Dave Moore

Bob, Where'd you hear that he 'hated' American Bandstand? He certainly had personal issues when the show was at it's peak with the Payola scandal etc but American Bandstand was the one thing he refused to divest himself of. Everything else went out of the window in order to retain his Bandstand position. That meant losing all the record labels, (Hunt, Swan etc), artist management, publishing companies (Clark-Corp), his financial interest in manufacture and distribution, (Jamie/Guyden), record stores, the whole shebang. I wouldn't have thought that was the action of someone who hated his own show/cash cow. His TV career was based wholly on his success with the American Bandstand brand. Without that show's success the remainder would probably not have happened for him. I'd be interested in any references that stated that he 'hated' Bandstand. Regards, Dave

Racist? After researching the man's life for 3 years it's not a word I've come across in relation to him. I've heard lots of other things but never that. Not about him personally anyway. Was it Bandstand related perchance? By PM if you prefer Mate. Regards, Dave

Where'd you get that from Chris? Proper question. Dave

Sold last one (Demo), albeit a couple of years ago for 180. (UKP) Regards, Dave

Chalky, No. We're talking about the Agfa tape that was used to record the takes in the studio. It was found a number of years ago, (along with others) in LA by a well known collector/dealer. If memory serves me correctly they came from the estate of a widowed sound engineer. The tape is 100% genuine. It was recently purchased by the OZ collector who has had a vinyl copy made from the tape and as Pete says, it's stereo version. I'm sure the OZ collector will confirm all this shortly. Regards, Dave

Thread locked by Topic Starter. Would ask again that if you lock a thread, please state that you have done so,(and why maybe), so that people are aware it is not the site that has locked them. Thanks , Dave

Lillie Bryant was half of the duo ,Billy and Lillie who first had songs released on Bernie Binnicks Philly based Swan Records and they were indeed from the NJ/NY area. According to Jerry Ross, The Showstoppers did indeed play UK on the back of the demand for ANBAH but their first tour was actually undertaken by a group that would go on to become The Persuaders. (Pointdexter Brothers?) I saw the Showstoppers at The Burnley Bank Hall Miners back in the late 70s and they were all teenagers! They did indeed have a girl in the line up.LOL! Of course by this stage The Showstoppers had been to UK to record for the Beacon label boss, Milton Samuel and had a fanbase of sorts. I can't remember but I think they may well have been English?!! The Showstoppers are not the same group as The Four Perfections although they do both contain sets of brothers. I've never heard of another Showstoppers on Party Time? I'd be interested in seeing a proper photo of that for sure. As Rick Cooper and Neil Rushton released said track on Inferno maybe they can shed some light on it's provenance? Regards, Dave Incidentally, in case folks don't know. "Ain't Nothing But A House Party" was written by Carl Fisher who will be leading his group The Vibrations to Prestatyn in March.

Here's one that every so called "Promoter/DJ" should own, written by the same guys. Most people will be surprised at just how much they DON'T know about DJing, the equipment, the techniques and the science of sound. The second half of the book is only really of intrest if your gonna be scratching, flicking, creating 'breaks' 'twiddlin' or God forbid ...'Scribbling!' But the first 1/3rd of the book and it's laymen's terminology about how to get the absolute most out of your rig is a must read and digest. Regards, Dave https://books.google....bs_similarbooks

You're gonna have to either contribute something or pass on by Mate. NO MORE CLOGGING UP THE THREAD WITH PLUGS FOR YOUR GIG. Thanks. Regards, Dave

Or......here's an alternative take..... MOST NS fans like music that's been crafted by musicians. Music that began as a series of sounds in someone's brain, then arranged, rehearsed, performed, rejigged, produced, mastered, and finally you end up with the final product. A lot of early disco was also created the same way. The Philly 70s stuff is fantastic. But you see, once the disco era exploded, a lot of it sounded like it was created from a fookin' automatic loop on a second hand Bontempi music maker. Had it all kept faith with the likes of Baker, Harris and Young's initial creativity then probably more 'music fans' would appreciate it now. On a personal basis, I like much of it, but it's still the singer/songwriter led stuff, that took real musicians to interpret it properly, that grabs me. Here's a disco record that I love. 60s meets the sweet sounding Mark Covington. Brilliant! Regards, Dave https://youtu.be/8zpexKAyflA

As this thread has developed somewhat, have moved it to Look In Your Box as it's felt it might have more contributions/legs in that forum. Regards, Dave

There's lots of provenance about the show series itself but has anyone ever heard of "The Pied Piper Special"? The company/site that control the shows copyright and lease material won't answer enquiries from 'fans' so I can't even get a yes or no fro them. Be great if this footage did exist. Regards, Dave

"Success has many Fathers, but failure is an orphan" - Luther Randolph (Harthon/Dynodynamics)

When asked about The Sweet Three on Decca : "It's like being a Jockey. You ride thousands of horses but you only really remember the winners!". - Jimmy "The Wiz" Wisner Regards, Dave

In Keith Rylatts book Groovesille USA, he mentions a Pied Piper Special on the locally produced 60s TV Show - Swinging Time". Has anyone ever seen the episode of this show in any format? It's supposed to have performances by The Metros, Cavaliers, Willie Kendricks, Michael and Raymond etc. Regards, Dave

Bob, Ashford and Simpson were in NY around that time. ('65) They were doing backups for Jerry Ross' set up. (Sunny, Apple Peaches pumpkin Pie etc). Shortly after this they would head to Motown and Ms Armstead made her way to your home town. It is a quandry about the provenance of the Deena Johnson 45 insomuch that Ms Armstead has claimed that it is indeed her. I think it first came out in an "In The Basement" interview. When she appeared at New York's Dig Deeper gig a few years ago I asked them to confirm with her and she did. One of the 'quandries' is that when she was with The Ikettes a few years before there was another girl with her named Delores Johnson. (Dee Dee). AND, to add to the confusion there are references that Delores Johnson was actually a lady called Flora Williams. Like you I'm not convinced. Mainly due to the credits on the 45. As you rightly state she's always been involved in her recording material in at least some capacity although maybe the Wild Deuce 45 was an early attempt to get a foot in the door? Regards Dave

He probably did it it himself! Regards, Dave

John, The way her scam was tagged was when the Pressing Plant wrote to Berry Gordys attorney asking if these orders were kosher. I an't remember the plant offhand but Barry Simpson has the original letter with BGs response, (to his lawyer), handwritten on it. He and I traced the provenance of the documentation that came out of the Donovan Building together last year, also....The Jamie/Guyden distributed Dionn label had an issue with this in the mid 60s along with a few others in the NE States. Bootlegging could quite easily sink a release depending on the route they took to market. Regards, Dave Ah, I see you've seen the Billboard reference to it. Should have read all the thread first.

I suppose it's all in the individual's interpretation eh? For me it's not the singer sounding like Dean Martin that is the attraction. It's the dramatic effect of using highs and lows, often using timpani, the chink of the rhythm guitar, it's a build up to a more aggressive chorus, and the often 'echoey' sound that gives an impression of space. Here's another that I've always loved. Could fall into loads of pigeon holes if you that were your want: Regards, Dave https://youtu.be/DWh3aHfaOm0

Can't they be both? Soul and a beat ballad? Here's one that I've always thought was great! Hey.......written by a white bloke, produced by two white blokes and even (god forbid), sung by a white bloke! Even published by the same company that had Paul Simon and that there soulful Neil Sedaka as clients! That should be more enough to get you steaming! Tin Pan Alley at it's best.... Regards, Dave

Great version of The Tymes early classic on Parkway. Regards, Dave https://youtu.be/Pz8C-zKPBZc

Humungous record. Always loved it. Used to play it amongst some others on Saturday afternoons at Hitsville. Glass of beer, whack it up loud, relax, kick back, and wait for the nodding looks of appreciation from the sun baked terrace. Happy days!! Regards, Dave

Beat me (and I bet loads of others!), to it. Regards, Dave

:lol: Here's another I kinda always got on with....he's never gonna be a Wilson Pickett or a James Brown more a better quality Tom Jones. This man could SING! and he could sing BIGTIME! Regards, Dave

Look forward to a review then Kev. Bev is hassling me for trip to NY, the last time we were there I dragged her round Trenton and Newark looking for Joe Evan's old house! So, this may be the answer, plus if I can time it with a visit to Dig Deeper, all the better! Regards, Dave