HI ALL HERE IS A QUOTE FROM JOHN ON THIS GREAT RECORD :-

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Same group who recorded that superb harmony Doo-Wopper “SONIA” for Blue Beat. Comes this 1968 UK 45 that completely captures the Northern Soul sound, with Jamacian Siggy Jackson UK production and Bill Shepherd’s slick arrangement, is the perfect vehicle for this NS dancer that few would believe was not USA born. Check the sound file you’ll certainly be impressed, with the glaring potential for Club-play and the flipside is strong too. Before you today is the Dog-Rare DEMO! Tiny “unknown” autographed on label - vinyl has some light surface marks but as you can hear it plays fabulously. A sleeper that will awake…

NICE ONE JOHN, and confirms what I found out about the group when I got it from Jim Silles 20 years ago. and a DEMO CLASSIC STUFF

NICE ONE. RANKING JOHNNY BOY

,DAVE K

Does anyone know who the Marvels are? Was also released in Belgium on Frankie and Germany on Ariola, with Picture Sleeves. Do the sleeves give any info?

Green and White UK Demo

Was it released in france too...

Does anyone know who the Marvels are? Was also released in Belgium on Frankie and Germany on Ariola, with Picture Sleeves. Do the sleeves give any info?

Green and White UK Demo

Was it released in france too...

Hi All I will ask Jim Siles the full story but the gist is that the group who recorded "KEEP ON SEARCHING" are the same band who recorded Jamaican music and much of there music turns up on many fine labels in the UK, as session players, just as the top white session players did, also many a fine singer made their bread & butter as session singers, a god example would be BLUE MINK and JOHN MARVELLS BLUES BRAKERS, ALSO BLUESOLAGY COME TO MIND, between that lot and you Hawk talent, but others like JOE MEEK, ANDREW OLDEM and so on had there say but in our story the main man was the HAWK Who used his name to form another fictitious band the MO-HAWKS, both groups had the same members and as suh turned out some of the finest sessions from the mid 60's on wards, so in a nutshell they are all session players and singers led by MO HAWK, I hope that has got you thinking? but as far as I hae been informed, this is reliable info, but there are many experts out there who might question this as being wrong,most of the HAWKS Work come out in Europe, here we have 2 reords by the MARELS that are well worth getting, the GAS 45 has a vocal on the other side, but this was the side we played at the time 1970, GI GI also released on Contempo and there is a write up in BLUES & SOUL SHOWING A FUL BUSTED GIRL SINGER? NICE! :wicked:DAVE

this is a nice tune by them, just sold a uk demo of keep on searchin too

any spare pama sleeves dave

the mohawks were pamas soul session uk band led by mike hawksworth? Who jumped on the reggae bandwagon.

Dave do you know this....this is the unmistakeable vocal of Jackie Edwards...and Edwards in the writing credits.I also have another one by them from 72 called Hurricane on UK Pama which is a bonafide sixties style dancer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDb71kKi7rw.

HI YES IT'S A HARD FIND, THE VERY FACT THAT I FORGOT TO MENTION THE GREAT SONG WRITER WORKAHOLIC IS SHAMEFUL, HE AND MUFF WINWOOD.HAD THE MOST TALENTED PEOPLE AROUND THEM LIKE PP ARNOLD, AND THE SMALL FACES WHO DID LOT OF SESSION WORK FOR JACKIE, AND YOU JUST DON'T NO WHO IS ON THESE INDEPENDENT RECORD COMPANY'S? I WENT TO PP ARNOLD'S HOME AND MET FUZZY HER PARTNER THE HOUSE HAD IT'S OWN STUDIO IN CHIPPING NORTON, THE ARTIST SHE & FUZZY KNEW WAS LIKE A UK MOTOWN SET UP, ONE BIG FAMILY, WE AL NO THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE DID NOT HAVE BIG HITS, BUT THEY WHERE THE CREAM OF THE CROP, THANKS TO PHILIP'S WHO PAID THE BILLS AND THE INSPIRATION OF BLACK AMERICA MANY OF THE FAMOUS WOULD NOT HAVE MADE IT, NO ERIC OR ELTON KIKI OR MAD ALANE, NO PROGRESSIVE ROCK MICK ABRAHAM'S FREE, JIMMY CLIFF BOB MARLEY.THERE IS A WEALTH OF UK JA USA TAPES TO BE PLAYED AND AS FOR OWEN GREY PAT KELLY THE SCENES GOT LOADS OF FINDS STILL TO GET EXPOSURE I HAVESTIL GOT 2 SPARE DOBY DOBSON. JACKIE EDWARDS BREAD SINGLES ARE A MUST HAVE ALSO ALL PAMA IS WORTH COLLECTING BLUE/PURPLE I GOT RIDE OF 40 MINT DOUBLES A FEW MONTHS AGO, IT HAS SOME GREAT STUFF ON IT AND MOST OF THE SESSION SINGERS LIKE ROY DOCKER AND SONNY COX WHO RECORD THE CHOKING KIND IS LISTED AT £8 AS I AM HEAD TRIPPING I WILL END HOWEVER ALL BEING WELL I WILL BE AT WOLVES RECORD FAIR WITH ABOUT 800 REGGAE AND 400 SOUL NEXT SAT 8TH OCT, MICK SMITH AS ALWAYS WILL BE THERE SO THATS A LOT OF QUALITY, NEED TO DRINK AND SLOW DOWN DAVE (NEER BREAK THE SPED LIMIT) K

any spare pama sleeves dave

TOADY BOY How are you! you areaware that the french spanish and germans pay £5 each for the BOSS SOUNDS ON PAMA?~? THEY DO A REPRO OF THE ORIGANAL, AND I MAKE MY OWN BLACK AND WHITE ONES I USE ORIGANAL WAVEY TOP PLAIN AND ADD PRE-RELEASE ON, IF THE LOOK BAD IT MEANSTHEY LOOK ORIGANAL. THERE WAS A FRENCH MAN WHO PAID £100 FOR A PAPER BAG OUT OF BUSTERS SHACK, ANY THING THAT IS ORIGANAL MAKES MONEY, TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT YOUR JACKPOT PRE AND YOU MAY FIND Mr BUNNY LEE HAS WRITTEN THE TITLE IN THIS CASE ZAPATOO THE TIGER, THERE IS A GOD CHANCE THAT I WAS THE FIRST WHITE TEENAGER TO BUY THIS ON RELEASE, AND THE PAMA GAS BAG? DAS GOOD YA? DAVE FROM HIS YARD PON HILL

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ha ha 7/6 pre price a lot then ? Might see you next week mate

I have the german release and my pic sleeve isn't green like the one pictured

it came out in holland, belgium france and germany all on different labels with different pic sleeves...are you saying there are two german sleeves bob..just sold the uk demo for £60..the one chalky posted up is my picture

it came out in holland, belgium france and germany all on different labels with different pic sleeves...are you saying there are two german sleeves bob..just sold the uk demo for £60..the one chalky posted up is my picture

No, just pointing out the german sleeve that I have (on the injection label) is the same photo as the green sleeve but is an ugly brownish red instead of green. Thanks everyone for all the info on the group in this thread, I knew nothing about them and was interested in finding out more.

this is a nice tune by them, just sold a uk demo of keep on searchin too

this was issued in 82 in belgium.....recorded in 68 tho....does anyone know if there is an earlier release in any country or did it just stay in the can for a few years

Edited October 2, 201113 yr by dave pinch

I reread through this thread and now I'm confused. Why was the Marvels Five record (which got a US release on uptown) posted? Are the Marvels Five the same group as the Marvels (maybe plus 2 members)? Is one of the people on the pic sleeve Jackie Edwards? Anyone got a full discography of the soul records by this one (or two) groups? thanks in advance.

bobo just counted 35 marvels 45s all look at a quick glance to be uk productions

no mention of keep on running in my huge book and not in the 35 they recorded

Some footage of them.............your answer is probably in the comments after the vid.

thanks so much, the comments give the names of the three singers and say they were occasionally joined by Jackie Edwards and Hazel McCauley. I guess they must be the "five" in Marvels Five.

Do the other 35 45s sound like straight soul also or are most of them reggae?

ha ha 7/6 pre price a lot then ? Might see you next week mate

GOOD EVENING HERE IS SOME BREAKING NEWS OR YESTERDAYS CHIP WRAPPINGS, A CHANCE TO GAIN OUR OLD THREAD OF JAMAICAN R&B SOUL, WHILE TH BROTHERS & SISTERS TRY AND FIND HOW MANY GREAT RECORDS COME TO US THANKS TO PHILIP'S CO (EVEN HAD THERE OWN FOOT BALL TEAM PSV) CAN I RECOMMEND A NICE SOUL RECORD FROM JA..IF YOU ALREADY OWN IT, YOU ARE IN THE IN CROWD? IF NOT YOU HAVE TO PLAY WITH THE GIRLS TEAM? FROM PRODUCER AL T JOE THE B SIDE OF "IT'S A SHAME" IS A FINE SONG CALLED "DESERTION" it's on UK. DUKE. 70 THIS IS A SLOW SOUL RECORD BUT YOU CAN PLAY AT FULL NOTCH AND GET A QUALITY MID TEMPO RECORD, SO DON'T DELAY AND GO TODAY TO YOUR LOCAL ONE STOP RECORD SHACK AND SAY:- AL T JOE PON DUKE WHERE IT IS? DAVE THE DRUG SAID IT'S A ****** BULLET AND NO MISTAKES, UK DUKE 70

CAN'T DO A SCAN AS I HAVE A JA BLANK, WARNING THIS IS NOT A SKINHEAD REGGAE TUNE, SO IF YOU DON'T LIKE SOUL MUSIC YOU WON'T LIKE THIS

THAT'S NOT AIMED AT GROWN UPS BUT MOD MAY DAY 79 TYPES??? GOOD LUCK I HAVE MANY RECORDS THAT SHOULD BE PLAYED , HOPE TO SEE YOU AT TORCH 11 STOKE DAVE

no mention of the above records or the marvel 5. 1962 -1980 35 recordings only 3 issued in jamaica hope this is of intrest

no mention of the above records or the marvel 5. 1962 -1980 35 recordings only 3 issued in Jamaica hope this is of interest

Hi All ..Toady Boy there are some obscure records on them President Labels that are crap! there is one on GULL and it's the same group but the singers surely are not the same ones, this is Ali to common in our scene! for example I first saw Brown oat the Rainbow (Finsbury Park Astoria)in 71 the line up was every thing you would want to see Fred Wesley Botsy and Marcio Parker were al there the whole event isby far the best soul show I have seen even better than the DELLS ,and you can't compair to the show had in Wolves so my point the 3 recordsyou a speaking about isthe same group as was al those who worked with JAMES BROWN DAVE

saw the marvells 1970 six in one club tonbrige kent still got the fly some were. oh yey last time see jim silles bofay arms snt jons hill clapham wen pama dice was givin some.

the "you've been running" 45 which came out in belgium in 1982, states " a ziggy jackson production" and sounds to me like it was recorded around the same time as the uk columbia 45

I have the german release and my pic sleeve isn't green like the one pictured

Bob, german release is on Ariola and has the green sleeve as pictured. Injection release is dutch or belgian.

Was the French release on Frankie as well?

Bob, german release is on Ariola and has the green sleeve as pictured. Injection release is dutch or belgian.

sorry, it must be my poor european country identification skills

it came out in holland, belgium france and germany all on different labels with different pic sleeves...are you saying there are two german sleeves bob..just sold the uk demo for £60..the one chalky posted up is my picture

HI ALL I wish I had known you were seling the DEMO! why so cheap? for such a rare UK NORTHERN SOUL record that's what I don't get?? DAVE

HI ALL I wish I had known you were seling the DEMO! why so cheap? for such a rare UK NORTHERN SOUL record that's what I don't get?? DAVE

i sold it on ebay about 2 months ago dave.......i put it on here for £100 twice. it was there for all to see....never sold. so i put it on the bay startin at £9.99 and it made £60..maybe all its worth....bought it from mick smith for £15 years ago so cant grumble..seriously tho i dont think the uk issue or the euro labels are worth anymore than £40

dave

Bob, german release is on Ariola and has the green sleeve as pictured. Injection release is dutch or belgian.

the dutch release is also on columbia in a nice p/s as well

i sold it on ebay about 2 months ago dave.......i put it on here for £100 twice. it was there for all to see....never sold. so i put it on the bay startin at £9.99 and it made £60..maybe all its worth....bought it from mick smith for £15 years ago so cant grumble..seriously tho i dont think the uk issue or the euro labels are worth anymore than £40

dave

HI DAVE .So you did, this was just a comment of surprise from me that it went for such a low price, your logic is a bit like mine in that you look at the record and orig price to value it rather than the current market price? i call this the Jeanette White Music A&M DEMO UK issue as the going rate for it has never increased for over 20 years and it's current value is still the same £25, I would never let my copy go for that price? Even though I have been through really tough times at the moment, I will not sell my records to sort out a situation that was inflicted upon me, when Pete Smith sold his John Andrews last year, I thought at the time although he got good money for it, if it was me i would have to sell 2000 records before i sold my copy as like the marvels any UK SOUL will always be the crown jewels for the future, and when you look back at the records you once had don't you regret selling them? another example is this the original NOLAN CHANCE DEMO that I paid £1.75 from John Anderson 1974and I gave to Mick Smith in 78 when i walked of the scene to clean myself up, cost me £200 to replace it from Dave Welding, my point is in this example £200 is about as cheap as it goes for that record, and i know Mick would buy it tomorrow of me, but it will cost me £250 if i wanted to buy me another copy, as i say the reason I did not buy your DEMO is i did not have the cash had you stated it was a trade i would have given my issue and some cash for it, but you did not know that, i don't know wgo owns the copy on Johns list but it is bound to go for 3 fugues Dave in the future if I see a record on your listings I will try and bata for them? DAVE the SKINT.

You can see The Marvels here backing Dandy's hit

https://youtu.be/J3V_umoW5kM

Dave the drug, you definitely must to share must obscure SOUL JA! maybe in this topic or in other. I'll be checking...

Edited October 5, 201113 yr by MARIO MANJARREZ

HI DAVE .So you did, this was just a comment of surprise from me that it went for such a low price, your logic is a bit like mine in that you look at the record and orig price to value it rather than the current market price? i call this the Jeanette White Music A&M DEMO UK issue as the going rate for it has never increased for over 20 years and it's current value is still the same £25, I would never let my copy go for that price? Even though I have been through really tough times at the moment, I will not sell my records to sort out a situation that was inflicted upon me, when Pete Smith sold his John Andrews last year, I thought at the time although he got good money for it, if it was me i would have to sell 2000 records before i sold my copy as like the marvels any UK SOUL will always be the crown jewels for the future, and when you look back at the records you once had don't you regret selling them? another example is this the original NOLAN CHANCE DEMO that I paid £1.75 from John Anderson 1974and I gave to Mick Smith in 78 when i walked of the scene to clean myself up, cost me £200 to replace it from Dave Welding, my point is in this example £200 is about as cheap as it goes for that record, and i know Mick would buy it tomorrow of me, but it will cost me £250 if i wanted to buy me another copy, as i say the reason I did not buy your DEMO is i did not have the cash had you stated it was a trade i would have given my issue and some cash for it, but you did not know that, i don't know wgo owns the copy on Johns list but it is bound to go for 3 fugues Dave in the future if I see a record on your listings I will try and bata for them? DAVE the SKINT.

one thing we do have in common dave is that weer both dave the skint....i know what your saying. ive had some records 2, 3, 4 times over ..bought cheap and as the years roll on you have to pay more for them when want them back.victors.. bernard williams shirley lawson etc..had to sell to fund wants..i never dismiss buying anything back tho

dave

That Marvels is a ten bob record.

That Marvels is a ten bob record.

7/6d to be correct Pete? As I have mentioned before my SOUND SYSTEM is bespoke and ideal for playing soul and reggae it was made for me, and one day we will get a rare record collectors night going, and anyone can have a go at playing whatever comes from your box, all that's needed is a pub that is on it's last legs, someone to lift my eqpt, as I have to many health issues, there is a template of what i want this Sunday in NORWICH it only gets a few collectors but the spectrum of tunes played beats any all-nighters I don't care if only 5 people come as long as they enjoy it, any takers or in crowds please contact me, i am 60 in JAN that could be the start, do 6 over the year, all i need is a few collectors to commit themselves to attend you cant all be apathetic on a Sunday DAVE 4 F**K SAKE KILWORTH

sounds good to me dave go for it !

That Marvels is a ten bob record.

i wouldnt say that cheap pete lol but some people do believe its a £75 when the reality is more £25/30....my uk demo was nice and i cant say ive ever seen another but on issue or euro release £30....in all honesty i was happy to get £60 for the uk demo ,, that and a few more like it had to go to fund a want which is the only way i can do stuff these days

dave the skint

dave

i wouldnt say that cheap pete lol but some people do believe its a £75 when the reality is more £25/30....my uk demo was nice and i cant say ive ever seen another but on issue or euro release £30....in all honesty i was happy to get £60 for the uk demo ,, that and a few more like it had to go to fund a want which is the only way i can do stuff these days

dave the skint

dave

hi dave

what sort of price is youve been running fetching ,also what is the a side to the record

john

i wouldnt say that cheap pete lol but some people do believe its a £75 when the reality is more £25/30....my uk demo was nice and i cant say ive ever seen another but on issue or euro release £30....in all honesty i was happy to get £60 for the uk demo ,, that and a few more like it had to go to fund a want which is the only way i can do stuff these days

dave the skint

dave

I picked a copy up in better condition than stated and less than a month ago. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/120793755990?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649#ht_500wt_1413

hi dave

what sort of price is youve been running fetching ,also what is the a side to the record

john

i havent got the record at hand but will have a look tomorrow..i rate it it at £40

dave

the other side is a version of daddy's home

i havent got the record at hand but will have a look tomorrow..i rate it it at £40

dave

cheers

never heard youve been running until looking at these posts will look out for it

regards john

Does anyone know who the Marvels are? Was also released in Belgium on Frankie and Germany on Ariola, with Picture Sleeves. Do the sleeves give any info?

Green and White UK Demo

Was it released in france too...

This answers the question "who were The Marvels?"pretty well: https://hearthesounds.blogspot.com/2009/06/rock-steady-with-marvels.html

And I have a big soft spot for a 1978 LP they released called "In The Middle Of The Night" https://darcysfeelit.blogspot.com/2010/05/marvel.html