / order of issue. These two from the 60's.

This one has the same Layout as the White DEMO that I have recently seen, title over two lines.

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The STYRENE Copies were from the 70's as I recall & I have always considered them to be 70's Re-Issues from Original Source.

Hi Harry

I believe that many of the Arctics were kept on catalogue over a number of years.

Possibly, Pressed to supply demand from Original Plates or Source.

The difficulty sometimes is the correct timeline / order of issue. These two from the 60's.

This one has the same Layout as the White DEMO that I have recently seen, title over two lines.

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The STYRENE Copies were from the 70's as I recall & I have always considered them to be 70's Re-Issues from Original Source.

Thanks very much roger

Black text on blue background is the second issue (and it mis-credits the title as "You're Number One").

Original white demo has got black text on white background.

Original issue has got dark-blue text on light-blue background.

Although when you think about it "Your Number 1" as per the original, is wrong, and the 70's repress saying "You're Number 1" is a correction.

Cheers

Mick

While we're on the Arctic subject can someone put up scan/info on "help wanted" please.(apologies Harry)

While we're on the Arctic subject can someone put up scan/info on "help wanted" please.(apologies Harry)

Unfortunately I haven't a copy of "HELP WANTED" in my collection Yet.

Arctic is one of the labels we're compiling at Hitsville.

The DEMO Is Single Sided like these two.

Edited November 3, 200915 yr by 45cellar

While we're on the Arctic subject can someone put up scan/info on "help wanted" please.(apologies Harry)

here ya go

How legal were the reissues? I know most have Virtue scratched in but I sort of recall it might have been a liitle bit of a grey area...

How legal were the reissues? I know most have Virtue scratched in but I sort of recall it might have been a liitle bit of a grey area...

Totally legal,done by Bonnie Brenner at jamie/guyden,also reissued anneDeandrea and pookie hudson,billy floyd ,kenny gamble and 3 or four of the volcano's tracks,seem to recall weldon mcdougall & val shiveley having something to do with the reissues

Totally legal,done by Bonnie Brenner at jamie/guyden,also reissued anneDeandrea and pookie hudson,billy floyd ,kenny gamble and 3 or four of the volcano's tracks,seem to recall weldon mcdougall & val shiveley having something to do with the reissues

Light blue label/dark blue lettering of "Help Wanted/lady's man",,?

A lot of these re-issues are legal, but are really a specialist product for the UK market (Northern Soul).

They where not re-issued for the USA record buying public.

For that reason there is no demos of the re-issues, because they did not need to promote them!

When they where done in the 70's we just called them pressings along with the bootlegs!

A lot of these re-issues are legal, but are really a specialist product for the UK market (Northern Soul).

They where not re-issued for the USA record buying public.

For that reason there is no demos of the re-issues, because they did not need to promote them!

When they where done in the 70's we just called them pressings along with the bootlegs!

SO NOT A BOOTLEG, BUT BASICALLY SHOULD BE CLASSED AS SUCH.

BRI PINCH.

SO NOT A BOOTLEG, BUT BASICALLY SHOULD BE CLASSED AS SUCH.

BRI PINCH.

To quote the MARVELLOWS-I`M SO CONFUSED if theses were pressed up by the jamie guyden corp, does that not make them a legit re-press? this is where i don`t understand this bootlegg thing, if records were pressed legally then there not a bootlegg are they? i allways thought bootleggs were illegal and had nothing to do with the original company, is that right?,-HARRY

To quote the MARVELLOWS-I`M SO CONFUSED if theses were pressed up by the jamie guyden corp, does that not make them a legit re-press? this is where i don`t understand this bootlegg thing, if records were pressed legally then there not a bootlegg are they? i allways thought bootleggs were illegal and had nothing to do with the original company, is that right?,-HARRY

Could have been worse Harry.You could have asked about Mirwood.

To quote the MARVELLOWS-I`M SO CONFUSED if theses were pressed up by the jamie guyden corp, does that not make them a legit re-press? this is where i don`t understand this bootlegg thing, if records were pressed legally then there not a bootlegg are they? i allways thought bootleggs were illegal and had nothing to do with the original company, is that right?,-HARRY

I'm with you Harry. They are 2nd issues not bootlegs. If you are a collector that concerns yourself with such things then there not original issues but they are legal and legitimate.

I'm with you Harry. They are 2nd issues not bootlegs. If you are a collector that concerns yourself with such things then there not original issues but they are legal and legitimate.

Thanks ged and all for the info, will close the thread, b4 we go down the old road again