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Just wondering just how rare this one really is? Only noted as I have owned 2 copies of "I will Set You Free" in the last 8-9 years and both since sold, if I recall for £150 or so? I also think my mate Phil Shields had one?

 

JM is giving a very interesting write up suggesting really scarce? I guess I should not have sold along with the many others?

 

Anybody have a feel for the scarcity?

 

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Always thought it was a nothing tune.  Now its up for auction, I think its FANTASTIC......    




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Nope, 150 £ seems to be the price on the high end. 13 copies featured on Popsike between 27 £ (2007) and 222 $ (2011). You see...

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I've had it and sold it in the 00s, thought it was crap after a few listens. It's got a pretty bad mistake in it too if I remember right.

think I got 80 for it, by the way.

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I never rated it - then I played it a couple of weeks ago and I love it  :lol:

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Got mine in the eighties, would not have paid much for it, still got it close to mint as a record that has had a few plays can be

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Always thought it was a nothing tune.  Now its up for auction, I think its FANTASTIC...... :yes:  :ohmy:  :yes:

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I brought this blind for under a fiver in the 80s just because it was a Detroit label,forgot all about it till I saw it on JM's,I'll have to dig it out,also i don't think it's a rare as sujusted?.

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I dont think it's that rare, look at all the copies on youtube. Probably one of those 45s where all the copies had got to europe by the 90s.

I remember the mistake now - funny one too : one of the backing vocal guys gives it a solo 'yeeeess' in the wrong place. Once you hear it you cant enjoy the tune cos you just wait for it

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Yep....its a real Grow-into record  :thumbsup:

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I dont think it's that rare, look at all the copies on youtube. Probably one of those 45s where all the copies had got to europe by the 90s.

I remember the mistake now - funny one too : one of the backing vocal guys gives it a solo 'yeeeess' in the wrong place. Once you hear it you cant enjoy the tune cos you just wait for it

 

I just listened to it again.

 

The last "yes" sounds like one person maybe? Don't know how many were on it on backing vocals - guess 2-4? - but it's hardly a major error.  Sounds fine.

 

The more I hear it, the more I like it - I didn't like it when I bought it - but that's just collecting - think it's great at the moment and actually picked it out a couple of weeks ago for a pre-'65 Detroit project I'm working on. In the context of when it was recorded, it's a great record.

 

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I just listened to it again.

The last "yes" sounds like one person maybe? Don't know how many were on it on backing vocals - guess 2-4? - but it's hardly a major error. Sounds fine.

The more I hear it, the more I like it - I didn't like it when I bought it - but that's just collecting - think it's great at the moment and actually picked it out a couple of weeks ago for a pre-'65 Detroit project I'm working on. In the context of when it was recorded, it's a great record.

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Must admit, I just listened to it and it sounded pretty good. I got it around 05/06 I guess, when I had killer r&b newies coming out my ears, things like this didnt cut it at the time Edited by pow wow mik
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It can't be rare, I've got a copy  :D

 

i missed used a copy on ebay then got the next one, ages ago, can't remember what I paid but not much. Love the record but thought it was worth about a ton.

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Some nice Early soul stuff on Starmaker

The Taylor Tones is a great early girl effort and the Freddie Butler is Supurb

The Deans aint too bad either

 

Heres the track listing taken from Dave Flynns Anorak Corner 

 

Star-Maker:
1925          THE CARAVELLES - PINK LIPS / ANGRY ANGEL
1926          THE TAYLOR TONES - POOR LITTLE GIRL / A STAR
1927          BETH BYNUM - I'LL SET YOU FREE / IT HURTS TO BE IN LOVE
1928          THE DEANS - YOU GOT ME BABY / OH LITTLE STAR
1929          THE CARAVELLES - DEVIL WITH AN ANGELS SMILE / ?
1930          FREDDY BUTLER - I TOLD YOU SO / THIS ROAD
1931          THE DEANS - (LADY OF THE) CARAVAN / CHILLS, CHILLS, CHILLS
5001          THE COMMERCIALS - LOVER'S TRAIN / LET EVERYBODY DANCE
 
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It was a huge (indeed it was) Hip City spin for me in the mid nineties and I remember the first time I played it at the fabulous Hideaway Club and several people did not know it (but loved it).

 

I got all the starmaker 45s except for 5001 and wouldnt mind a copy please.

 

The Freddy Butler does sound like a version of "I Keep Forgetting", great record as Alan says. The Deans and Caravelles are early Group records, The Caravelles still showing their DooWop roots. Taylor Tones is nice also but not as good as their effort on CJ.

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I have all the Starmaker 45s, including a mint copy of the Commercials.  The Commercials were a Detroit Gospel Group under a different name.  Both cuts are pure traditional Gospel tunes with secular lyrics replacing the Gospel lyrics.

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