i was just thinking of boots and how people try and make them look "real". have you ever noticed BB holes in boots to make them look legit? i don't know that i've ever seen one. 

 

would that be hard to do? (i always heard they ran a heated rod through a stack of records at the factory to make BB holes)

 

 

think its walk like a man has a black spot on the boot must have photocopied the label from an original with a drill hole

kev

Seen quite a lot of records with 'fake' drill holes, when we first saw these things we even tried putting holes through British releases 

think its walk like a man has a black spot on the boot must have photocopied the label from an original with a drill hole

kev

 

As does the WD boot of Walter Jackson - Where Have All The Flowers Gone.

 

I can't recall any boots that have been holed, but as Pete says he's seen some, they must out there.

 

Although I know what the hole is for, why are they called "BB" holes - I'm sure it's obvious, but can't work it out. (it took me many years to find out what c/w and b/w actually stood for, probably as late as 1980 before it finally dawned on me, so I was simply years behind on that.

 

A small digression, but I still haven't got a clue what "sic" means. Seen it a lot in listings etc. is it something to do with a sticker mark ?

 

Cheers

Mick

 

 

Although I know what the hole is for, why are they called "BB" holes - I'm sure it's obvious, but can't work it out. (it took me many years to find out what c/w and b/w actually stood for, probably as late as 1980 before it finally dawned on me, so I was simply years behind on that.

 

 

Cheers

Mick

 

Always thought BB was for ball bearing where the records were holed with

one fired through them.

 

Kegsy

 

 

Always thought BB was for ball bearing where the records were holed with

one fired through them.

 

Kegsy

 

It is - BB gun

Salvadors - the green lookalike ones

As does the WD boot of Walter Jackson - Where Have All The Flowers Gone.

 

I can't recall any boots that have been holed, but as Pete says he's seen some, they must out there.

 

Although I know what the hole is for, why are they called "BB" holes - I'm sure it's obvious, but can't work it out. (it took me many years to find out what c/w and b/w actually stood for, probably as late as 1980 before it finally dawned on me, so I was simply years behind on that.

 

A small digression, but I still haven't got a clue what "sic" means. Seen it a lot in listings etc. is it something to do with a sticker mark ?

 

Cheers

Mick

Think the hole resembles the hole created by a BB gun - I guess the US name for an air gun.  BB does not stand for ball bearing but 'BB' is the size of shotgun shot used in the original guns - think it is coincidental that some guns are able to fire the 'correct' size ball bearings!

 

re 'SIC' - not seen it myself to indicate condition - are you sure the sellers are not just using it in its true sense i.e. to indicate it is written as is? 

 

Mike

As does the WD boot of Walter Jackson - Where Have All The Flowers Gone.

 

I can't recall any boots that have been holed, but as Pete says he's seen some, they must out there.

 

Although I know what the hole is for, why are they called "BB" holes - I'm sure it's obvious, but can't work it out. (it took me many years to find out what c/w and b/w actually stood for, probably as late as 1980 before it finally dawned on me, so I was simply years behind on that.

 

A small digression, but I still haven't got a clue what "sic" means. Seen it a lot in listings etc. is it something to do with a sticker mark ?

 

Cheers

Mick

 

Sic in brackets after something generally denotes a grammatical error/spelling mistake.

I recall reading in the Manship bootleg guide of a particular bootleg which had a bb hole. It was doubly unusual because it was a demo, which would not normally have these holes.

Have just checked and it's a bootleg of Darrell Banks - Angel Baby on Atco. Apparently this bootleg came with a bb hole and Atco company sleeve.

Anyone post a scan please?

Cheers

Richard

Edited December 26, 201311 yr by Premium Stuff

Sic in brackets after something generally denotes a grammatical error/spelling mistake.

 

 

That's right Barry, it's not a record dealer thing it's an English thing which means the writer has copied the original word even though it's misspelt.

That's right Barry, it's not a record dealer thing it's an English thing which means the writer has copied the original word even though it's misspelt.

 

I know 

As above: it's when you know something is spelt wrong but use it because that's how it's written e.g. Let's All Do The Shotgunn (sic)

Sic in full is sic erat scriptum "thus was it written"

Cheers

Richard

As does the WD boot of Walter Jackson - Where Have All The Flowers Gone.

 

I can't recall any boots that have been holed, but as Pete says he's seen some, they must out there.

 

Although I know what the hole is for, why are they called "BB" holes - I'm sure it's obvious, but can't work it out. (it took me many years to find out what c/w and b/w actually stood for, probably as late as 1980 before it finally dawned on me, so I was simply years behind on that.

 

A small digression, but I still haven't got a clue what "sic" means. Seen it a lot in listings etc. is it something to do with a sticker mark ?

 

Cheers

Mick

thats the one i was thinking of muddled brain

kev

Sic in full is sic erat scriptum "thus was it written"

Cheers

Richard

I don't know who wrote this, but it's not a bad glossary.

 

 

https://vinylville.tripod.com/faq-1.html

As does the WD boot of Walter Jackson - Where Have All The Flowers Gone.

I can't recall any boots that have been holed, but as Pete says he's seen some, they must out there.

Although I know what the hole is for, why are they called "BB" holes - I'm sure it's obvious, but can't work it out. (it took me many years to find out what c/w and b/w actually stood for, probably as late as 1980 before it finally dawned on me, so I was simply years behind on that.

A small digression, but I still haven't got a clue what "sic" means. Seen it a lot in listings etc. is it something to do with a sticker mark ?

Cheers

Mick

Hi Mick ,always thought the reference was DH as in drill hole ?

Hi Mick ,always thought the reference was DH as in drill hole ?

 

DH is generally UK, all old US lists used to have it as BB Hole

I love this forum sometimes - four people have defined 'sic' after I did  

I love this forum sometimes - four people have defined 'sic' after I did  

 

Try this then mate

 

Sick [sic] slang definition ... crazy, cool, insane 

 

 

Try this then mate

 

Sick [sic] slang definition ... crazy, cool, insane 

 

 

don't get it!

don't get it!

Phat

BB is probably the term used after the size of the shot used in a BB Gun I would assume.

I love this forum sometimes - four people have defined 'sic' after I did  

 

Embellished your answer

BB is probably the term used after the size of the shot used in a BB Gun I would assume.

you're a funny guy Chalky!  

Edited December 26, 201311 yr by Mike Lofthouse

Phat

don't get that either!

Those bb holes? I'm guessing they were named after BB guns? I'm just guessing like...

 

I can't be arsed to read the rest of the thread but has anyone worked out what sic means yet?

Edited December 26, 201311 yr by Matt Male

Those bb holes? I'm guessing they were named after BB guns? I'm just guessing like...

 

I can't be arsed to read the rest of the thread but has anyone worked out what sic means yet?

PMSL

they are drill holes , caused by a drill.

Simple really, it's like balancing the wheels on yer motor. A select group of 45s were factory aligned and therefore drilled to create the correct balance to spin at exactly 45rpm with the least amount of wind drag. The sound from these individually and highly prized hand calibrated recordings is far superior to standard pressings