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This weeks been exceptional, this time last Sunday I was browsing Ebay as normal, I always start with typing in Musette on the off chance I might find some 45's on the label, anyhow after 6 or 7 years of typing that in and sending in Listings of Known tracks that came out, 2 new 45's I had never seen before were listed by a seller, I bid and won both tonight, so before some guy who's been collecting 20 years more that I have emais in and says yeah I got them and a load more not on your List, here's what reckon is a s much as anybody knows:

MR-100– Unknown

MR-101– Unknown

MR-102 – Sonny Craver - I'mNo Fool / Come Back 


MR-103 – Unknown

MR-104 – Unknown

MR-105 – Unknown

MR-106– Unknown

MR-107– Unknown

MR-108– Unknown

MR-109 / MR-110 - Bobby Bryant Sextet -Fifty-Eighth Street / A Change is Gonna Come

MR-112 – June Jackson - You're Welcome /Bottoms Up 


76- 9151 – Mickie Champion -What Good Am I(Without You) / The Hurt Still Lingers On 


65-10 – Lenni Groves - Sweet Sixteen (With ABroken Heart) / Fool For A Day 


65-11 – Lennie Groves - Bye Bye Baby / AMillion Tears Ago 


65-12 – Lenni Groves - Sweet Sixteen (With ABroken Heart) / Good Show 


65-13 – Garnett Sykes -Longer Than Forever /Go Go Girl 


65-14 – Ervin Rucker -She's Alright / KidsTogether 


65-15 – Unknown but that Musette Acetate exists and states - You know How Love Is / Show Business

(MR xx 615) * not credited but June Jackson sang that, I'd eat my hat if he did not!)

65-16 – Arlene Williams - Duck 'All Over Town'/ Duck 'All Over Town' (Part 2)


65-17 – The Other Four - Searching For My Love/ Why Musette Acetate – (June Jackson-not confirmedbut deffo him) - You know How Love Is / Show Business (MR xx 615)

So The two New tracks to me are

65-12 – Lenni Groves - Sweet Sixteen (With A Broken Heart) / Good Show and MR-109 / MR-110 - Bobby Bryant Sextet -Fifty-Eighth Street / A Change is Gonna Come.

They are not mint but who cares, they exist and I'l be tracking down Mint copies from here on in... The Bobby Bryant release states produced by R.O Bryant, and these two tracks gained a release on the Chess label nationally.

For me the addition of MR-109 /MR-110 really point to there very likely being releases for the missing MR series numbers, 101, 103, 104,105,106,107,108, who knows but these are really obscure…. Miki Champion is a very strange release with a release number 76-9151 that does not fit in any order, 3 are on the blue label, the rest on Orange But I did read somewhere that a green label release came out??? So if you have anything else to add, now is your time!! Mal.C.

Edited July 25, 201014 yr by Mal.C.

Context Dear Watson!!! So if I got this right, the original release of 'I wanna thank you' on Stanton which made one side of a later Terri De release, then what might be the orig of I wanna thank you by Goody Colbert on Revue... then the alt version of 'Come back to me' which also makes one side of the Musette singll by the Phantom, basically Sonny craver on Karisma, this is a different and better take in my opinion to the Musette side.. then the very very very rare June Jackson...

Edited February 24, 201114 yr by Mal.C.

m.champion,

youve probably seen this but i will post it anyway,

https://www.soulfulkindamusic.net/musettearticle.htm

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youve probably seen this but i will post it anyway,

https://www.soulfulki...ettearticle.htm

I've never read this guys book, but would love to find out where he got his info, I did speak to Greg Tormo some years back at Cleethorpes and he said that he has spoken to H.June Jackson, but he did not tell me much more that that...

anybody know what the initial H stands for? Perhaps he was Horace, or Hugo.. or Humphrey... Laughs

Malcolm

Edited July 28, 201014 yr by Mal.C.

I've never read this guys book, but would love to find out where he got his info, I did speak to Greg Tormo some years back at Cleethorpes and he said that he has spoken to H.June Jackson, but he did not tell me much more that that...

anybody know what the initial H stands for? Perhaps he was Horace, or Hugo.. or Humphrey... Laughs

some of his info was well off the mark though, as he reckoned June jackson was JJ Jackson, no way near I'm afraid...

Malcolm

JJ Jackson (Calla/Loma etc) is Jerome Louis Jackson.

I'm sure someone mentioned years ago who June Jackson was but can't remember.

Seen the name June Jackson on quite a few discs, credited as writer, arranger, producer etc.

The Bootleggers on Discovery just one, he's the featured artist on the flip. Also his great outing on Imperial, Its What's Underneath That Counts.

He has the Cross tone release of course and a couple of releases on Bell. Tenderly with feeling and I'm not sleeping, did you notice that the Imperial side is the same, there is no trace of him on the flip to What's Underneath...what so ever..

M

He has the Cross tone release of course and a couple of releases on Bell. Tenderly with feeling and I'm not sleeping, did you notice that the Imperial side is the same, there is no trace of him on the flip to What's Underneath...what so ever..

M

I've no longer got the What's Underneath 45 any more and can't remember the flip.

SOLD MY MIKI CHAMPION NOT REALISING TILL MANY YEARS LATER WHAT AN AWESOME FLIP-CAN SOMONE POST UP THE FLIP -THE HURT STILL LINGERS-BLOODY MARVELLOUS-MUST GET ROUND TO GETTING IT BACK!!

BAZ A

SOLD MY MIKI CHAMPION NOT REALISING TILL MANY YEARS LATER WHAT AN AWESOME FLIP-CAN SOMONE POST UP THE FLIP -THE HURT STILL LINGERS-BLOODY MARVELLOUS-MUST GET ROUND TO GETTING IT BACK!!

BAZ A

sold mine back in mid 90's, unfortunately I can't get one back for what I bought it for or sold it for

Both sides of the Imperial release, and the Cross tone one, that always gets allot of attention on White Demo. That said I saw that Rob Pheasant has this on a yellow issue, plain yellow with no Promo writing so I'm assuming issue... ??

M

May have pretty much Done Musette, unless we can add the Un issued Musette / Jackson scan and the other Lenni Groves 45, which Now I cant find...I've never bought the Miki Champion, wont pay the money for it...

maybe Terri de and Cross Tone should follow here with the Craver / Jackson connection...? making a west Coast Indy fest?

Edited July 25, 201014 yr by Mal.C.

Great reading Mal and congrats on the find. I think that June Jackson Show Business is a test pressing rather than an acetate isn't it; which is of course a very different thing for discographers.

He has the Cross tone release of course and a couple of releases on Bell. Tenderly with feeling and I'm not sleeping, did you notice that the Imperial side is the same, there is no trace of him on the flip to What's Underneath...what so ever..

M

hi mal, always wondered about the flip to this too....

on the bay at the moment....enclosed the following desciption.... maybe shed a bit more light on it...

JUNE JACKSON - IT'S WHATS UNDERNEATH THAT COUNTS / FIFTY PERCENT WON'T DO, U.S. DEMO ON IMPERIAL RECORDS, CONDITION IS EX, S.W.O.L. ON B SIDE, SOMEONE HAS CROSSED OUT JUNE JACKSON AND WRITTEN ANITA MAY ABOVE IT, THIS IS ONLY FEINT, IN BIRO NOT FELT TIP.

I have sound files and scans of the test pressing, just waiting for permission to put up edited versions or maybe even the whole thing.

This thread ends Sunday, confined to the archives, but before that happens it good to finish on a high, so having spoken to Angelo who did the Musette review on Dave Rimmer's site all this week, I can offer these tantalizing tit bits:

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MR-112 – June Jackson - You're Welcome /Bottoms Up 


Someone a few months ago was selling the Imperial Records single on "You're Welcome," and it was a promotional single (black on the left hand side with color logo and light brown for the rest of the label), it was definitely Imperial/Liberty and the artist, production credits remained the same, with the exception of the Imperial single catalogue number. Needless to say, this blew me away when I saw it, as I wondered if there were any other singles Imperial and/or Liberty might have picked up for national release.

Green Musette Label Lenni/Lennie Groves singles

The green label; this was the original label version of the Lenni/Lennie Groves singles, light green with black print; in fact, this was the only time I have seen a green Musette release. A collector in my hometown of San Diego just found the "Sweet Sixteen" on the green label.

All The Musette Best,

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What can you say? June Jackson - your welcome got a promo on Liberty / imperial, thats up there with the Ivories on Wand, and Green label Mustte releases, I must be a tad sad, but thats some of the most exciting collecting stuff I've heard in years...

Mal.C.

Edited July 29, 201014 yr by Mal.C.

This thread ends Sunday, confined to the archives, but before that happens it good to finish on a high, so having spoken to Angelo who did the Musette review on Dave Rimmer's site all this week, I can offer these tantalizing tit bits:

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Mal.C.

It will still be there in The Sharp End to add too etc at any time.

Here's edited scans of the Musette test press, You Know How Love Is and Showbusiness. In my opinion got to be June Edwards, you can judge for yourself when refosoul is open again and I can upload the sound files.

Many thanks to Chris Morgan for his kind permission to use these.

This might sound a bit off the wall but reference to Mickie Champion release number

My info on The Mussette label has it formed in 1965, hence the 65 prefix on numbering. Based on the fact the missing number in this sequence is 15 and that the Americans (small indie label owners etc) tend to use release dates , I suspect the Mickie Champion release was programmed for 65-15 but for some reason did not happen???

Then in 1976 it got its release with the 15 in the middle of its release date or 1st of September or 9th January. it sounds like Im stretching it a bit but based on years of collecting etc etc then it would account for odd release number and the missing 65-15 as this track is defo NOT a 70's tune.

My pennys worth if its worth that much

The June Jackson - Youre Welcome.............................one of the Best records I ever bought.

Dave Halsall

aka TMIB

This might sound a bit off the wall but reference to Mickie Champion release number

My info on The Mussette label has it formed in 1965, hence the 65 prefix on numbering. Based on the fact the missing number in this sequence is 15 and that the Americans (small indie label owners etc) tend to use release dates , I suspect the Mickie Champion release was programmed for 65-15 but for some reason did not happen???

Then in 1976 it got its release with the 15 in the middle of its release date or 1st of September or 9th January. it sounds like Im stretching it a bit but based on years of collecting etc etc then it would account for odd release number and the missing 65-15 as this track is defo NOT a 70's tune.

My pennys worth if its worth that much

The June Jackson - Youre Welcome.............................one of the Best records I ever bought.

Dave Halsall

aka TMIB

You could be right about the 65 representing 1965 - as you say, other labels do use this kind of prefix - HSI Prix springs to mind.

It could be that it was originally scheduled for 65-15, before that number was reallocated to June Jackson.

I'm sure that the 76 does mean something but not 1976.

The bootlegs predate that year, so the orig release would have been before that (might have been a mistake and they meant 66-9151 ??)

Cheers

Mick

the yellow, or Green as its been described Musette 45  from Lenni-Groves entitled 'Sweet-Sixteen', exactly the same as the orange release.

I think its been called green cause some chap might have had it for sale on Ebay, and not corrected  the hue of the scan he had up, deffo yellow..

Mal

Edited February 24, 20169 yr by Mal C