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  • Ady Croasdell
    Ady Croasdell

    Yes, hard to tell the difference, but someone on here will know.

  • Pete S
    Pete S

    You can soon tell the difference when you play the bootleg - it was pressed of a VG original so even if it looks mint, it'll play with crackle.

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https://www.discogs.com/Mary-Love-You-Turned-My-Bitter-Into-Sweet-Im-In-Your-Hands/release/3333604

Does this link help?

Manship guide entry suggests its legitimate issue on Modern, but doesn't mention the 1965 King label release so I'm not sure if that's legitimate issue.

However, Manship states the Modern issue was also counterfeited with one that is hard to distinguish from original.

Original deadwax reads MM 1006 - 1 (with a gap each side of the dash) in contrast to the counterfeit which reads mm-1006-1 with a triangle within a circle mark and the etching is very light.

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Yes that is very helpful thank you. A friend of mine also saw the post and has rung may telling me the difference. Mine is the counterfeit one, and Manship and Ady are correct, they are very hard to tell the difference until you see the matrix in the deadwax. Anyhoo, I only paid £8 and it's a minter, so not too fussed.

Uk King is the real deal and tricky to get in minty fresh 

 

https://www.discogs.com/Mary-Love-You-Turned-My-Bitter-Into-Sweet-Im-In-Your-Hands/release/3333604

Does this link help?

Manship guide entry suggests its legitimate issue on Modern, but doesn't mention the 1965 King label release so I'm not sure if that's legitimate issue.

However, Manship states the Modern issue was also counterfeited with one that is hard to distinguish from original.

Original deadwax reads MM 1006 - 1 (with a gap each side of the dash) in contrast to the counterfeit which reads mm-1006-1 with a triangle within a circle mark and the etching is very light.

Uk King is the real deal and tricky to get in minty fresh 

Hi Jim

You're quite right, I just checked my guide to British releases and the King issue is both legitimate and hard to obtain.

Atb

Stu

Hi Jim

You're quite right, I just checked my guide to British releases and the King issue is both legitimate and hard to obtain.

Atb

Stu

Kind of bizarre one-off situation of King picking up the rights to a Modern record.  Modern had Modern Oldies Series, and Kent repressing their hits throughout the late '60s and early '70s.  I wonder when that King issue was pressed?  (end of the 1970s?)

Kind of bizarre one-off situation of King picking up the rights to a Modern record.  Modern had Modern Oldies Series, and Kent repressing their hits throughout the late '60s and early '70s.  I wonder when that King issue was pressed?  (end of the 1970s?)

 

1965 according to the discography for the label. The label had no connection to the US one, simply being named after the owners - Rita and Benny King who I think were Jamaican and ran R&B Records (Rita&Benny, handy that...) and other ska labels.

You can soon tell the difference when you play the bootleg - it was pressed of a VG original so even if it looks mint, it'll play with crackle.

Kind of bizarre one-off situation of King picking up the rights to a Modern record.  Modern had Modern Oldies Series, and Kent repressing their hits throughout the late '60s and early '70s.  I wonder when that King issue was pressed?  (end of the 1970s?)

 

 

Robb the King issue is a UK label legitimate release.

Its has nothing to do with the U.S. label.

Kind of bizarre one-off situation of King picking up the rights to a Modern record.  Modern had Modern Oldies Series, and Kent repressing their hits throughout the late '60s and early '70s.  I wonder when that King issue was pressed?  (end of the 1970s?)

In the late 70s/early 80s I actually found two copies in a shop in Norwalk, along with 6 copies of the Jackie Day Australian EP and some Spanish ZZ Hill and Etta James, obviously the library copies from the legitimate licensees chucked out by Modern at some stage.

Robb the King issue is a UK label legitimate release.

Its has nothing to do with the U.S. label.

Thanks for pointing that out.

Mary Love was booted on an emerald green Modern with the instrumental on the reverse.

Dx

Edited by DaveNPete

Mary Love was booted on an emerald green Modern with the instrumental on the reverse.

Dx

 

Lay This Burden Down was, Bitter Into Sweet wasn't..

Fairplay - should've paid more attention.

 

Jackie Day was the other one on that green Modern label with an inst of that on the other side

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