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Why ? Because it's not 'authentic'. Bootlegs exist in California as well ! It is possible off course. Go to hell with your Anderson Brothers bootleg. You never showed a picture of the record naked (styrene proof) nor provide the recording of the MONO side. Glad that you have good feedbacks but that doesn't give you the authority to disregard people's advice with much more experience than you. And who unlike you have no interest in ripping off people. We jealous of you ? No way. Hate people who pollute the record business, yes we do. Rightfully so.

Here you go ; read and learn.

Good plot theory but no, it's not the same copy as the one that sold in December is a real one and the spot is not really identical.

Oh sorry, I meant Tom the guy fom the eBay store auctioning the bootleg of the Anderson Brothers that ended up at $3.250...

OK. Thank you for sharing that. Apparently many have "warned" him... But how many have actually reported it to the eBay ? FWIW that Tom guy PM replies came from a Germany established account and the eBay "shop" location indicates Spain... ? For the rest that eBay store is indeed established with good scores for a long time now. So what'z really going'on there ?

Only taking a chance I believe. He replied to me after reading me on here that he would refund the winner IF HE CAN PROVE that it's a bootleg... What a piss arrogant seller attitude is that ? His item description claims that it's the real deal without providing any proof of it (far from it showing a styrene claiming it's a vinyl) and then he begs to differ if the winner can prove him that it's not the real deal !

Four day days ago it was still under $800 while I first tried to contact the seller pointing him out in the right directions. Telling him that maybe he was mislead by what ever info he maybe had. Offering him to read what people on here had to teach him. I am a NICE person 😃 Asking him specific checks that will improve his highest bidder item attestation of pedigree with photos of the matrixes, sound clip of the MONO side... Like I hide nothing and show it all kinda attitude. But he ignore all of that and insisted on the seriousness of his business vigorously 🤑 The last real copy offered on eBay few weeks ago fetched $2.000+. This one will have fail to be held-up by eBay. To report the fraud item did nothing and their 'consumer service' is numb. The 'community' advised me to report the item... The LooP ! And apologies for poor eBay who had millions of items to process... Oh well, in the end both the seller and eBay will cash in on this fraudulent auction and one big looser might find out one day that he was ripped-off by more than one person. In the meantime ; The 'Alpha' : many will take that auction for reference. The 'Omega' : lots of those bootlegs will be passed on as the real thing for a long while.

The seller replied to me again. But he sticks to his claim. Reputated seller for 20 years... Find my post on here not serious on my behalf. Willing to refund the winner if he can prove that this copy is not an original... I let anyone sort that one out...

The real 'MONO' side plays really another mastering job that I blieve none of the bootlegs play.

The 'MONO' flip mp3 I believe should be a revealer too...

The opiniated (understandingily in defen$e) seller late response over his Anderson Brothers copy auctioned ; Hello Tim, thanks for your message. Styrene has very glossy and shiny grooves and it’s unbendable. On our copy this isn’t the case so that’s vinyl. This came from an old radio station collection so it’s impossible to be a bootleg or any recent repress. Like you said there are many odd and different pressings of this but that’s a 70s original. Regards Tom/Freestylemaniac-Records One copy next to another tells it all ; left his - right mine (the right one !) My reply to him + with the image ; OK Tom, thanks for a first reply. Now I do know and love both my styrenes and my vinyls. Can you give us pictures of both sides the record naked then ? With the matrix clearly visible please. Then a sample of the "MONO" flip as well. Coming from a radio... You are telling me all radio stations only had originals and no bootlegs ? Although I must admit that I know that is just not always the case. Nothing in disrespect to you but understand this is no trivial record... Tim

It is a styrene bootleg. Even the sound clip is muffled some like any bootleg out there. I can't say better because I never had a bootleg of them to listen to, but even on close up the label' bubbles an the smear on the print indicate a styrene pressing and so a bootleg. Up to now the seller didn't bother to reply to my PM. The eVilBay report I did remains "in the air" somewhere and another query with the eVilBay's (again) customer service is also still unanswered to this hour. Makes me wonder if any will comply and lose on the 'JackPot'...

Now without any seller's answer reported to the eVilBay as a "bootleg'; this is a styrene copy and the original is vinyl !!! Likely he will react by now.

Now how many hours shall I let pass by before I report to the eVillBay this fraudulous auction?

Have contacted the seller before taking further actions on this auction about this Anderson Brothers copy but what are you thoughts on it as I believe just by the looks of it that this is a bootleg (styrene) in disguise with a company sleeve... https://www.ebay.com/itm/373559053445?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

And you're right. My memory (subjective) of this record got me wrong (objective) and my haste into the Velvet Jimmies lead me into a false assumption. At the first notes my ear memory got the notion that back then I couldn't get my head around this pop novelty number stuck between Wilson Pickett and Gino Washington. Yes he's black. Your whole Sanders, Mack & Bateman involvement makes lot of sense evidently as I was thinking exactly the same while checking the Correc-Tone credentials all over again. Only I forgot to check YT for the sound trial of both sides. Both other Jimmy Velvit & -et are evidently white dudes. Corrections will be addressed to discogs and 45cat. And so maybe James Velvet is actually James Ellis ex leader of the Satintones ... My apologies to you but mostly thank you for the correction while shedding another light on the oddest record from that little record stable that is so dear to many out there. No matter if one still don't like the record, the truth has been served ; James Velvet is black !

Had the James Velvet on Correc-Tone long ago and he sounded 'white' for what is altogether a very 'poppy' record. And he is 'white'. This Jimmy 'Tennants' Velvet is often confused with another Jimmy 'Mullins' Velvit ! Mullins had also 2 singles on Cub as well. Not helping in the confusion ! Mullins had Cub K9100 & Cub K9105 and Tennants Cub K9111 for his re-release of his Correc-Tone single. But no member of the Satintones here 😉 Same here. That double sider of Gino Washington on Correct-Tone does not sounds like it features the Supremes on backing vocals. Although I also heard 'rumors'... And those Primettes on Enrica never neither.

FWIW 1962 is the year. Where they then "moonlighting" while not being a Tamla number one act yet... Naughty girls. I still prefer them Supremes that way. Then the same goes for the following Correc-tone 'pop' tune of James Velvet 'bouquet of flowers' that is also collected by completists Supremes's fans.

The 'stop' sounds the same to the 45 release. As for the unknown title 'we never got together'... I can't say nor find anything on a quick search. What does it sound like ?

I thought of asking someone who is still on contact with him... Now I must 😉 Will report on it.

The all white (promo only) Atac was distributed by R.P.R. (Los Angeles) who had national distribution connections. It came out in August 1969 together with Jimmy McFarland 'lonely lover' on R.P.R. ! The Mala being from November 1968 it came out prior that Atac R.P.R. release. That leaves the local Atac (Gino's Detroit own) in question as to it's date of release. Before or after Mala zat is ze kwestion !

Thought about that. Yes now that you point out the fact that the Mala copie are not to be found in the Detroit area could indeed indicate that it was first pressed on Atac. There with enough local air-play it could then haven been picked-up my Mala with a closure in the deal for Gino to keep local exclusivity in sales, distribution and promotion. What triggered that little quest/querry of mine was the difference in the masterings first an mixes after. Owning a Detroit Atac for long enough I got accustom to it's sound. Then got a Mala copy to sell on for a friend and got blown away by the sound difference. Especially on the 'I'll be around' side. That clearly indicate a reel/tape mastering job. But that on it's own doesn't imply much. The last R.P.R. release seem to aim for a last chance to HIT higher allowing me to believe that Gino expected more from the Mala deal. Taking me back to my theory that the Mala was first. Gino deception in that venture outcome re-release it on his own to be picked up a second time around as 'Wheelsville1' corroborate.

From my experience there is about 2 blue stocker for 3 yellow promo Mala floating around. Almost an even "rarity" ratio for that national distributed Mala release. As for the later R.P.R. Atac release a stocker is yet to be found if ever it exists. The local Detroit Atac is the harder issue to come by in real clean condition... Ain't that saying a something ?

Top tune in my ever top ten... dance to it if you dig it. Rare 'soul' is that ! The uncanny. The rest is a trend, a fashion, Carnaby street or what ever ! Not a scene. Never that...

Another fantastic tune by Wendy indeed. Maybe a "first" issue as such if ever, but certainly an alternate release from another pressing plant with 'after laughter' featured as the 'B' side !!! Not a first 'trial and tribulation' from this fantastic record stable... Where a 'B' side becomes an 'A' side. If truly a first press the radios must have gone noticeably for this 'B' side. This very pressing with 'she's moving away' I believe to be from the PL (Plastic) pressing plant where the other vinyl (promo & stock) from SP (Speciality) and finally the styrene (promo & stock) from MO (Monarch).