Can any of you shed some lights on how popular soul/rare Soul was with the original skinheads !!! A few stories & pictures about it would be fab too !! Ady Crosdale mentioned his early beginnings were with skinheads who were mainly into soul !!!! It would be great if some of you could set the record straight of how popular soul & rare soul was with the old boot boy brigade !!! I guess Soul was more popular with the early skinheads up north 68-72 ???

At the recent Bletsoe reunion there was a printed booklet given out produced by one of our soul sourcers ,on the second from back page there are a number of illustrations of styles of the time on one of them is a lad wearing what I know as a pair of rupert check pants, I havent got a scanner but anyone who has and has one of these booklets I reckon it would be good to upload those pictures on to this thread.Theres also a picture of shoes one of which is the basketweaves that were about sueade head days and after.

they came from a book originally but i can not remember the title

they came from a book originally but i can not remember the title

I haven't seen the Bletsoe booklet but it sounds like the illustrations from Skinhead by Nick Knight, which is mostly pics of late 70 early 80s skins/boneheads but within it is a narrative and illustrations of the evolution of skin style from around 68/69 through to about 73ish, I think, by an original skincalled Jim Ferguson? The book originally came out in the 80s, I've got a copy somewhere so if nobody beats me to it or there isn't a link to it I'll try scanning it in tomorrow if I get some time.

Great Thread Men,, the best era and youth cult by far 

Glasgow early 80s

skinhead 2.jpgGreat Thread Men,, the best era and youth cult by far 

Glasgow early 80s

 

Edited July 18, 201410 yr by Lenny Harkins

skinhead 2.jpgGreat Thread Men,, the best era and youth cult by far 

Glasgow early 80s

More Glasgow early 8ts....loved it

Fascinating how this look cropped up around the world:

https://www.ivy-style.com/the-miyuki-zoku-japans-first-ivy-rebels.html

 

Taken in 1969, I was only 17 with my whole life in front of me. These photos had been stored in a garage for over 40 years and only came to light 3 weeks ago. We were well on our way to soul music by then. 

Edited July 20, 201410 yr by Chris L

Fascinating how this look cropped up around the world:

https://www.ivy-style.com/the-miyuki-zoku-japans-first-ivy-rebels.html

 

Theres some photos I am sure Ive seen on here of some black youth from compton late sixties wearing what was to in my opinion a smoothie seaude head look.button down shirts,loafers,lace up leather shoes,straight leg sta press type trews wore slightly short,v neck sweaters etc.I guess that look among lads was almost universal,why shouldnt it be it was smart as owt(for my weight and body shape of the time  for me that was)

Edited July 20, 201410 yr by manusf3a

manusf3a, on 20 Jul 2014 - 6:02 PM, said:

Theres some photos I am sure Ive seen on here of some black youth from compton late sixties wearing what was to in my opinion a smoothie seaude head look.button down shirts,loafers,lace up leather shoes,straight leg sta press type trews wore slightly short,v neck sweaters etc.I guess that look among lads was almost universal,why shouldnt it be it was smart as owt(for my weight and body shape of the time  for me that was)

I think the pic you mention is already on this thread. Got it somewhere but unable to post it...

 

It all derives from the so-called Ivy Look, the way upscale white Americans dressed at Ivy League universities. There's an intriguing piece in a book I have ('The Look' by Paul Gorman) by Kevin Rowland (with photographic evidence) where he talks about the emergence of this style in 60s London, via shops like Squire and the Ivy Shop. Apparently, the very first 'skinheads' were known as 'peanuts'. The idea was to be subversive by dressing like conservative Americans....But it all got lost and watered down when the tabloids got involved. From what I have read the haircut was known as an 'astronaut' cut There's also another book called 'The Fashion of Football' with a fascinating chapter based on an interview with Rowland...

I think the pic you mention is already on this thread. Got it somewhere but unable to post it...

 

It all derives from the so-called Ivy Look, the way upscale white Americans dressed at Ivy League universities. There's an intriguing piece in a book I have ('The Look' by Paul Gorman) by Kevin Rowland (with photographic evidence) where he talks about the emergence of this style in 60s London, via shops like Squire and the Ivy Shop. Apparently, the very first 'skinheads' were known as 'peanuts'. The idea was to be subversive by dressing like conservative Americans....But it all got lost and watered down when the tabloids got involved. From what I have read the haircut was known as an 'astronaut' cut There's also another book called 'The Fashion of Football' with a fascinating chapter based on an interview with Rowland...

 

Used to buy all my clothes at the Ivy shop in Richmond.   From my 16th onwards, ie 1968 up until about 1971. 

Edited July 21, 201410 yr by Chris L

I think the pic you mention is already on this thread. Got it somewhere but unable to post it...

It all derives from the so-called Ivy Look, the way upscale white Americans dressed at Ivy League universities. There's an intriguing piece in a book I have ('The Look' by Paul Gorman) by Kevin Rowland (with photographic evidence) where he talks about the emergence of this style in 60s London, via shops like Squire and the Ivy Shop. Apparently, the very first 'skinheads' were known as 'peanuts'. The idea was to be subversive by dressing like conservative Americans....But it all got lost and watered down when the tabloids got involved. From what I have read the haircut was known as an 'astronaut' cut There's also another book called 'The Fashion of Football' with a fascinating chapter based on an interview with Rowland...

the buzz cut

Used to buy all my clothes at the Ivy shop in Richmond.   From my 16th onwards, ie 1968 up until about 1971. 

InsidetheIvyshopRichmond.jpg

And John Simons is still going:

 

https://www.johnsimons.co.uk/

 

He moved to Chiltern St from Covent garden a couple of years back now.

Taken in 1969, I was only 17 with my whole life in front of me. These photos had been stored in a garage for over 40 years and only came to light 3 weeks ago. We were well on our way to soul music by then. 

1969 Sue-page-005.jpg1969oneA.JPG

1969twoA.JPG1969threeB.JPG

 

Absolutely fantastic photos Chris

Absolutely fantastic photos Chris

 

Recognise me ?

And John Simons is still going:

 

https://www.johnsimons.co.uk/

 

He moved to Chiltern St from Covent garden a couple of years back now.

 

Yes I did know that, I think he's gone from there now though. There was another shop in Richmond we'd buy from called Quincy's. I suspect that's long gone.

Absolutely fantastic photos Chris

 

BTW nice little story to this. All the photos except one were taken by that girl, her name was Sue. I hadn't seen for about 3 years and

in 1974  I met her at the Cromwell club in London, she was living with Ian Britton the Chelsea footballer, he and Ian Hutchinson were

chucking pints down their throats.

Edited July 21, 201410 yr by Chris L

Brilliant photos Chris

Recognise me ?

 

Yeah, you're the ugly c*nt

Worth bearing in mind that A Clockwork Orange was never banned by any official body in the UK.

Director Stanley Kubrick himself withdrew the film after the initial spate of copycat violence, but the film had been on release for over a year before he did this.

I shared a drink or three with Kubrick a few weeks before he died and he said he wished he hadn't made the film

Original "brolly boys" ?

 

'Brolly Boys', Montrose, Scotland, early 1970s

Edited August 7, 20186 yr by sunnysoul

As has been said earlier in this thread (a good while ago), many of the original mod / soul boys from the mid 60's never really got the skinhead / suedehead scene. Guess we'd grown up a bit, were much more into steady relationships with lasses & less prone to adopt the more wild clothing choices of some skins. We didn't object to the ska / reggae music they liked as that had always been played in mod clubs back in the day. But they seemed to take over soul nights (@ places like the Attic in Donny) and change them for the worse (from our point of view).

I also never got the way that many skins / suedes were quite racist yet were happy to spend their nights dancing to 100% black music   ... WEIRD.

Never objected to selling some of my old reggae / ska 45's to any of them though (back then).

Edited August 8, 20186 yr by Roburt

On 15/11/2012 at 11:50, viphitman said:

I found a few nice pictures from around 1968-1970 from skinheads attenting market harborough allnighter 68-69 & Wilby Northampton !!!

Norman Roger from Cambs pics