vaultofsouler Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 In light of the Gene Toones thing on eBay I got sent this last night and thought it needed to be asked if legit.... https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...item=4718416997 Thought I recognised the whole lay out of the item and checked in the ended items of my watch box in eBay.... is exactly same layout, scan and desciption as this one recently sold.... https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...item=4717140302 Very strange.... so someone please tell me this is a legit re-sell by seller under different name and that UK sellers aren't now trying it on themselves.... Info appreciated.... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Supercorsa Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 Something a bit odd going on? Definately same picture & info, I would say it's either of the following. 1. Someone happens to have an original (& seen how much it's gone for) and rather than scan it have just copied all the info. 2. Someone is hoping to make a lot of money out of someone for something that's going to get lost in the post. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ged Parker Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 I spotted this too. This seller does have some neg feedback for items not arriving and ignoring emails. I've dropped him a line and the current high bidder I'll let you know if I get a reply. Does look very iffy tho. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
MarkWhiteley Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 (edited) Seems like a blatantly obvious scam to me chaps Edited April 15, 2005 by billytheboot Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 (edited) Seems like a blatantly obvious scam to me chaps link bugger, too late Edited April 15, 2005 by BLADEFORLIFE Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
vaultofsouler Posted April 15, 2005 Author Share Posted April 15, 2005 I spotted this too. This seller does have some neg feedback for items not arriving and ignoring emails. I've dropped him a line and the current high bidder I'll let you know if I get a reply. Does look very iffy tho. link Yeh.... let us know Ged .... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
MarkWhiteley Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 I've just emailed high bidder with a link to the item listed last week and also to this page. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
MarkWhiteley Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 bugger, too late link NOT TO SELF: must type slower Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
FrankM Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 In light of the Gene Toones thing on eBay I got sent this last night and thought it Thought I recognised the whole lay out of the item and checked in the ended items of my watch box in eBay.... is exactly same layout, scan and desciption as this one recently sold.... https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...item=4717140302 Very strange.... so someone please tell me this is a legit re-sell by seller under different name and that UK sellers aren't now trying it on themselves.... Info appreciated.... link The person who bought the above had previously paid about £15 to £20 for re issues and about £30 each for some cheapo originals and then bids £2000 and ups it by another few hundred to win the thing. Interesting to say the least. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulie78 Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 In light of the Gene Toones thing on eBay I got sent this last night and thought it needed to be asked if legit.... https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...item=4718416997 Thought I recognised the whole lay out of the item and checked in the ended items of my watch box in eBay.... is exactly same layout, scan and desciption as this one recently sold.... https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...item=4717140302 Very strange.... so someone please tell me this is a legit re-sell by seller under different name and that UK sellers aren't now trying it on themselves.... Info appreciated.... link I see another case coming on for the soul-source high biding police We'll get all of those boot-sellers and non-sellers. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 I see another case coming on for the soul-source high biding police We'll get all of those boot-sellers and non-sellers. link Is it the version without the "Soul Source church choir" backing? We should be told... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
MarkWhiteley Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 perhaps I should email him and ask, I'll definately bid if it is Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Keithw Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 perhaps I should email him and ask, I'll definately bid if it is link THE lad who was selling it as Groovesville is from macclesfield---lee edwards nicknamed dobber frield of Glen Hunter/Jim Smirk etc dont know if it was real Keith williams Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
vaultofsouler Posted April 15, 2005 Author Share Posted April 15, 2005 THE lad who was selling it as Groovesville is from macclesfield---lee edwards nicknamed dobber frield of Glen Hunter/Jim Smirk etc dont know if it was real Keith williams link Wasn't really querying that one Keith.... was the second one now up for sale using "exactly" the same eBay page layout, i.e. piccy, description, etc., that doesn't "feel" right.... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 Current seller takes paypal, would that not buy the winner protection? Would appear an elaborate faux price fixing scheme with the previous auction as this seller's two recent negatives were from cheap items. But then again could be the perfect opportunity to 'cash in' on previously immaculate feedback. This one is tricky a worthy challenge to SS choir? I missed bidding the Gene Toones, wouldn't mind joining this one if it gets figured out. Tenyu Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 Current seller takes paypal, would that not buy the winner protection? Would appear an elaborate faux price fixing scheme with the previous auction as this seller's two recent negatives were from cheap items. But then again could be the perfect opportunity to 'cash in' on previously immaculate feedback. This one is tricky a worthy challenge to SS choir? I missed bidding the Gene Toones, wouldn't mind joining this one if it gets figured out. Tenyu link Hypothetical question: Suppose you were the original buyer and the item arrived cracked... and you'd only paid for standard insuance (£28 or howver much it is...) You then decide to re-sell item as perfect, get someone you know to send the price through the roof, then insure it to the hilt.... When it arrives at the other end, you have a claim against the Post Office insurance as it was 'perfect' when it went out.... Won't be this first time this trick has been pulled, or the last to be honest..... WOOF! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Marc Forrest Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 THE lad who was selling it as Groovesville is from macclesfield---lee edwards nicknamed dobber frield of Glen Hunter/Jim Smirk etc dont know if it was real Keith williams link And the copy he was selling was legit as it was my old one that he purchased during a heavy trade...so I am now also wondering if the new seller was and is in fact the buyer of my old copy...only Lee can tell us me thinks Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 But the astonishing thing about all this is that someone would actually pay more than £10 for this pile of shite. The absolute pits. Makes Wombat sound like a soul classic. 1) he can't sing in tune 2) the instruments are out of tune 3) it's f*cking awful Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 Hypothetical question: Suppose you were the original buyer and the item arrived cracked... and you'd only paid for standard insuance (£28 or howver much it is...) You then decide to re-sell item as perfect, get someone you know to send the price through the roof, then insure it to the hilt.... When it arrives at the other end, you have a claim against the Post Office insurance as it was 'perfect' when it went out.... Won't be this first time this trick has been pulled, or the last to be honest..... WOOF! link Brilliant. All it takes is one of seller's friends to bid well say a few thousand for good measure nothing too crazy then both could share the profit or the difference from the original price ?2272. Postal insurance fraud seems to easy to be true? Great and free advice to all the scam happy lurkers reading this. Tenyu Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 But the astonishing thing about all this is that someone would actually pay more than £10 for this pile of shite. The absolute pits. Makes Wombat sound like a soul classic. 1) he can't sing in tune 2) the instruments are out of tune 3) it's f*cking awful link Assumed that already from the first price tag but could anyone post audio to confirm? thanks, Tenyu Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 But the astonishing thing about all this is that someone would actually pay more than £10 for this pile of shite. The absolute pits. Makes Wombat sound like a soul classic. 1) he can't sing in tune 2) the instruments are out of tune 3) it's f*cking awful link Goodness me, we are agreeing again Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest dodger Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 But the astonishing thing about all this is that someone would actually pay more than £10 for this pile of shite. The absolute pits. Makes Wombat sound like a soul classic. 1) he can't sing in tune 2) the instruments are out of tune 3) it's f*cking awful link Couldn't agree more Pete, what a bag o'sh1te, never seen the attraction with this record. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
FrankM Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 And the copy he was selling was legit as it was my old one that he purchased during a heavy trade...so I am now also wondering if the new seller was and is in fact the buyer of my old copy...only Lee can tell us me thinks link I know who bought it and and he has not put it up for sale. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 hi all...i am groovesville.....alias...as keith williams so kindly pointed out,lee edwards..also known as dobber...hence the user name the dob....the george lemons on ebay is NOT mine,i have notified ebay,and the seller,my copy sold last week as you can clearly see,the person who bought it is made up with it,my copy is the one that was on offer for a week on here soul source,i am a geniune person,as well as a geniune seller,and collector,im sure there are plenty who will vouch for me....please take caution with this fucker who hasnt the imagination to make his own listing!!!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Petebangor Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Up to £365 now,is it still a scam?? Pete Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
vaultofsouler Posted April 19, 2005 Author Share Posted April 19, 2005 Up to £365 now,is it still a scam?? Pete link Not sure Pete.... that's why I asked in the first place.... still don't really know as answers don't relate to that.... I'd be interested to know because a mate of mine wants to "go for it" but isn't yet until he's sure.... in fact it was him that sent me the link to the "new sale" asking if kosher.... told him I'd try to find out and wouyld let him know.... Anybody know if kosher or a scam .... would love to think UK sellers haven't started doing things like a few in the US "a la Gene Toones" .... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest brianhorton Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Not sure Pete.... that's why I asked in the first place.... still don't really know as answers don't relate to that.... I'd be interested to know because a mate of mine wants to "go for it" but isn't yet until he's sure.... in fact it was him that sent me the link to the "new sale" asking if kosher.... told him I'd try to find out and wouyld let him know.... Anybody know if kosher or a scam .... would love to think UK sellers haven't started doing things like a few in the US "a la Gene Toones" .... link Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sweeney Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 But the astonishing thing about all this is that someone would actually pay more than £10 for this pile of shite. The absolute pits. Makes Wombat sound like a soul classic. 1) he can't sing in tune 2) the instruments are out of tune 3) it's f*cking awful link Are you aware of George Lemons' version of "It's An Uphill Climb To The Bottom"? Guaranteed to make you weep. But not in a good way! Genuinely one of the very worst recordings I've ever heard, but Fascinating Girl runs it a very close second. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
vaultofsouler Posted April 20, 2005 Author Share Posted April 20, 2005 Seems that people are asking the question direct about this one.... there's now a response of sorts on there.... SEE HERE.... plus postage now added of £19 .... Looks like somebody's not convinced with answer as their bid is now retracted.... personally, I'm "still on the fence" because piccies have been used before BUT to not write your own description, especially the grading, cause your "lazy".... mmmm.... Have sent following to be convinced .... ---------------- Dear minicarsandtoys, I see you've put an answer on the eBay page about having the record.... to borrow a piccy is one thing.... but to not write your own title, description and especially grading.... plus state about borrowing a piccy like other sellers do when done same.... this causes a lot of concern especially as page is identical to one recently legitimately sold.... search for item number 4717140302 under finished items in advanced search.... you'll see what I mean.... still personally not convinced mate and also see someone wasn't with their bid retraction.... usually a buyer I see from feedback but now first and only sale of a rare soul record, mmmm.... all dance/trance sales record wise previously.... awaiting a convincing reply.... ---------------- Will let you know of response .... if any .... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Marc Forrest Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Have sent following to be convinced .... ---------------- Dear minicarsandtoys, I see you've put an answer on the eBay page about having the record.... to borrow a piccy is one thing.... but to not write your own title, description and especially grading.... plus state about borrowing a piccy like other sellers do when done same.... this causes a lot of concern especially as page is identical to one recently legitimately sold.... search for item number 4717140302 under finished items in advanced search.... you'll see what I mean.... still personally not convinced mate and also see someone wasn't with their bid retraction.... usually a buyer I see from feedback but now first and only sale of a rare soul record, mmmm.... all dance/trance sales record wise previously.... awaiting a convincing reply.... ---------------- Will let you know of response .... if any .... link I don`t think you will get an answer as I already asked him days ago if it would be possible in case I win the record to pick it up at his place person to person....do I really need to tell you I got no response ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
vaultofsouler Posted April 20, 2005 Author Share Posted April 20, 2005 I don`t think you will get an answer as I already asked him days ago if it would be possible in case I win the record to pick it up at his place person to person....do I really need to tell you I got no response ? link Not really Marc.... probably to be expected.... or not expected .... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Dan Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 But the astonishing thing about all this is that someone would actually pay more than £10 for this pile of shite. The absolute pits. Makes Wombat sound like a soul classic. 1) he can't sing in tune 2) the instruments are out of tune 3) it's f*cking awful link totally agree pete overrated just like the springers 'nothings too good' which is as flat as paula radcliffe as well Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
MarkWhiteley Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 totally agree pete overrated just like the springers 'nothings too good' which is as flat as paula radcliffe as well link I like it, always have done Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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