I think that the Demo is far rarer.

You'd think. The only 2 on Popsike are demos? And the only copy shown as sold on raresoul45s is a demo. They are both rare for sure.

Edited June 15, 2024Jun 15 by Angus Westfields
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6 hours ago, Dudley Sutton said:

I think that the Demo is far rarer.

 

13 minutes ago, Angus Westfields said:

You'd think. The only 2 on Popsike are demos? And the only copy shown as sold on raresoul45s is a demo. They are both rare for sure. I know of one copy, not the demo, bought privately last year for £1200 in nm condition. Any body got any other info? Cheers

 

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29 minutes ago, Angus Westfields said:

My apologies. Please delete as you feel appropriate. I tried but it wasn't possible. Angus

the demo discussion is split now and in right place so no worries

thumbs up

Personally I Don’t think there is anything in it,I know of equal amounts of demos and issues,I’ve had an issue myself,but the copy’s I refer to stay in collections,so popsike and the like Don’t paint a complete picture.

a far superior version to she is my beauty queen,(forgot the singer😂)

 

Actually which version came first?

6 hours ago, Dobber said:

 

 

Actually which version came first?

Joe Matthews came out in late 1965/ early '66 , the Tempos is from 1968 or 1969.

7 minutes ago, The Yank said:

Joe Matthews came out in late 1965/ early '66 , the Tempos is from 1968 or 1969.

That makes the tempos a cover version both musically and lyrically! 

that’s ruined it for me😂
 

 

On 15/06/2024 at 11:54, Dobber said:

Personally I Don’t think there is anything in it,I know of equal amounts of demos and issues,I’ve had an issue myself,but the copy’s I refer to stay in collections,so popsike and the like Don’t paint a complete picture.

a far superior version to she is my beauty queen,(forgot the singer😂)

 

Actually which version came first?

FWIW I believe that most stocker black copies of the Tempos came out from one or more NOS stash finds while the promos dripped one by one from past auctions and sales. Likely both pressings are evenly rare and did poorly publicly.

As for preference mine still goes for Joe Matthews. More typical of mid sixties 'clean' cut Detroit soul which I stil love. While the Tempos full on reverb both on the backing track and vocals makes it sound 'bad' to my ears. Shame.

Edited June 16, 2024Jun 16 by Tlscapital

On 15/06/2024 at 01:45, Angus Westfields said:

You'd think. The only 2 on Popsike are demos? And the only copy shown as sold on raresoul45s is a demo. They are both rare for sure.

if you put tempos diamond jim in popsike 5 demos to zero black issues

i have seen a few issues tho and even sold a minter last year for £1100

just have a vg/vg+  demo on the shelves that i paid £100 for way back 

Edited June 16, 2024Jun 16 by Dave Pinch

Late eighties buying records from a local collector came across two issue copies of Tempos (Chico always insisted it was three) we paid £10 each. Many years later a Tempos issue was found/sold in a local second hand shop. It makes it difficult to quantify true rarity and value when these things happen when compared to cheaper records that are hardly ever encountered. Sold my Tempos, still have Joe Matthews - says it all.

10 minutes ago, Hip Priest said:

Late eighties buying records from a local collector came across two issue copies of Tempos (Chico always insisted it was three) we paid £10 each. Many years later a Tempos issue was found/sold in a local second hand shop. It makes it difficult to quantify true rarity and value when these things happen when compared to cheaper records that are hardly ever encountered. Sold my Tempos, still have Joe Matthews - says it all.

i kept the tempos and sold the joe matthews.. didnt get on with his Ya Ya or La La too much.. prefer the vocal on the tempo`s if i`m honest

my feelings to Tempos is a far more gutsy soulful version. but horses for courses eh?