Hi everyone

Two topics it would be good to get some feedback on please:

1) How does one go about getting a carver cut? For instance, where can you get this done; can you get one done from a CD or MP3; how many copies do you need to do (can you get just the one); how much does it cost?

2) Are there any 'ethical' issues relating to carvers?

Thank you

Cheers

Richard

Edited January 18, 201312 yr by Premium Stuff

Timmion do proper metal acetates, you send then a wav file via sendspace they send an acetate in return. In my experience the quality is far better than a vinyl carver. They cost about £25 for two sides.

Timmion do proper metal acetates, you send then a wav file via sendspace they send an acetate in return. In my experience the quality is far better than a vinyl carver. They cost about £25 for two sides.

The sound is awesome and the quality is great!

Not sure if vinyl carvers are still in operation ?

But the service required you to either send a non returnable cd or use a upload facility for soundfiles .

Two sides of a 45 ,single disc about £20 ..label options ,square edge or thin edge options .

Options adding to the price .

I noticed Lee Jeffries of rarenorthernsoul offering a similar service just recently ?

I noticed Lee Jeffries of rarenorthernsoul offering a similar service just recently ?

And, of course, you can get a burger too!

Cheers guys

Is there anything about a new Timmion metal acetate that means there are limitations on how it can be played - e.g. equipment-wise, or numbers of times? Or can it be treated just like a normal vinyl/styrene record?

Cheers

Richard

The Timmion acetates I have have had plenty of plays on equipment of differing quality and there is no deterioration in the quality of the discs.

The Timmion acetates I have have had plenty of plays on equipment of differing quality and there is no deterioration in the quality of the discs.

And the equipment is OK too I guess?

Cheers

Richard

And the equipment is OK too I guess?

Cheers

Richard

i'm just saying I've DJ'ed all over with one, on various decks and no problems with the quality of the disc.

I was looking to get a couple of carvers done courtesy of someone over here in the Netherlands. I'd forgotten about Timmion and had intended to give them a go - will do so this time around now that you've reminded me.

Vinyl Carvers - I used them a couple of months back. Think they're operating out of Austria now.

Don't spin back to cue with acetates though. Knackers them as easy as styrene.

If you just type in vinyl disc cutting into google you'll find them all over the place.

Timmion website suggests not to bother putting an MP3 on an acetate as the file is compressed.

If I only have an MP3 and the track is not on CD do I have any options to convert the MP3 to another format that kind of 'uncompresses' it?

Sorry - I don't really k now what I'm talking about here

Cheers

Richard

Timmion website suggests not to bother putting an MP3 on an acetate as the file is compressed.

If I only have an MP3 and the track is not on CD do I have any options to convert the MP3 to another format that kind of 'uncompresses' it?

Sorry - I don't really k now what I'm talking about here

Cheers

Richard

you can change the mp3 to a wma or whatever you want .. but the sound will still be the same compressed quality of the original mp3 ... just in another format ..

pete

Edited January 18, 201312 yr by casper

Timmion you send an uncompressed file via sendspace, it is free as well.

Record your track as a .wav file and don't compress it to an mp3.

Record your track as a .wav file and don't compress it to an mp3.

Thanks mate but I only have it as an MP3 - is the compression process reversible to uncompress it - or am I just stuck with it?

Cheers

Richard

Thanks mate but I only have it as an MP3 - is the compression process reversible to uncompress it - or am I just stuck with it?

Cheers

Richard

It isn't reversible . But it depends what your compression rating is as most of what is removed up to a certain point is in audible to the average human ear anyway and I doubt anyone would be able to say "hang on that's compressed"!

Also mp3 is one of the older forms of compression and newer technology compressed formats such as AAC the quality is better than an mp3. I

If you right click on the audio file it should tell you what it has been compressed to, 7:1, 14:1 etc. The higher the number the more that is taken out when compressed.

What is the track, unissued or can you not get a better quality file?

Hi Richard,

Unfortunately I don't think the compression process is reversible. As has been said above, you can change the format of the file to a lossless/uncompressed format such as WAV but the file will remain compressed as this is how it was originally created.

Danny

What is the track, unissued or can you not get a better quality file?

It's an unissued track I got from you mate

Richard

The Timmion acetates I have have had plenty of plays on equipment of differing quality and there is no deterioration in the quality of the discs.

Same here!

Great - thanks for all the info and tips guys

Right - think I'm going to get one done then

Maybe get a 7 inch, but what would be the advantages of the 10" acetate if any? Better quality?

Cheers

Richard

The quality will be no different with a ten inch...although thats not what the lady's say

The difference with a ten inch is you can get 4 tracks on one, and it will cost more.

Timmion do have audiodisc labels as well if you ask.

Cool - thanks Chalky

Think it will be a single tracker - so will go for the 7"

Thanks for the tip about the labels

Cheers

Richard

you get two sides for the same price so might as well send a flip

Or ask for the same track on both sides...

Cool - cheers guys!

Richard

Actually - does anyone know if they can edit a track.

The recording I'm thinking of has talking in the studio at the start and ends a little abruptly.

Would they be able to edit off the talking at the start and then do a nice fade out over the abrupt ending?

If so I could have the full recording on one side and the edited version on the other

Cheers

Richard

Yes, you can edit the track very easily, there are lots of programs out there to do that.

No, you can't "reverse" a compressed file, & if you convert it to WMA for instance, then the sound quality will diminish still further. Anything from 320kbps upwards is normally considered high quality. 192kbps is acceptable, anything below this and the sound quality is audilbly poor.

Why would anyone get a carver done anyway? Surely you are then getting an illegal copy made to then play it in a format that isn't original, a double whammy.

Why would anyone get a carver done anyway? Surely you are then getting an illegal copy made to then play it in a format that isn't original, a double whammy.

I've got several unissued acetates that I've had cut to preserve the originals.

That's one good reason.

Actually - does anyone know if they can edit a track.

The recording I'm thinking of has talking in the studio at the start and ends a little abruptly.

Would they be able to edit off the talking at the start and then do a nice fade out over the abrupt ending?

If so I could have the full recording on one side and the edited version on the other

Cheers

Richard

I will have a listen later to the track Richard and ill cut the studio talk off and fade out for you if you can't get sorted. Any program should be able to do this, audacity for instance.

I will have a listen later to the track Richard and ill cut the studio talk off and fade out for you if you can't get sorted. Any program should be able to do this, audacity for instance.

That would be brilliant Chalky - thank you

I don't really know what I'm doing when it comes to editing programmes

Thanks very much

Cheers

Richard