Could anyone tell me if the Velvets - Lovin' on Borrowed Time on Number One has ever been counterfeited.

I don't think it has ever been booted as a Northern side, but want to check in case it has ever been booted for any other scene.

thanks

Alan

Could anyone tell me if the Velvets - Lovin' on Borrowed Time on Number One has ever been counterfeited.

I don't think it has ever been booted as a Northern side, but want to check in case it has ever been booted for any other scene.

thanks

Alan

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no it hasnt

one 45 i foolishly let go last year

need to get a copy back

gr8 tune

Could anyone tell me if the Velvets - Lovin' on Borrowed Time on Number One has ever been counterfeited.

I don't think it has ever been booted as a Northern side, but want to check in case it has ever been booted for any other scene.

thanks

Alan

No, it is the 2nd issue of Phil Orsi on Wise World

No, it is the 2nd issue of Phil Orsi on Wise World

Thanks, hadn't realised that had been done. How do you tell the Phil Orsi from the 2nd issue?

Alan

Thanks, hadn't realised that had been done. How do you tell the Phil Orsi from the 2nd issue?

Alan

Not sure if you understood Tony's cryptic reply. It got released around same time twice. As Phil Orsi on Wise World and Velvets on Number One. Both 60's and personally I have no idea which was first. Boba may know.

ROD

i thought the velvets was the first release and phil's dreadful one second..???

another mistake 60;s sale at thorne along with lester tipton etc..........

i thought the velvets was the first release and phil's dreadful one second..???

another mistake 60;s sale at thorne along with lester tipton etc..........

They're exactly the same from what I remember and I've had both. Just different details but same 45.

ROD

rod didnt phil orsi write it ...its quite some time since i had the record i thought it was a different version to the velvets....? could be wrong

could some nice chap post both mp3 clips maybe for comparison i remember mr brown jumping for joy when i sold it.

rod didnt phil orsi write it ...its quite some time since i had the record i thought it was a different version to the velvets....? could be wrong

could some nice chap post both mp3 clips maybe for comparison i remember mr brown jumping for joy when i sold it.

It's a long time for me too but I think he did as he wrote quite a few things in his time.

A reasonably odd story about the Velvets 45 and one other. I got into a guy's basement on my first trip to Chicago in '79 to find that Anderson had just been there.

The guy had his 45s well arranged and there was a divider with "Velvets" written on it but nothing in the gap. But in the next division [forget what] there was one misfiled Velvets. Then I found elsewhere a couple of James Fountain's [not the big deal it is today but still OK]. So I thought to myself Mr. Anderson you're not the big 45 finder you thought you were. I've come after you and found these 45s you shoulda taken. Pretty pleased with myself.

12 years later I hook up with same guy and go down the basement. Lots of new discoveries since 79 and of course change in style and tempo so gotta be worth a visit.

Nothing great but a lot of £5-10 45s which back in '79 were nowt and the odd "newie" like "Thinkin'about you" but then misfiled I found another copy of James Fountain that I'd missed first time around.

ROD

rod didnt phil orsi write it ...its quite some time since i had the record i thought it was a different version to the velvets....? could be wrong

could some nice chap post both mp3 clips maybe for comparison i remember mr brown jumping for joy when i sold it.

I'm pretty sure it's phil orsi singing lead on the velvets 45. I don't have the wise world 45 so i can't compare and I don't know which one came first. The flip "love is slipping away" has the same backing track as Billy McGregor "mr shy". The same recording got released as Phil Orsi on Sonic. There is an alternate version (with still Phil singing lead) as happiness-is on Banner. I think that alternate version also got released on blue soul. I think there's one more label too that I can't remember... confusing...

Here's a scan of mine,song was written by Phil Orsi but the velvet's version,spun by Pat Brady was the favourite for the Casino's dancers (having better harmonies).

No I would not like to sell it!

Does not get enough spins imho.

The Velvets and the Phil Orsi are the same track , just put out under two different names

Last time I listened to the Wise World I thought that they were similar and not totally the same, a difference in the mix.

Edited February 18, 200817 yr by Prophonics 2029

Last time I listened to the Wise World I thought that they were similar and not totally the same, a difference in the mix.

Velvets is more of a group singing as one, while Phil Orsi has a distinctive lead voice over the backing vocals. Phil Orsi version is also 'brighter' sounding while the Velvets is more muted. Might just be different mixes.

Wise World was 1960ts whereas the Number One is later if not 1970 this could also be counted into the differences in sound.

Edited February 18, 200817 yr by Prophonics 2029