Hi everybody,

I'm about to buy me a copy of 'I'll be around' by Gino Washington.

I have the option to cop a mint copy of either the Atac 102 demo, or the Mala 12029 one. Do you know which one is the better pressing (local issue is £50 more than the other)?

I figure that both are pressed on styrene, don't they?

Any info or help would be appreciated, thank you by advance.

Best

Edited December 16, 201113 yr by trd

sure the paper label mala ones are vinyl

My ATAC is on vinyl, i would assume the MALA would be styrene, they didn't make a whole lot of vinyl did they ?

They should both be the same price anyway!

ive had both twice & find the sound on mala is better.

also ill be around is a longer mix on mala.

atac vinyl & mala styrene.

Edited December 16, 201113 yr by sepia

I think there are 2 Atac pressings.

My WDJ is West Coast as it has Hollywood address. There's local Detroit Atac too.

ROD

Thanks for all the infos.

As I have had bad experiences with styrene, I think I'll stay to my first option, getting the local Detroit Atac 45, as a matter of playing it out loud and still have a good sound.

Thank you, all the best.

Edited December 17, 201113 yr by trd

All my Atacs were on vinyl. All the Malas I've seen were on Styrene. Styrene is always the faster to wear with play, but NOT always the best in fidelity.

I think there are 2 Atac pressings.

My WDJ is West Coast as it has Hollywood address. There's local Detroit Atac too.

ROD

Indeed Rod it came out twice on Atac, I've got it as Geno Washington

Atac 102 as Gino Washington, and

Atac SW7823 as Geno Washington with the Altrasonics and the Versatones (great backing groups names!)

steve

Those Detroit Versatones were the same group that recorded for Motown in The early '60s (Smokey produced), and for Magic City afterwards. Yes, Gino had some of his Atac Records pressed in LA in the '70s. I wonder if he moved there for a couple years?

Here's an earlier thread on the same record.

The Altrasonics were Gino's touring band (musicians). The Versatones were the male vocal back-up group. He also had a female back-up group in 1963-64 (Amon/Wand Records), The Rochelles. At that time, The Atlantics were his touring band.

Those Detroit Versatones were the same group that recorded for Motown in The early '60s (Smokey produced), and for Magic City afterwards. Yes, Gino had some of his Atac Records pressed in LA in the '70s. I wonder if he moved there for a couple years?

The Altrasonics were Gino's touring band (musicians). The Versatones were the male vocal back-up group. He also had a female back-up group in 1963-64 (Amon/Wand Records), The Rochelles. At that time, The Atlantics were his touring band.

cheers for the info Robb, regarding Altrasonics & Versatones, didnt know Versatones were at Motown,did they have any releases under another name there? (know there's no releases under that name at Motown)

...always wondered bout the extended credits on the 2nd release on Atac.

steve

cheers for the info Robb, regarding Altrasonics & Versatones, didnt know Versatones were at Motown,did they have any releases under another name there? (know there's no releases under that name at Motown)

...always wondered bout the extended credits on the 2nd release on Atac.

steve

There were no vinyl releases, but three of their unreleased 1963 cuts (all produced by Smokey) have been released on "Cellarful of Motown": "Doctor Jekyll and Mr. Hyde", "Company Time" and "I Could Make A Million". You'd probably not care much about them. they are all sung and orchestrated in a "neo-Doowop" style. they sound more like 1959 Tamla Records than 1963. That's one reason why our boss refused to allow them to be slated for release on Motown's "From The Vaults" series.

There were no vinyl releases, but three of their unreleased 1963 cuts (all produced by Smokey) have been released on "Cellarful of Motown": "Doctor Jekyll and Mr. Hyde", "Company Time" and "I Could Make A Million". You'd probably not care much about them. they are all sung and orchestrated in a "neo-Doowop" style. they sound more like 1959 Tamla Records than 1963. That's one reason why our boss refused to allow them to be slated for release on Motown's "From The Vaults" series.

Thanx Robb, appreciate the info

steve