I've noticed quite a few of these appearing on Ebay and sales lists over last few months - probably due to IL punting it on one of his pod casts (!)

Most seem to be demos, Only seen one issue out of maybe the last half dozen I've seen listed for sale. Would that be right ?

cheers,

Denny

42 copies of this 45 have been logged on Popsike over the past four years.

33 of them have been demos.

9 of them have been issues.

6 to 1 the demo,on collectors frenzy

ricky.

42 copies of this 45 have been logged on Popsike over the past four years.

33 of them have been demos.

9 of them have been issues.

Hey Seb,

thanks for doing the stats !

Denny

love you guys!, this is a love or hate tune, personally......gary holyman blew me out of the water with this 4 years ago and never tire of it. former tv film star with half decent voice meets thom bell and philadelphian magic occurs...backing track awesome for 1971. i had TWO COPIES, one week after the other, demo off gary, issue off ebay, courtesy of dolly. demo came by way of trades, issue £75, sold it on to capt. grice.......kate LOVES the record but nige has NEVER played it out. i played it at brig and CLEARED the floor!,....mr. eccles said; by eck lad, tha's braver than me! i dont know,....do we call it something of a cult classic or what?, is it played under the popcorn banner even?...one thing is for certain....its biggest fan is a certain mr. searling, richard told me he spent a complete fortnight's holiday in florida, trying to hunt down a copy but, as even pete smith has stated many times, amongst others, demo's are, in most cases, more prevalent than issues and it appears to ring true with tick-tock.

Everything about this record screams to me "SHITE!" But I love it and its on my wants list at the moment.

Everything about this record screams to me "SHITE!" But I love it and its on my wants list at the moment.

swallow your pride bro, the tune is an absolute stormer!, and, thinking on....imagine if richard had, had this at the casino and what would he have covered it up as?

swallow your pride bro, the tune is an absolute stormer!, and, thinking on....imagine if richard had, had this at the casino and what would he have covered it up as?

Its one of those Marmite tunes.......and I do like Marmite!

I like the start, and the ending of this track, not so much the bit in the middle, maybe its the vocal, but the backing is pure Northern and Camp as hell!!

Mal

Any takers for Keep Growing Strong, the "A" (plug) side?

At least with the demo copies you've both tunes rather than mono/stereo plug side,as is often the case. Probably this holds down the value of the stock copy a little bit.

Some of the demos have black text whilst others are in red text.....not sure if this has any baring on scarcity/value???

Any takers for Keep Growing Strong, the "A" (plug) side?

At least with the demo copies you've both tunes rather than mono/stereo plug side,as is often the case. Probably this holds down the value of the stock copy a little bit.

Some of the demos have black text whilst others are in red text.....not sure if this has any baring on scarcity/value???

I THINK IVE POINTED THIS OUT BEFORE....but for the uninitiated...my theory is, that even in 1971 a white singer was probably told that "BETCHA BY GOLLY WOW" as a song title wasn't suitable and sounded too black....turn-a-blind-eye-discreet-racism perhaps?...or maybe not. either way the title changed. perhaps it was changed from the former for THE STYLISTICS debut single, ironically in the same year. funny isnt it?, they had a smash hit and ms. stevens offering sank without trace, yet it remains that thom bell was at the helm and you can see, hear & feel his stamp of authority on the disc...so much so that he conspired to record several other uptempo b-sides on other artists including philly's first super group, THE DELFONICS...check out "LOOKING UP IS DOWN".

I THINK IVE POINTED THIS OUT BEFORE....but for the uninitiated...my theory is, that even in 1971 a white singer was probably told that "BETCHA BY GOLLY WOW" as a song title wasn't suitable and sounded too black....turn-a-blind-eye-discreet-racism perhaps?...or maybe not. either way the title changed. perhaps it was changed from the former for THE STYLISTICS debut single, ironically in the same year. funny isnt it?, they had a smash hit and ms. stevens offering sank without trace, yet it remains that thom bell was at the helm and you can see, hear & feel his stamp of authority on the disc...so much so that he conspired to record several other uptempo b-sides on other artists including philly's first super group, THE DELFONICS...check out "LOOKING UP IS DOWN".

The reason for the title change is explained here - https://souljoneswords.blogspot.co.uk/2012/01/betcha-by-golly-wow-exclusive-thom-bell.html

love you guys!, this is a love or hate tune, personally......gary holyman blew me out of the water with this 4 years ago and never tire of it. former tv film star with half decent voice meets thom bell and philadelphian magic occurs...backing track awesome for 1971. i had TWO COPIES, one week after the other, demo off gary, issue off ebay, courtesy of dolly. demo came by way of trades, issue £75, sold it on to capt. grice.......kate LOVES the record but nige has NEVER played it out. i played it at brig and CLEARED the floor!,....mr. eccles said; by eck lad, tha's braver than me! i dont know,....do we call it something of a cult classic or what?, is it played under the popcorn banner even?...one thing is for certain....its biggest fan is a certain mr. searling, richard told me he spent a complete fortnight's holiday in florida, trying to hunt down a copy but, as even pete smith has stated many times, amongst others, demo's are, in most cases, more prevalent than issues and it appears to ring true with tick-tock.

Think you will find I played it down the phone to John Manship much earlier. We actually had discussion about issues & demos(I had both at the time-The pair had cost me $25 inc p&P) and we agreed probably the same as it was her last attempt at the charts- so got promoted a lot and was issued in quantity to hopefully pick up on the demand. I love it but a lot dont! My view is if you like Dont pity me you will probably like this!

swallow your pride bro, the tune is an absolute stormer!, and, thinking on....imagine if richard had, had this at the casino and what would he have covered it up as?

Muriel Day.