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If you're here to cause trouble, you can piss off straight away dickhead.    :graywanker:

Mike/Kolla!!... ban him.

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Steady on pal , I was just trying to discover as to whether the forum develops lively debates from a variety of different standpoints and sources or does it follow a similar pattern -

No trouble mate, just asking a question , sorry !!!!!

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bit early for me for this sorta thing

what you trying to say Joe ?

badly worded post ? or out on a wind up

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Hi Mike , not on a wind up mate, just trying to find out whether the regular posters feel there is a good variety of discussion on the forum, didn't want to offend anyone and I apologise to anyone I have

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Steady on pal , I was just trying to discover as to whether the forum develops lively debates from a variety of different standpoints and sources or does it follow a similar pattern -

No trouble mate, just asking a question , sorry !!!!!

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I think it's full of very lively debate but my only complaint is that a lot of people will not, or are afraid to express an opinion different to that of certain posters on here. In fact once the boot has been put in, they all join in like vultures.

If you have a point of view that is different to the majority, you are made to feel like you have no business being on here as you obviously have no interest in 'soul'.

And whats worse is when you get people pm-ing you saying they agree with you but didn't want to reply on list as they didn't want to be seen to be agreeing with you!

SWONS eh

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Hi Mike , not on a wind up mate, just trying to find out whether the regular posters feel there is a good variety of discussion on the forum, didn't want to offend anyone and I apologise to anyone I have

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Hey but is Joe Orton your real name? They don't like people hiding behind

pseudonyms on here...that suggests you're hiding something I'm told...........

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I think it's full of very lively debate but my only complaint is that a lot of people will not, or are afraid to express an opinion different to that of certain posters on here.  In fact once the boot has been put in, they all join in like vultures.

If you have a point of view that is different to the majority, you are made to feel like you have no business being on here as you obviously have no interest in 'soul'.

And whats worse is when you get people pm-ing you saying they agree with you but didn't want to reply on list as they didn't want to be seen to be agreeing with you!

SWONS eh

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Cheers for getting back , feel as though is the case in many forum's but there appears to be a great deal of knowledgable and informed posters on the board - and I tend to agree with you in regards to the autobiography it was a bit morose at times

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Joe - I think you'll find on here that "dictators" or those with one agenda and one agenda only are tolerated to a point and then politely asked to take a hike. If polite hints are ignored then we have no choice but to resort to random violence and torture.

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Hi Mike , not on a wind up mate, just trying to find out whether the regular posters feel there is a good variety of discussion on the forum, didn't want to offend anyone and I apologise to anyone I have

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.....the badly worded post thing then :D

Would say myself that best way for an answer to above question

would be to read the back posts on here .

anyway welcome to site

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Hey but is Joe Orton your real name? They don't like people hiding behind

pseudonyms on here...that suggests you're hiding something I'm told...........

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No Joe Orton isnt my real name , he's my favourite playwright. I can assure you I have no axe to grind I would hazzard a bet that I'm one of the most unpoliticised soul fans around - How is sunny stockport - Have you seen our mutual friend Mr Cato of late -

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Joe - I think you'll find on here that "dictators" or those with one agenda and one agenda only are tolerated to a point and then politely asked to take a hike.  If polite hints are ignored then we have no choice but to resort to random violence and torture.

:D

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Hi Kolla , its The Albert Camus fan in Manchester, have you enjoyed your xmas ?, another all girl bash at the 100 club and your not playing when you gonna get behind the hallowed decks and play me Jean Carter ?

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No Joe Orton isnt my real name , he's my favourite playwright. I can assure you I have no axe to grind I would hazzard a bet that I'm one of the most unpoliticised soul fans around  - How is sunny stockport - Have you seen our mutual friend Mr Cato of late  -

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Saw him at Keele the other week briefly but we had a mad trip up to Flipside a couple of weeks before. Will you be at the Ducie all dayer before New Century next month? Maybe I know you????

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Saw him at Keele the other week briefly but we had a mad trip up to Flipside a couple of weeks before.  Will you be at the Ducie all dayer before New Century next month?  Maybe I know you????

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I almost postive you know me, Im actually djing the all dayer , Im a slight young man with a small beard that makes me look a little French

Hows your vagabond partner in crime Julie ?

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I almost postive you know me, Im actually djing the all dayer , Im a slight young man with a small beard that makes me look a little French

Hows your vagabond partner in crime Julie  ?

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I bloody knew it was you......

See that's what's funny about pseudonyms don't you think?

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I bloody knew it was you......

See that's what's funny about pseudonyms don't you think?

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All the fun of the fair , have you had a good xmas , not too hetic I hop expected to see you at Cato's before the ritz , jst going out for my lucnh but will chat later , see ya soon !

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All the fun of the fair , have you had a good xmas , not too hetic I hop expected to see you at Cato's before the ritz , jst going out for my lucnh but will chat later , see ya soon !

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Ok Joe..I'll Pm you later :D

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Socialism free speech dictators,dont know about all that but i do think that forums like this and soul talk,are definatley a good thing for the scene.I would personaly prefer everybodys identity out in the open,as

a few posters tend to have an awful lot to say on here but tend not to say to much when out and about at venues.Obviously this is just a personal opinion just wonder what you think about that joe,hope you all have agreat new year.

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Socialism free speech dictators,dont know about all that but i do think that forums like this and soul talk,are definatley a good thing for the scene.I would personaly prefer everybodys identity out in the open,as

a few posters tend to have an awful lot to say on here but tend not to say to much when out and about at venues.Obviously this is just a personal opinion just wonder what you think about that joe,hope you all have agreat new year.

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If you aren't prepared to back up what you say while sitting behind a keyboard when you meet someone in the flesh then you shouldn't say it.

Anyone can be a keyboard warrior.

If you ask me to my face I will tell you that:

modern soul is utter shite

john peel was far more important than dave godin

I don't care about royalties, bootlegs, whatever

Wigan was the best venue of all time

Stop The Clock and Don't Be Afraid Of The Dark are both brilliant

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Socialism free speech dictators,dont know about all that but i do think that forums like this and soul talk,are definatley a good thing for the scene.I would personaly prefer everybodys identity out in the open,as

a few posters tend to have an awful lot to say on here but tend not to say to much when out and about at venues.Obviously this is just a personal opinion just wonder what you think about that joe,hope you all have agreat new year.

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No your'e tight the benefits of this forum are all to see, as I mentioned earlier there seem to be a vast number of informative and rounded people , on the subject of airing their grievances whilst at a nighter Im sure we wouldnt want to see the situation where there are stand-offs and bitterness at nighters - Stay lucky enjoy the new year

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If you aren't prepared to back up what you say while sitting behind a keyboard when you meet someone in the flesh then you shouldn't say it.

Anyone can be a keyboard warrior.

If you ask me to my face I will tell you that:

modern soul is utter shite

john peel was far more important than dave godin

I don't care about royalties, bootlegs, whatever

Wigan was the best venue of all time

Stop The Clock and Don't Be Afraid Of The Dark are both brilliant

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Now just hang on a minute Pete.

I know you've been around a long time

and have a huge knowledge

and are a regular on these forums

but sometimes somedbody has to stand up

and disagree with you.

Stop the clock - it's bollocks. :D

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I bloody knew it was you...... See that's what's funny about pseudonyms don't you think?
You tell him, Reg ! In saying that though - I thought you were a bloke for months :D

another all girl bash at the 100 club and your not playing when you gonna get behind the hallowed decks and play me Jean Carter ?
Ah-ha... the little French one! Absolutement! the illegitimate son of Camus' Meursault and errr... Shaggy :wicked:

Please please don't mention Dj-ing at the 100 Club... hell will freeze over before I'd ever believe owning a record collection gives me the right to DJ. Laters alligator and hopefully see ya at the 100 next month.

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Pete,

Totally agree with your sentiments ... but as it's different strokes for different folks, I have to disagree with some of your opinions... and I'll always tell ya to your face that:

Y2K soul is utter shite

john peel was no more important than dave godin

I do care about royalties, bootlegs, whatever

Any venue you attended in your teens was the best venue of all time

The Boy with the Thorn in his Side and This Charming Man are both brilliant :shades:

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You tell him, Reg !  In saying that though - I thought you were a bloke for months  :D

Ah-ha... the little French one!  Absolutement!  the illegitimate son of Camus' Meursault and errr... Shaggy  :wicked:  

Please please don't mention Dj-ing at the 100 Club... hell will freeze over before I'd ever believe owning a record collection gives me the right to DJ.

Laters alligator and hopefully see ya at the 100 next month. 

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Pete,

Totally agree with your sentiments ... but as it's different strokes for different folks, I have to disagree with some of your opinions... and I'll always tell ya to your face that:

Y2K soul is utter shite

john peel was no more important than dave godin

I do care about royalties, bootlegs, whatever

Any venue you attended in your teens was the best venue of all time

The Boy with the Thorn in his Side and This Charming Man are both brilliant  biggrin.gif

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They're starting on you again PeteS. Stand your ground man. :shades:ph34r.gif:lol:

And Joe, Socialism, free speech, dictators ? Its called SOUL source mate. And I notice you still have not given us your real name. Any reason why ?

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They're starting on you again PeteS. Stand your ground man.  :shades:   :D   :wicked:

And Joe, Socialism, free speech, dictators ? Its called SOUL source mate. And I notice you still have not given us your real name. Any reason why ?

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My real name is Richard, Im the smallest little blip on the soul landscape , I just colect rare soul and doo wop and have no affiliations with any soul cartels.

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My real name is Richard, Im the smallest little blip on the soul landscape , I just collect rare soul and doo wop and  have no affiliations with any soul cartels.

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I'll vouch for him! A rarity on this scene - a welsh pacifist with some great underplayed / never heard out records in his collection.

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Y2K soul is utter shite - agreed

john peel was no more important than dave godin - not in Little Soul World maybe,  in the Real World, yes.

I do care about royalties, bootlegs, whatever - Fine then  :wicked:

Any venue you attended in your teens was the best venue of all time - Not true, I went to some fucking terrible venues as a teenager, I was going by the one where the music was best and has never been bettered

The Boy with the Thorn in his Side and This Charming Man are both brilliant - certainly not going to argue with that! :shades:

:D

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Pete S,

Pete how would you define Modern Soul?, is it the year of release, the style or did soul music finish on the stroke of midnite 1970.

Thats not a dig, i`m interested to understand.

Wigan for me was part of my youth & early 20`s & i agree it is the best club ive attended but i have to agree with Kolla your first love is always the most special but i also belive in moving forward.

John Peel & Dave Godin were both groundbreakers in there respective forms of music, but why do you have to choose one over the other.

Again like Kolla i too care about royalties, bootlegs, whatever.

The Smiths....... great band

Garv.

Having just reread my reply it looks like i could be trying to court favour with Kolla, NO i`m not, i dont know her but i do give her money on a regular basis.

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My real name is Richard, Im the smallest little blip on the soul landscape , I just colect rare soul and doo wop and  have no affiliations with any soul cartels.

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But Joe, you do also have a reputation as a little heart breaker :wicked: ...kissing at a soul doo, what ever next! :D

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Pete S,

Pete how would you define Modern Soul?, is it the year of release, the style or did soul music finish on the stroke of midnite 1970.

Thats not a dig, i`m interested to understand.

Dunno, it's in the ear of the beholder, I like my Northern to be the traditional Motown styled 60's stuff. I wouldn't say anything past 1970. 1975 maybe. Anything with electronic percussion surely can't be soul?

John Peel & Dave Godin were both groundbreakers in there respective forms of music, but why do you have to choose one over the other.

Nobody has to choose mate, I just think the reaction to the death of Dave Godin was so over the top, the site was closed for a day in tribute to Dave Godin, not for Peel.

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Having just reread my reply it looks like i could be trying to court favour with Kolla, NO i`m not, i dont know her but i do give her money on a regular basis.

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Maybe I should have modern soul is shite instead of no requests on my t-shirt for the 100 club LOL :D

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I'll vouch for him! A rarity on this scene - a welsh pacifist with some great underplayed / never heard out records in his collection.

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must be great if he is welsh :D

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I can confirm to knowing little Joe Orton and he is a great guy. Had the pleasure of his company on several occasions. A very gentle young man who always has a kind word.

I think the problem here Joe is that you have joined at a time when we have a had a few idiots who have been quite offensive to certain individuals. I know you mean no harm at all but I think a few of us are on our guard to spot and identify potetial trouble-causers.

I am sure you will enjoy it on here and we all welcome your input mate.

Shane

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I can confirm to knowing little Joe Orton and he is a great guy. Had the pleasure of his company on several occasions. A very gentle young man who always has a kind word.

I think the problem here Joe is that you have joined at a time when we have a had a few idiots who have been quite offensive to certain individuals. I know you mean no harm at all but I think a few of us are on our guard to spot and identify potetial trouble-causers.

I am sure you will enjoy it on here and we all welcome your input mate.

Shane

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Thanks mate, hows the arm coming along, did you make it to that shindig in Sheffield last night ?

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Yes I made it along to Samanthas last night. a few pints of guinness works wonders. Feel rough today though!

Got to recover for Sheridans tomorrow!

Shane

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Yes I made it along to Samanthas last night. a few pints of guinness works wonders. Feel rough today though! 

Got to recover for Sheridans tomorrow!

Shane

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You going then are you, should be good, going to Leeds to meet up with friends then travelling to Sheridans later - Is the Brettmeister General making an appearance ?

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I can also vouch for Joe (Richard)'s credibility, though I wish he'd use the name I christened him with. I don't like favouritism but I do have a soft spot for Richard and forgive him all the pain of child-birth.

He also plays a blinding set as anyone who saw him double deck with Matt Bolton at Cleethorpes this year will agree. Shame he didn't agree to wear the kitten vest and pink visor that me and his father bought for him though....

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I know Joe Orton too, the man has foul drinking habits, is regulary in trouble with shady Law enforcement agencies and has been known to use explosives for ungodly means..............

ps....awfully decent taste in music too whistling.gif

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I must be a real oddity on the soul scene, I went to Wigan, and enjoyed it, I also like Modern soul......70's, Crossover, R&B, motown.

Wigan for me represents a time now long gone, and yes i've got good memories, however that was then, it's now 2005 ( well nearly ), and hopefully the best record i've ever heard, is one i've not yet heard.

Oddly enough I do agree with Pete s, there is a tendancy to gang up on people when they post something that disagree's with what everyone else feels, this is open debate, let's not become intolerant of other people's view points......... that's my resolution for 2005.

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Oddly enough I do agree with Pete s, there is a tendancy to gang up on people when they post something that disagree's with what everyone else feels,  this is open debate, let's not become intolerant of other people's view points......... that's my resolution for 2005.

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Absolutely true, but more disturbing is the fact that anyone of the opposite viewpoint is either shouted down or made to feel that they cannot post because of the verbal bashing they will get. It's only a bloody message board for goodness sake, you should be able to say whatever you want without worrying about what anyone else thinks.

John, you say in another thread you enjoy crossover, I immediately put up a post saying I think it's utter rubbish, but SO WHAT, that's what a forum is.

However I await incoming telling me I am a cloth eared twat. whistling.gif

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Absolutely true, but more disturbing is the fact that anyone of the opposite viewpoint is either shouted down or made to feel that they cannot post because of the verbal bashing they will get.  It's only a bloody message board for goodness sake, you should be able to say whatever you want without worrying about what anyone else thinks.

John, you say in another thread you enjoy crossover, I immediately put up a post saying I think it's utter rubbish, but SO WHAT, that's what a forum is.

However I await incoming telling me I am a cloth eared twat. whistling.gif

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No Pete, I realise me and you have different tastes in soul music, I'm not going to slag you of for having your opinion.

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I forgot to add: he's a genius and a poet

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my mother (l hurley) is the embodiment of an empowered women standing proud and upright as she rains unmerciful vengance on the world below

She's alreadyconquered the North Kent marshes and now she's working on Deptford -

She also makes exceedingly good cakes and makes eyes at Billy Childish while waiting at Belsize park !!!!!!!!!

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