Hi Guys

Two listings below one from Dave Rimmers Site and the other from Indiana 45's. Which is correct ?

The numbering on the two additions, from Indiana 45's is different. Anyone know the whole story.

Dave's listing

Steeltown

101 - The Mellotones - The Drummer / Lonely Man - 1967

105 - Larry Tamblin - This Is The Night / ? - 1967

116 - Lou Washington & The Professionals - Since I've Fallen In Love / Stay Of Execution - 1967

195 - Lou D Washington - Smokey / The Way A Romance Should Be - 1967

207 - Ma Ma's Bootleg Blues Band - Cookin' Up (Soul Stew) / Yummy Yummy - 1967

670 - Maxine Crayton - Don't Take Your Love / You Better Stop - 1967

671 - The Drifters - Peace Of Mind / The Struggler - 1967

681 - The Jackson Five - Big Boy / You've Changed - 1968

682 - The Jackson Five - Jam Session / We Don't Have To Be Over 21 (To Fall In Love) - 1968

683 - ?

684 - The Jackson Five - You Don't Have To Be 21 / Some Girls Want Me For A Lover - 1968

685 - ?

686 - Richard Brown - Sweet And Kind / Don't Listen To The Grapevine - 1968

687 - Robert Lee & The Exquisites - Tears Are Falling / Lisa - 1968

688 - The Ripples And Waves Plus Michael - Let Me Carry Your School Books / I Never Had A Girl - 1968

689 - Gordon Keith - I'll Try To Please You / Don't Take My Kindness For Weakness - 1968

689 - Gordon Keith - I'll Try To Please You / I'll Try To Please You (Instrumental) - 1968

Indiana 45's also credit

2467-Del Chontays-Baby I need you/The Hustle

6710-Ben Brown-Two faces of love/Incognito

Edited June 10, 200817 yr by Dave Thorley

The Ben Brown is Indiana, he was one of the owners of the label. The del chontays is a PA steeltown and is not indiana. I have at least one other gordon keith 45 on the label. I have never seen that 3rd jackson 5, only seen it on musicor, I would be surprised if it was on steeltown. I can check the correct b-side of that gordon keith when I get home.

Hi Guys

Two listings below one from Dave Rimmers Site and the other from Indiana 45's. Which is correct ?

The numbering on the two additions, from Indiana 45's is different. Anyone know the whole story.

Dave's listing

Steeltown

101 - The Mellotones - The Drummer / Lonely Man - 1967

105 - Larry Tamblin - This Is The Night / ? - 1967

116 - Lou Washington & The Professionals - Since I've Fallen In Love / Stay Of Execution - 1967

195 - Lou D Washington - Smokey / The Way A Romance Should Be - 1967

207 - Ma Ma's Bootleg Blues Band - Cookin' Up (Soul Stew) / Yummy Yummy - 1967

670 - Maxine Crayton - Don't Take Your Love / You Better Stop - 1967

671 - The Drifters - Peace Of Mind / The Struggler - 1967

681 - The Jackson Five - Big Boy / You've Changed - 1968

682 - The Jackson Five - Jam Session / We Don't Have To Be Over 21 (To Fall In Love) - 1968

683 - ?

684 - The Jackson Five - You Don't Have To Be 21 / Some Girls Want Me For A Lover - 1968

685 - ?

686 - Richard Brown - Sweet And Kind / Don't Listen To The Grapevine - 1968

687 - Robert Lee & The Exquisites - Tears Are Falling / Lisa - 1968

688 - The Ripples And Waves Plus Michael - Let Me Carry Your School Books / I Never Had A Girl - 1968

689 - Gordon Keith - I'll Try To Please You / Don't Take My Kindness For Weakness - 1968

689 - Gordon Keith - I'll Try To Please You / I'll Try To Please You (Instrumental) - 1968

Indiana 45's also credit

2467-Del Chontays-Baby I need you/The Hustle

6710-Ben Brown-Two faces of love/Incognito

there wasa Ben Brown on eBay yesterday - $100 and G condition only....

The Ben Brown is Indiana, he was one of the owners of the label. The del chontays is a PA steeltown and is not indiana. I have at least one other gordon keith 45 on the label. I have never seen that 3rd jackson 5, only seen it on musicor, I would be surprised if it was on steeltown. I can check the correct b-side of that gordon keith when I get home.

The first and third jackson 5's are on my site for sale £30 each

There's a Valiants listed too HERE

I used to have the Jam session 45 on steeltown by the Jackson five. Bought it from Adey Pierce probably 15 years ago

Sold it long ago tho

Regards

Ian

Don't forget Gordon Keith "Tell the story/Don't take kindness for a weakness" GK1981

Des Parker

Kenneth & Delroy is also great tune not on the above listing, also what's the numbering on the "Calumet" & "Ben Mo Keith" 45's, does this link in??

There's a Valiants listed too HERE

I've never seen that, it would be cool to know if it existed. The Valiants on Destination is a Gary group, it included Delroy Bridgeman, who was previously in the Senators on Abner, the Mellotones on Steeltown, Kenneth and Delroy on Steeltown, and the World Column on Tower / Atco.

There's also the nice funky crossover tune backed with a sweet soul tune by Errol Gaye and the Imaginations.

Steeltown Cleveland 92539/40 Errol Gaye & the Imaginations "Love And Affection/ You Don't Want My Love".

Jordi

There's also the nice funky crossover tune backed with a sweet soul tune by Errol Gaye and the Imaginations.

Steeltown Cleveland 92539/40 Errol Gaye & the Imaginations "Love And Affection/ You Don't Want My Love".

Jordi

that's not the same steeltown label Dave was asking about, it is cleveland as you note and there's two records on that label. there were a bunch of steeltown labels.

I've never seen that, it would be cool to know if it existed. The Valiants on Destination is a Gary group, it included Delroy Bridgeman, who was previously in the Senators on Abner, the Mellotones on Steeltown, Kenneth and Delroy on Steeltown, and the World Column on Tower / Atco.

Bob

Kenneth and Delroy on Steeltown

This certainly exists cause I just sold a copy to Mick H. obviously too cheap!! It is a great record!!

In fact my data says I've had 2 different label designs both RED, one with a release #, one without.

KENNETH and DELROY with BEN BROWN & the MOJO SUPREME ENSEMBLE

LET ME HOLD YOU CLOSE LET ME HOLD YOU CLOSE part 2 STEELTOWN no #

LET ME HOLD YOU CLOSE LET ME HOLD YOU CLOSE part 2 STEELTOWN 67

I had this and sold it on cheap, what do you rate it at JM , is it rare???

Des Parker

Bob

Kenneth and Delroy on Steeltown

This certainly exists cause I just sold a copy to Mick H. obviously too cheap!! It is a great record!!

In fact my data says I've had 2 different label designs both RED, one with a release #, one without.

KENNETH and DELROY with BEN BROWN & the MOJO SUPREME ENSEMBLE

LET ME HOLD YOU CLOSE LET ME HOLD YOU CLOSE part 2 STEELTOWN no #

LET ME HOLD YOU CLOSE LET ME HOLD YOU CLOSE part 2 STEELTOWN 67

THe kenneth and delroy is not that hard, it also got mispressed as kenneth and delory (ro's reversed). Maybe that was also in the variation you were talking about. I was talking about the valiants 45, I don't know if that exists on steeltown.

I had this and sold it on cheap, what do you rate it at JM , is it rare???

Des Parker

I had it too...and it was gathering dust for more then a year in my sales box. Can remember talikng with Flynny aout it when I had most of the labels output. sold the whole label and this particualr item quite cheap finally. Nice little number as far as I remember but nth. really special.

Marc

Yeah, there are at least a few different Steeltown labels, so it does get confusing. Jason from Indiana45s was never sure about that Del Chontays Steeltown being the Gary, IN Steeltown. Boba it sounds like you are certain that Del Chontays is NOT the Gary, IN Steeltown. I'll make sure and tell Jason.

And yes as Boba said, the Ben Brown is definitely the Gary, IN Steeltown. Ben Brown co-founded the label. And the copy that's up on ebay literally came out of the rubble of his long abandoned record store in Gary.

The Kenneth & Delroy *is* pretty common.

CheltSoulNights: Did you say you have a copy of:

684 - The Jackson Five - You Don't Have To Be 21 / Some Girls Want Me For A Lover - 1968

for sale? If so, where is your site, I would like to purcahse this.

Also, does anybody here have a copy of the Mellotones on Steeltown for sale? Boba, you got this?

Scott

Yeah, there are at least a few different Steeltown labels, so it does get confusing. Jason from Indiana45s was never sure about that Del Chontays Steeltown being the Gary, IN Steeltown. Boba it sounds like you are certain that Del Chontays is NOT the Gary, IN Steeltown. I'll make sure and tell Jason.

And yes as Boba said, the Ben Brown is definitely the Gary, IN Steeltown. Ben Brown co-founded the label. And the copy that's up on ebay literally came out of the rubble of his long abandoned record store in Gary.

The Kenneth & Delroy *is* pretty common.

CheltSoulNights: Did you say you have a copy of:

684 - The Jackson Five - You Don't Have To Be 21 / Some Girls Want Me For A Lover - 1968

for sale? If so, where is your site, I would like to purcahse this.

Also, does anybody here have a copy of the Mellotones on Steeltown for sale? Boba, you got this?

Scott

I have the mellotones but not for sale. I can post a sound clip here if you want. "Lonely man" was done by 3 gary groups: the versatiles on staff (which included Mel Britt), the Mellotones, and the Fabulous Traits (no connection to the Chicago traits). The del chontays was on Dennis Brennan's harrisburg CD, he can confirm for you that it's a PA steeltown (I think the same label that had the cordells).

I've heard the Mellotones on Jason's site. Lonely Man sounds like the exact same backing track as the Versatiles.

And dude, you answered another question of mine. I keep talking to different people who have found the Mel Britt record in Gary and was beginning to think that Mel Britt was a Gary dude. I guess that is confirmed!

Scott

I have the mellotones but not for sale. I can post a sound clip here if you want. "Lonely man" was done by 3 gary groups: the versatiles on staff (which included Mel Britt), the Mellotones, and the Fabulous Traits (no connection to the Chicago traits). The del chontays was on Dennis Brennan's harrisburg CD, he can confirm for you that it's a PA steeltown (I think the same label that had the cordells).

I've heard the Mellotones on Jason's site. Lonely Man sounds like the exact same backing track as the Versatiles.

And dude, you answered another question of mine. I keep talking to different people who have found the Mel Britt record in Gary and was beginning to think that Mel Britt was a Gary dude. I guess that is confirmed!

Scott

Lonely man isn't the exactly the same backing track I don't think, I would have to dig them out to check. Mel Britt wasn't exactly Gary, I think he was originally from Anderson, IN, and also lived in East Chicago and surrounding areas. I think the Versatiles were based in East Chicago. He lives in Michigan City now. FIPi was also south chicago and had Gary connections, Gorden Keith told me he worked for the label for a while.

There's also the nice funky crossover tune backed with a sweet soul tune by Errol Gaye and the Imaginations.

Steeltown Cleveland 92539/40 Errol Gaye & the Imaginations "Love And Affection/ You Don't Want My Love".

Jordi

The Steeltown with Errol Gay and the Imaginations, plus The Entertains on is from Pittsburgh. This label was owed by the same guy that was also half owner of Worlds records in New york with Johnny Worlds. Both are much underated modern soul dancers you can pick up for about £15

Edited June 11, 200817 yr by Dave Thorley

The Steeltown with Errol Gay and the Imaginations, plus The Entertains on is from Pittsburgh. This label was owed by the same guy that was also half owner of Worlds records in New york with Johnny Worlds. Both are much underated modern soul dancers you can pick up for about £15

Dante's webpage says cleveland:

https://www.ohiosoulrecordings.com/s.htm

I see it says "jeree" even on his label scan so maybe he's wrong, I will ask him what he knows about that. Thanks.

Dante's webpage says cleveland:

https://www.ohiosoulrecordings.com/s.htm

I see it says "jeree" even on his label scan so maybe he's wrong, I will ask him what he knows about that. Thanks.

I met the late owners wife and it was definatly a Phittsburgh label.

Dave

Yeah, there are at least a few different Steeltown labels, so it does get confusing. Jason from Indiana45s was never sure about that Del Chontays Steeltown being the Gary, IN Steeltown. Boba it sounds like you are certain that Del Chontays is NOT the Gary, IN Steeltown. I'll make sure and tell Jason.

And yes as Boba said, the Ben Brown is definitely the Gary, IN Steeltown. Ben Brown co-founded the label. And the copy that's up on ebay literally came out of the rubble of his long abandoned record store in Gary.

The Kenneth & Delroy *is* pretty common.

CheltSoulNights: Did you say you have a copy of:

684 - The Jackson Five - You Don't Have To Be 21 / Some Girls Want Me For A Lover - 1968

for sale? If so, where is your site, I would like to purcahse this.

Also, does anybody here have a copy of the Mellotones on Steeltown for sale? Boba, you got this?

Scott

Sorry just checked its on the earlier release with jam session

I had it too...and it was gathering dust for more then a year in my sales box. Can remember talikng with Flynny aout it when I had most of the labels output. sold the whole label and this particualr item quite cheap finally. Nice little number as far as I remember but nth. really special.

Marc

I must correct myself....I did not sell it (luckily) and after finding it in my sales box I had a nother listen to it...especially the flipside (part 2 of said track ) is not bad with a fantatsic sax work which sounds as if Mike Terry was on a short visit in Indiana and tried to record his own versioon of "Midnight Brew"

Hi Guys

Two listings below one from Dave Rimmers Site and the other from Indiana 45's. Which is correct ?

The numbering on the two additions, from Indiana 45's is different. Anyone know the whole story.

Dave's listing

Steeltown

101 - The Mellotones - The Drummer / Lonely Man - 1967

105 - Larry Tamblin - This Is The Night / ? - 1967

116 - Lou Washington & The Professionals - Since I've Fallen In Love / Stay Of Execution - 1967

195 - Lou D Washington - Smokey / The Way A Romance Should Be - 1967

207 - Ma Ma's Bootleg Blues Band - Cookin' Up (Soul Stew) / Yummy Yummy - 1967

670 - Maxine Crayton - Don't Take Your Love / You Better Stop - 1967

671 - The Drifters - Peace Of Mind / The Struggler - 1967

681 - The Jackson Five - Big Boy / You've Changed - 1968

682 - The Jackson Five - Jam Session / We Don't Have To Be Over 21 (To Fall In Love) - 1968

683 - ?

684 - The Jackson Five - You Don't Have To Be 21 / Some Girls Want Me For A Lover - 1968

685 - ?

686 - Richard Brown - Sweet And Kind / Don't Listen To The Grapevine - 1968

687 - Robert Lee & The Exquisites - Tears Are Falling / Lisa - 1968

688 - The Ripples And Waves Plus Michael - Let Me Carry Your School Books / I Never Had A Girl - 1968

689 - Gordon Keith - I'll Try To Please You / Don't Take My Kindness For Weakness - 1968

689 - Gordon Keith - I'll Try To Please You / I'll Try To Please You (Instrumental) - 1968

Indiana 45's also credit

2467-Del Chontays-Baby I need you/The Hustle

6710-Ben Brown-Two faces of love/Incognito

I pulled out my gordon keith records.

I have Steeltown 688 - Gordon Keith - I'll try to please you / inst.

I also have Steeltown GK1981 - Tell the story / Don't take my kindness for weakness

The second title is from 1981, I doubt it was released as the flip of an early 70s record.